I would understand with Williams but Dawson NO
Adamesk best CW now
Tarver beat RRJ twice and coming of win against Woods
Johnson a top 5 LHWAdamesk is his beast win and he's never been higher than 5th at LHW.
Tarver and Johnson are 40 and haven't been top 10 P4P for 5 years.
How does that make someone P4P top ten?
Answer: It doesn't and people should stop hyping Dawson saying he's a top 10 P4P.
How is Dawson or Williams’ a hypejob?
Dawson has beaten Tarver Johnson Adamesk and Harding
Because people are putting him in the Top 10 P4P when none of the four you mention are anything like worthy of getting you in top 10 P4P.
An incredibly weak division. Whoopty doo.Whats that got to do with it, how can anyone call him a hype job when all anyone hypes him about is being the best cruiserweight.
He IS the best Cruiserweight, no hype required.
Nobody said he's a good heavyweight, nobody mentions him in P4P terms so wheres the hype?
Even Haye doesn't call himself the best heavyweight or P4P.
because you mentioned Pavlik and Margarito, I assume you're talking about come forward, no defense, plodding fighters. Darchinyan certainly fits that mold, but he's fighting Arce, who is even WORSE than guys like Darchinyan and Margarito
Pavlik and Marg got their ass whoopins from great fighters. That ain't nothin to be ashamed of. Every time a name fighter loses, he's considered exposed. Makes no sense as neither of these guys was supposedly perfect, just good fighters.
I think it's fair to say Pavlik was exposes, considering his unbeaten record, relative youth and tremendous hype around his name in America... and the manner in which he lost
I agree Marg is beyond that point however, unless you consider him being caught cheating as being "exposed"
Pavlik and Marg got their ass whoopins from great fighters. That ain't nothin to be ashamed of. Every time a name fighter loses, he's considered exposed. Makes no sense as neither of these guys was supposedly perfect, just good fighters.
Don't be stupid. Pavlik's got 1 loss to a future HoFer (not to mention an ATG by most assessments) at 15lbs N of where he usually fights. :loser:
A completely one sided dominating loss where he couldn't even be competitive.
And, 10 lbs N of where he 'usually' fights.
PDL leaves a bad taste in my mouth, for some reason I really don't like him, him and maybe Matt Skelton, I like basically everyone else.
PDL hit's like a middleweight which makes up for his complete lack of talent.I like a banger as much as the next person but in the really lil weights it seems if your a massive banger you can rise to the top even if your a bit shit - like De Leon.
He is hard to watch up untill he gets the KO! I loved the Lopez fight now that guy looks like he has it all!
Oh man Matt Skelton is awfull i rather watch Audley and i hate him too!
Yeah i heard that too buddy, but every time ive seen the guy he just looks so so raw and wild he way to wide open if u ask me!
Tell me about it i give my self a 50/50 chance against PDL THATS how crude he is! hehe guys can really bang tho huh
PDL leaves a bad taste in my mouth, for some reason I really don't like him, him and maybe Matt Skelton, I like basically everyone else.
PDL hit's like a middleweight which makes up for his complete lack of talent.I like a banger as much as the next person but in the really lil weights it seems if your a massive banger you can rise to the top even if your a bit shit - like De Leon.
That's a good one.
Apparently he is skilled from what 'people-who-know' say.
Could have fooled me though, the only guy who has won at world-level consistanty who looked more wreckless and wild is Ponce De Leon.
Never have I seen a guy first comprehensively outboxed, broken down, picked apart and then knocked out like PDL...in under 3 minutes.
Yeah i heard that too buddy, but every time ive seen the guy he just looks so so raw and wild he way to wide open if u ask me!
Tell me about it i give my self a 50/50 chance against PDL THATS how crude he is! hehe guys can really bang tho huh
Edwin Valero
That's a good one.
Apparently he is skilled from what 'people-who-know' say.
Could have fooled me though, the only guy who has won at world-level consistanty who looked more wreckless and wild is Ponce De Leon.
Never have I seen a guy first comprehensively outboxed, broken down, picked apart and then knocked out like PDL...in under 3 minutes.