Mike Tyson and Roy Jones don't like to fight (please read before reply)

Ask Razor Rudduck if Tyson liked to fight or not. He is probably still in hospital!

Some of this is accurate, some of it not. I kind of get what you are trying to say. Here is my take: Tyson: He never really had a fight he was loosing and digged down deep and pulled out a win. Not an Ali-Frazier type fight or a SRL-Hearns type fight. Ive noticed a lot of people rate him very high in head to head hypothetical matchups. For example Ive seen a lot of people pick him against Ali, Lennox, just about anybody. But with Ali, weve seen him dig deep and even past his prime pull out some amazing performances, thats why I wouldnt pick Tyson over Ali or Foreman or alot of other guys head to head. He hasnt shown much heart, but he has shown a pretty decent chin. It always took a pretty lot to put him down. RJJ: In his prime, RJJ rarely lost any rounds. He was so above all his competition that he could literally toy with the likes of James Toney. I know what you are saying when you hint that he was afraid of inflicting too much harm on his opponents. Ive heard people say that he was effected mentally by the aftermath of the Benn-Mcclellan fight and after that lost some of his ferociousness in the ring as he didnt want to be responsible for a similar tragedy. Dont know if its true or not cause I wasnt following the sport at the time but thats what Ive always heard. On another note I think the Hops-RJJ fight is misrepresented sometimes. Hops was competitive and won about 4 rounds, that is actually quite an accomplishment in itself when you consider how dominate RJJ was in the mid to late 90s. It was a competitive fight and not the beat down people make it out to be. Hops was never in trouble or anything but he couldnt deal with RJJs speed, RJJ was too hard to hit. I agree with you on 95%. Tyson used to get up and Jog 5 miles every day. He trained year around. He trained more than anyone, even Bernard. He used to have incredible indurance, speed and reflexes because he was so deadicated. He started partying and stopped training before the buster douglas fight and he lost. Then he went to jail and he never trained when he got out and he wasn't the same fighter. I feel prime Tyson would make short work of just about everyone except prime Ali. Again I feel Jail took alot from Ali as well. Right on with Roy. Bernard was competitive winning 4 rounds which was absolutely incredible against Roy Jones since he never did loose rounds. And in the end you are right. He couldn't deal with that speed. At that point in Bernard's career he was dominating his opponents and he couldn't be stopped or hurt, and only that cat like quickness that is 1 in 5 billiion could have beaten bernard. At 160 Roy was the only person to beat Bernard until he lost again when he turned 40. I attribut Roy's Losses to his 35 year old body failing him finally. No fighter has ever dominated boxing for as strong or as long as Roy Jones did.

This thread Topic reminds me a LOT of Floyd Mayweather Jr.. Just saying is all.. Details.......

This thread Topic reminds me a LOT of Floyd Mayweather Jr.. Just saying is all..

Some of this is accurate, some of it not. I kind of get what you are trying to say. Here is my take: Tyson: He never really had a fight he was loosing and digged down deep and pulled out a win. Not an Ali-Frazier type fight or a SRL-Hearns type fight. Ive noticed a lot of people rate him very high in head to head hypothetical matchups. For example Ive seen a lot of people pick him against Ali, Lennox, just about anybody. But with Ali, weve seen him dig deep and even past his prime pull out some amazing performances, thats why I wouldnt pick Tyson over Ali or Foreman or alot of other guys head to head. He hasnt shown much heart, but he has shown a pretty decent chin. It always took a pretty lot to put him down. RJJ: In his prime, RJJ rarely lost any rounds. He was so above all his competition that he could literally toy with the likes of James Toney. I know what you are saying when you hint that he was afraid of inflicting too much harm on his opponents. Ive heard people say that he was effected mentally by the aftermath of the Benn-Mcclellan fight and after that lost some of his ferociousness in the ring as he didnt want to be responsible for a similar tragedy. Dont know if its true or not cause I wasnt following the sport at the time but thats what Ive always heard. On another note I think the Hops-RJJ fight is misrepresented sometimes. Hops was competitive and won about 4 rounds, that is actually quite an accomplishment in itself when you consider how dominate RJJ was in the mid to late 90s. It was a competitive fight and not the beat down people make it out to be. Hops was never in trouble or anything but he couldnt deal with RJJs speed, RJJ was too hard to hit.

This is a crock, both Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr Are boxers, Boxers: Are fighters. They may not have liked to street fight or bar brawl but who really does, (psychos), Theyd still beat ya ass on the street. Shit tyson was beating up old ladys at 12 thats a good advesary for a lil boy! In the ring these dudes are two of the best period, they where fearless and whatever there method of savagier was they both won over 50 FIGHTS, FIght(s): Fighting, Brawling, Punching, Injuring... Whether Tyson itimidatated or ****ign scared you he still beat your ass, and Whether Roy Played ball went to the batting cage or was rapping he made you look bad! Both are great fighter and lov to fight! Calm down fish, no reason to get upset. No need to give us a loundry list of their accomplishments in the ring either, we all know they won 50 fights. Nobody is questioning their greatness individually, they both are great in their own right. Still I can talk about the flaws in their game can I?

This is a crock, both Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr Are boxers, Boxers: Are fighters. They may not have liked to street fight or bar brawl but who really does, (psychos), Theyd still beat ya ass on the street. Shit tyson was beating up old ladys at 12 thats a good advesary for a lil boy! In the ring these dudes are two of the best period, they where fearless and whatever there method of savagier was they both won over 50 FIGHTS, FIght(s): Fighting, Brawling, Punching, Injuring... Whether Tyson itimidatated or ****ign scared you he still beat your ass, and Whether Roy Played ball went to the batting cage or was rapping he made you look bad! Both are great fighter and lov to fight!

