Shouldn't Calzaque be considered a better fighter than mayweather?

A lot of people consider mayweather a better fighter still. I dont get it, calzaque faced better fighters than mayweather did, he has more wins and knockouts. Mayweather milked his career, im not saying he is a bad fighter, but I dont think he did enough to consider himself a all time great. Who do you guys consider better? Joe did not come close to facing the level of comp Floyd did, and Floyd did it over 5 different weight classes. Floyd by far.

P4P Mayweather would tap that ass for 12, long and funny, rounds. Boxing skill wise, those two need never again be mentioned in the same sentence. Floyd will ALWAYS be > Calzaghe.

there aint any1 out there that could beat Calzaghe or any1 worth fighting, i think Mayweather has plenty he could fight and could go either way.

this is laughable...calzaghe has only stepped up to the very elite once in his career and that was against a 43 year old bernard hopkins. and imo, did not do shit and lost that fight and some of his slapping looked so ****ing sloppy and at times looked amateurish. bhop maade him look really bad. his win over roy jones? give me a ****ing break. jones has been ko'd and domianted by BOTH glen johnson and tarver years before calzaghe beat him. mayweather is just better than calzaghe in EVERY way possible.

Compare Calzaghe to Tarver or something, dont make a fool of yourself comparing him to Mayweather

this is one of the worst threads I've ever seen. how can you even begin to compare Joe Calzaghe to Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather's resume destroys Joe's, Mayweather is twice as skilled as Joe, I mean it is a complete joke to even attempt to draw comparisons

Floyd'd resume: 1 Corrales - B+ level fighter, not an elite fighter 2 JLC - tough fighter, but never really elite, defeated Floyd in their first fight 3 Oscar - OLD, well past prime 4 Hatton - past his best because he faded in the later rounds (declined after Tszyu) Floyd had referee's help 5 Genaro Hernadez - had been great in the early 90s, but a shot OLD fighter, his last fight 6 Zab - very limited fighter 7 Jesus Chavez - record of 1-13 when he fought Floyd http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=4761&cat=boxer 8 Carlos Hernadez - good but not an elite fighter 9 Baldomir - limited and old, not a strong puncher 10 Gatti - shot OLD fighter 11 Manfready - good but not world-class level fighter 12 DeMarcus Corley - decent but not world-class level fighter 13 Gregario Vargas - limited opponent 14 Philip N'Dou - very limited opponent 15 Sharmba Mitchell - Tszyu handled him more easily TWICE, stopped a year younger version of Mitchell in the 3rd :rofl::rofl: this guy sucks... even if floyd beats marg/cotto/williams youll still have excuses. "oh MARGARITO is a very limited fighter. hes 1 dimensional. hes just tall and big welterweight. he has no skills at all" "oh williams is overrated. hes too sloppy for floyd. (remember he got exposed by a C fighter quintana" "cotto has been down before and hes got lots of flaws. he shouldnt have fought floyd" "clottey has been beat before. what makes you think floyd wont outbox him?" oh my.. it wont end..

Mayweather's Sparring Partners> Calzaghe's Sparring Partners Mayweather's Dad > Calzaghe's dad Mayweather's House > Calzaghe's House The guy that serves Mayweather at Mc Donald's > Guy who serves Calzaghe Mc Donalds. lol.... funniest shit ive read all day!

Mayweather's best opponents > Calzaghe's best opponents Mayweather's average opponents > Calzaghe's average opponents Mayweather's bum opponents > Calzaghe's bum opponents. case closed. Mayweather's Sparring Partners> Calzaghe's Sparring Partners Mayweather's Dad > Calzaghe's dad Mayweather's House > Calzaghe's House The guy that serves Mayweather at Mc Donald's > Guy who serves Calzaghe Mc Donalds.

