Does noone here realize Pavlik is 6'3 and AA is 5'9?

Pavlik-AA, **** the height, just make the fight. :boxing:

man, hagler was 5'9" and hearns was 6'1"... pacquiao was 5'6" and jorge solis and oscar de la hoya was 5'10" floyd jr was 5'8" and corrales was 6'1" its not all about size man... there is technique, speed and chin... Arthur Abraham's name belongs nowhere near Hagler's, Paquiao's, or Floyd's. There's a difference between all time greats and a guy who a couple fans think is pretty good.

Funny I just posted in another thread that even though I have it a close call fight I edge it towards Pavlik for height,reach, and style. AA hits a bit harder but ina hook. Pavlik fights tall as usual. Stays on the outside. Turning the jab over into a slight hook every no and then. AA's chance is to catch Pavlik pulling out. Definately want this fight becuase all other in the MW division are useless.

Yeah thats exactly why he is the bigger man. You just proved ur self wrong bro. If u have seen these fights live u can tell who is the bigger man b hop is the bigger man no doubt..p will has a way bigger reach and height advantage then aa but aa is the bigger fighter...Think about it was hearns bigger then tyson? A 10 pound difference is not that big of a difference, while Pavlik even said the weight fit him comfortably. 2 fights prior, Pavlik fought at 164. That's only 6 pounds difference. Add another 0 onto that 6 and that's Hearns vs Tyson comparison. That argument is stupid because it's a DRASTIC weight advantage. Not a small one like Pavlik-Hopkins. Hopkins fought at Middleweight for about 15 years. I'd like to see Pavlik when he's 43 make 160. He can't. Hopkins always stayed in shape and was a natural middleweight. He didn't have to lose 15 or so pounds like Pavlik did going into camp because he was always in shape. Pavlik is taller then him. He has bigger arms then him. http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2008-w31/img.285427_t.jpg http://blogs.trb.com/sports/boxing/blog/hopkins-pavlik.jpg They are pretty close to the same size, but Pavlik is bigger.

What amazing insight...

mmm....pavlik is 6'2'' and abraham is 5'10'' Abraham is 5'9. He will have to punch upward to hit Kelly, that is always a significant disadvantage. He will have to pursue and get inside on Kelly. This is not how AA fights, he usually remains in his turtle shell most of the fight and then goes off in spurts. Kelly will jab him to death.

Yeah thats exactly why he is the bigger man. You just proved ur self wrong bro. If u have seen these fights live u can tell who is the bigger man b hop is the bigger man no doubt..p will has a way bigger reach and height advantage then aa but aa is the bigger fighter...Think about it was hearns bigger then tyson? BHop is more muscular and built. He was damn near the same height as kelly.

Well, Pavlik hasn't ever been KOed. So that would be quite an accomplishment for Arthur Abraham and his Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle super turtle defense.

mmm....pavlik is 6'2'' and abraham is 5'10 1/2''

How is Hopkins the naturally bigger man? Because he's had 4 fights (or 5 if you count the one in 1988) at 175 (2 at 170)? Pavlik has the bigger reach advantage and is taller then Hopkins. Yeah thats exactly why he is the bigger man. You just proved ur self wrong bro. If u have seen these fights live u can tell who is the bigger man b hop is the bigger man no doubt..p will has a way bigger reach and height advantage then aa but aa is the bigger fighter...Think about it was hearns bigger then tyson?

How is Hopkins the naturally bigger man? Because he's had 4 fights (or 5 if you count the one in 1988) at 175 (2 at 170)? Pavlik has the bigger reach advantage and is taller then Hopkins.

height doesnt always determine the outcome though. this is not a diss but i see most people say no one like noone on the net. where did people get that from? its no one. not noone. thats just funny to me.

Your right. By ur point valuev would of ko'd rocky marciano because of the height diffrence