Good post. I don't understand how you are red? You're a good poster.

Yea he was furious his punching bags quit on him so he can't beat them up any longer, not because they weren't willing to put up a fight. Golota being the perfect example. Put up some resistance against Iron mike and you'll see those puppy dogg eye look on his face like against Lewis that he is getting ready to quit. Tell me Tyson would've ever made it through a two-way war like Tua/Beabuchi or Brewster/Lyakovich etc,. Well he did against Razor. Golota was in the fight he had a good second round

Nah man a young Hungry Tyson LOVED a tear up!!! U could tell sometimes he was almost disapointed the fights were over , when Golota bailed how ****in furious was tyson, the fight was just heating up! Yea he was furious his punching bags quit on him so he can't beat them up any longer, not because they weren't willing to put up a fight. Golota being the perfect example. Put up some resistance against Iron mike and you'll see those puppy dogg eye look on his face like against Lewis that he is getting ready to quit. Tell me Tyson would've ever made it through a two-way war like Tua/Beabuchi or Brewster/Lyakovich etc,. With all his abilities, he was a bully who likes to pray on the weak, the old lady muggin example tells it all.

Nah man a young Hungry Tyson LOVED a tear up!!! U could tell sometimes he was almost disapointed the fights were over , Tyson recalls on his Wars with Razor Ruddock as some of his favourite memorys along with the first loss to Evander and even later when Golota bailed how ****in furious was tyson, the fight was just heating up!

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this has all been said before so what else is new.

Makes some sense. Tyson's biggest weakness was his ability to deal wit an opponent's mental toughness. If they weren't overpowered, he he had a problem. At the end of his career, Roy showed he was cautious all the time cuz his chin can be cracked. And **** them crazyass clowns who talk shit and show out at the bar. From my experience, those guys are pussies who have a defense mechanism of talkin and actin hard. It's the eerie, calm, quiet cats who sit alone and sink their drinks without sayin shit that turn out to be bad motha****as. Mangler, I just gave that as an example, there are countless other things I could've used to say that Tyson isn't that tough. I know what you're talking about but I was more referring to the guy who is sitting quitely but somebody is bothering him or trying to bully him and he breaks out in rage and tells the bully and his buddies that he will fight all of them. That kind of guy.

100% true? I dont need to explain how wrong you are so il let other people do it for me. You certainly are entitled to your opinion. I wrote a long thread and am gonna leave it at that. I'm not ready for a counltess back and forth so you might as well say what you disagree with and we leave it at that. I don't plan on making this a sucessfull 200 replies thread.

Mike Tyson loves beating up people but he doesn't like to fight, two entirely different things. As long as everything is going his way and he has his opponent already scared before he gets in the ring with or he is beating him up. But put up some resistance and Iron Mike cracks. It goes all the way back to his days of muggin old ladies in the streets. He likes a helpless victim. There are averege Joe's in in bars out there who are mentally more tougher then Tyson is and who really love a fight. The type of guy who smashes a beer bottle over his own head and says common, "i'll fight all 5 of you guys", and he does, gets ass kicked but still walks out of the bar with a smile on his face. You would think Tyson is that guy with all his crazy antics but he is not. As far as Roy Jones, with him it's a bit different then Tyson. Roy doesn't even like to beat up people, he just likes making them look bad. Roy likes to think of himself as a performer, not a fighter. He loves to go out and showboat for the fans to show them how easy it is. Like a musician goes out on stage solo and performs in front of the audience. This is the one thing that has held him back from truely measuring up with the Leonard's and the Ali's. See these guys had the Fraziers and the Hearn's to make them even greater. Roy could've had this with Hopkins but he never capitalized on it. See in King Roy's world it doesn't matter who the other fighter is in the ring, it's all about him. In his mind, his name should be written BIG on the fight poster while the opponent name is written small in the background. He never understood the concept of having a big fight/big event like The Fight of the Century in 1970 with Ali/Frazier where both fighters are equally big. He just rather be the fighter of the century with all the sanctioning body belts, playing basketball in the morning and kicking some opponents ass in the afternoon to show all of us how easy it is to him. Psychologically, Roy is a Rap Artist in his mind. If his father hadn't dragged him into the gym as a boy, he would've become what his three sons are now, a musician. Good analogy. There is a lot of truth here, although i think both had some tough tests on the way up, both slacked off once they got to the top.

Makes some sense. Tyson's biggest weakness was his ability to deal wit an opponent's mental toughness. If they weren't overpowered, he he had a problem. At the end of his career, Roy showed he was cautious all the time cuz his chin can be cracked. And **** them crazyass clowns who talk shit and show out at the bar. From my experience, those guys are pussies who have a defense mechanism of talkin and actin hard. It's the eerie, calm, quiet cats who sit alone and sink their drinks without sayin shit that turn out to be bad motha****as.

100% true? I dont need to explain how wrong you are so il let other people do it for me. Ask Razor Rudduck if Tyson liked to fight or not.

100 percent true...lmao at the guy breaking a bottle on his own head..dats a st8 up mma fighter For some reason I just thought about this and I felt like typing up a long rant like thread that not many people would read. I feel better now.

100% true? I dont need to explain how wrong you are so il let other people do it for me.