A lot of people consider mayweather a better fighter still. I dont get it, calzaque faced better fighters than mayweather did, he has more wins and knockouts. Mayweather milked his career, im not saying he is a bad fighter, but I dont think he did enough to consider himself a all time great. Who do you guys consider better? Mayweather's best opponents > Calzaghe's best opponents Mayweather's average opponents > Calzaghe's average opponents Mayweather's bum opponents > Calzaghe's bum opponents. case closed.

A lot of people consider mayweather a better fighter still. I dont get it, calzaque faced better fighters than mayweather did, I stopped reading here. Is this a cry for help or summin?

When did Cotto mention Floyd?? Kellerman and Merchant both tried to pry Floyd's name from that dick-caddy Cotto calls a mouth..to no avail. Sure he talked plenty shi*t about fighting Floyd on latino TV shows and magazines..but on the big stage..in front of MILLIONS...HE NUTTED-UP. "I fights who my peoples tells me to fights.." That doesn't sound like a confident fighter to me. ^^^^FLAWLESS!! :smileysex

Well, first of all, you spelled his name "Calzaque," so are you even really a fan or is this a thread just to start some sh*t? Why aren't Calzaghe fans satisfied with the props (some could argue "hype") he gets already? No, it ain't enough. Now he has to be better than Mayweather. On what planet? Mars? I don't like either fighter, but it's obvious Mayweather is better. And skin color has nothing to do with it. Reality does.

You have stirred up all the self-hating white guys and the black supremacists by suggesting Calzaghe has done more than Mayweather, even though you're RIGHT, he has! :lol1: Joe has faced better opposition. Yes, Joe did face the past-prime Roy Jones, but Floyd's resume is full of shot fighters like Genaro Hernandez and Oscar De La Hoya. And Floyd fought them in his 20s, not at age 37 when Joe fought Roy. Joe fought some hand-picked opponents it's true, but Mayweather's resume has people like Jesus Chavez (1-13)! :rofl: The fact that you don't even know who Jesus Chavez is, means you lost every ounce of credibility in this post. Nice try, though.

both are oustanding fighters, oustanding boxers and both very clever, both have left the game after very long careers undefeated and both have not a scar on there faces, its quite unbelievable, most in this sport are lucky to walk away without having brain damage/slurred speech so i feel both could be placed on a even level for slightly diffrent reasons, calzaghe is much more aggressive both are cunning, joe hasnt won titles at as many diffrent levels and couldnt have realy, Mayweather had the advantage of been american which is a huge advantage in boxing, joe had more fights and regardless of what the pricks on here say were very tough fights, i applaud both these guys for here achivments but i dont like mayweathers attitude outside the ring but he brings alot to the sport in terms of entertainment. awww didn't realize boxing was a soap opera where we judge fighters based on how nice they are to everybody. you queer

A lot of people consider mayweather a better fighter still. I dont get it, calzaque faced better fighters than mayweather did, he has more wins and knockouts. Mayweather milked his career, im not saying he is a bad fighter, but I dont think he did enough to consider himself a all time great. Who do you guys consider better? HAHAHAHAHAHAH yeah ****ing right

both are oustanding fighters, oustanding boxers and both very clever, both have left the game after very long careers undefeated and both have not a scar on there faces, its quite unbelievable, most in this sport are lucky to walk away without having brain damage/slurred speech so i feel both could be placed on a even level for slightly diffrent reasons, calzaghe is much more aggressive both are cunning, joe hasnt won titles at as many diffrent levels and couldnt have realy, Mayweather had the advantage of been american which is a huge advantage in boxing, joe had more fights and regardless of what the pricks on here say were very tough fights, i applaud both these guys for here achivments but i dont like mayweathers attitude outside the ring but he brings alot to the sport in terms of entertainment.

