The offical "I don't have an excuse but... thread. (Not butt.hehe)

Umm Nazim wasn't the only one who saw buddy. it was all a fuken cheap tactic by nazim. You will see tuesday it was nothing.

No, because Shane saw what Miguel did right and what he did wrong against Margarito, allowing him and his team to come up with an effective gameplan. :smashfrea effective gameplan = check that MFers wraps!

that's pretty dumb if your going to argue about something at least argue about something that's factual. Nazim did the same shit to tito trinidad. All fuken accusations. Umm Nazim wasn't the only one who saw buddy.

Of course he wasn't the same that night, he got caught red handed cheating just before the bout. Shane still fought him with much respect though and pretended their wasn't an issue when he was clinching and kept a healthy fear of staying away from the ropes. Mosley did say Margarito dealt painful bodyshots, so even if he's a cheater we see he uses plaster as an enhancement. that's pretty dumb if your going to argue about something at least argue about something that's factual. Nazim did the same shit to tito trinidad. All fuken accusations.

Well it's really not fair to give cotto any credit for mosley's win. Mosley is the guy that went in there and did what he did. All im saying is margarito wasn't the same that night. Of course he wasn't the same that night, he got caught red handed cheating just before the bout. Shane still fought him with much respect though and pretended their wasn't an issue when he was clinching and kept a healthy fear of staying away from the ropes. Mosley did say Margarito dealt painful bodyshots, so even if he's a cheater we see he uses plaster as an enhancement.

Listen, all of that is besides the point even if I disagree and think Cotto was just saying that. Mosley learned more from what Cotto didn't do and his own background fighting Mexican fighters is what brought him to the dance. I'd give Cotto half the credit for Shane's victory if Shane instead of pressuring, body punching, and clinching, just boxed and circled away from Marg...but he didn't even fight him like Cotto did when he was doing good. He did his own thing for the most part. Well it's really not fair to give cotto any credit for mosley's win. Mosley is the guy that went in there and did what he did. All im saying is margarito wasn't the same that night. when have you ever seen margarito hurt like that? NEVER! not even against a very hard hitting 10lbs heavier daniel santos at 154 was he hurt. Cotto a very strong puncher never hurt margarito. Paul williams(who is koing 154 and 160 lbs) didn't even hurt margarito. Shane bearly stopped mayorga, who dlh and tito had no problem koing a much younger better mayorga. and now at 37 shane magically got these super powers and koed margarito? It's very obvious margarito wasn't the same margarito jan. 24th. it wasn't shane, I think margarito had alot taken out of him during the cotto fight.

cotto took those steps late in the fight, and that was from being tired not hurt. Mosley NEVER came close to hurting cotto, NEVER. Listen, all of that is besides the point even if I disagree and think Cotto was just saying that. Mosley learned more from what Cotto didn't do and his own background fighting Mexican fighters is what brought him to the dance. I'd give Cotto half the credit for Shane's victory if Shane instead of pressuring, body punching, and clinching, just boxed and circled away from Marg...but he didn't even fight him like Cotto did when he was doing good. He did his own thing for the most part.

If Mosley never bothered Cotto with his power Cotto would've never took a backward step back in the fight. Margarito is a human punching bag if you don't run from him and can clinch. cotto took those steps late in the fight, and that was from being tired not hurt. Mosley NEVER came close to hurting cotto, NEVER.

I doubt that was the case. IMO, it was more of a mental thing. Tony's body language in the Mosley fight was waay different than in the Cotto fight. If Cotto did soft him up, Shane wouldve finished him in 5 or 6 rounds, he was landing bombs at will. when have you ever seen margarito hurt like that? NEVER! not even against a very hard hitting 10lbs heavier daniel santos at 154 was he hurt. Cotto a very strong puncher never hurt margarito. Paul williams(who is koing 154 and 160 lbs) didn't even hurt margarito. Shane bearly stopped mayorga, who dlh and tito had no problem koing a much younger better mayorga. and now at 37 shane magically got these super powers and koed margarito? It's very obvious margarito wasn't the same margarito jan. 24th. it wasn't shane, I think margarito had alot taken out of him during the cotto fight.

um ok. I think I mentioned that Cotto did some things wrong, not clinching and going to the body are part of those things. Shane more than likely studied this fight more so than previous Tony fights because Kermit didnt win a single round against Tony in two fights, Clottey got hurt in his fight, and Shane doesn't have enough similarities to do what Paul did to him. Are we forgetting Mosley's background fighting in Southern Cal being a bigger reason on why he was able to handle him the way he did? Hmmm?

plus the amount of damage cotto did to margarito soften him up. Mosley bearly finished a mayorga who tito and dlh finished quite easily and mayorga was even younger at the time. Mosley couldn't even hurt cotto who's chin is 1/5 of margaritos strength, cotto soften margarito up, but im not making any excuses :nutkick: If Mosley never bothered Cotto with his power Cotto would've never took a backward step back in the fight. Margarito is a human punching bag if you don't run from him and can clinch.

No, because Shane saw what Miguel did right and what he did wrong against Margarito, allowing him and his team to come up with an effective gameplan. :smashfrea plus the amount of damage cotto did to margarito soften him up. Mosley bearly finished a mayorga who tito and dlh finished quite easily and mayorga was even younger at the time. Mosley couldn't even hurt cotto who's chin is 1/5 of margaritos strength, cotto soften margarito up, but im not making any excuses :nutkick:

No, because Shane saw what Miguel did right and what he did wrong against Margarito, allowing him and his team to come up with an effective gameplan. :smashfrea Actually there was 2x more to be learned in what Cotto was NOT doing than what he was, which is why I said what I did. Mosley pressured, clinched, stayed off the ropes (and Cotto is NOT the only victim of doing this against Marg), and went to the body (something Cotto said he found impossible to do against Tony). Let's not start giving credit where it doesn't entirely belong.

^ Why, because he learned from watching Cotto get beat up?

I dont want to make any excuses but mosley should send cotto a thank you letter.

"I take nothing away from Bernard Hopkins, but I wasnt myself. No excuses but I wasnt myself. But ya know no excuses, I got beat. I just didnt feel like myself in there." -Kelly Pavlik/Antonio Tarver.