while there may be parallels and while they're both very talented imo mayweather beats jc both in talent and in record. They both should have faced better but money became more careful in his opponents and more defensive as he went up in weight. whats jc's excuse?! Indeed. I think the same, but I think anyone that has either guy way in front or believes that one is that much better than the other is plain wrong. Anyone saying that Mayweather ducked everyone is foolish and not looking at who he did fight and anyone that thinks Calzonie never faced anyone worth mention also only need to look at his record and see that he faced just about the same amount of champions as Mayweather, and possibly more that were in their prime, but, Mayweather moved up more divisions which is also a big thing in his favor, though this last thing is becoming more and more common these days and meaning less and less due to the amount of champions that one can pick and choose to face therefore becoming a 'champion' in another division while never actually facing the 'champion'. :lol1:

while there may be parallels and while they're both very talented imo mayweather beats jc both in talent and in record. They both should have faced better but money became more careful in his opponents and more defensive as he went up in weight. whats jc's excuse?! when people said pbf lost to castillo he re-matched him. when jc was told the same thing with reid he didnt fight him a second time to prove himself. but he did fight Mario Veit 2x a guy he ko'd in the first round 1st time around. to me thats indicative of his whole career.

Tunney do you even know who Jesus Chavez is? He's thinking of the Jesus Chavez that Mayweather fought at the start of his career, not 'El Matador' Chavez who was a top contender in the 130 pound division and was a one time holder of the WBC SFW title and also one time holder of the IBF lightweight title. Tunney, you got the wrong guy mate. Chavez is a pretty good fighter, and while he may not be great, he is as good as a lot of the guys on Calzaghe's record. I think the problem here is that fans of both guys are exaggerating each guys record. Neither fighter has an amazing stellar record. I think Calzaghe ended facing the better fighter overall in Hopkins, who is the best fighter Calzonie ever faced and Mayweather never faced someone like Hopkins. But, Mayweather faced more generally good opposition and also moved up more weight classes. Some of his wins, like Manfredy, N'Dou, Gerena, Juuko, Sosa, etc etc get too much credit, but then the guys like Castillo, Corrales, Hatton, Oscar at 154 were very good wins. In the same light, some of Calzaghe's wins get somewhat underrated, like Eubank which was a very good win. So, I think when people list fifteen guys from Mayweather's record a lot of guys such as the Manfredy's, Sosa's, Chavez' and N'Dou's get mentioned too much (the aforementioned fighters on Mayweather's record have never won a title), and given too much credit while titlists and good champions on Calzaghe's record, such as Brewer, Mitchell, Woodhall, Reid, Veit, and yes, even Juan Carlos Ferrerya (the guy has fought literally everyone and only lost to the best and has been a top contender for a long time across a number of divisions. He would be hard to beat for anyone) don't get mentioned at all or are simply laughed at when they are mentioned. While I think Mayweather has a better record and has a more consistent record, it is not completely daft to compare them. Check this out: Mayweather titlists: G. Hernandez (last ever fight) Castillo Corrales Oscar (old) Hatton Mitchell (old) Judah (?) Baldomir Gatti (shot) Corley C. Hernandez Chavez Schmoe Calzaghe titlsts: Eubank (past it) Reid Woodhall Veit Brewer Mitchell Lacy Kessler Hopkins (old but still amazing) Jones (old) So they really are somewhat comparable. While some will no doubt say that none of those guys have ever been heard of in relation to the titlists on Calzaghe's record, they were nonetheless good fighters and good champions who defended their titles a number of times. This does not include the many guys like Juan Carlos that fought everyone from Roy Jones to Roberto Duran or other guys like Bika who are now going pretty strong in the SMW division. There are a number of guys on Floyd's record that won their title and lost it immediately after. Chavez, Hernandez, Corley etc. Nonetheless, they did win a title and so deserve mention in there. There we go then. When looked at without preconceived ideas they are actually rather comparable in the titlists they faced. Either way, both faced a number of good champions and both faced a number of past prime champions. One thing that will always get Calzaghe close to Mayweather, for me anyway, is that he faced a genuinely legendary fighter that is still more or less in his prime (no matter his age, Hopkins is still fighting nearly as well as ever) while Mayweather unfortunately never did. Nonetheless, it is not such a far gone conclusion to compare their records, nor to debate how close they are in such a comparison. When looked at like this, they are actually quite close.