WHY DID MOSELY TURN DOWN A FLOYD FIGHT?? (Truth only)

Man, Mayweather fans talk out of their ass about who ducked who in this situation that it's not even funny. Mosley's fight against Vargas was in September of 06. He was fighting that fight at 154. Mayweather already had an HBO PPV date penciled in for November. He knew Shane didn't have that short amount of time to get down to Welterweight, so he called out Shane to look tough. What happened to Floyd when Mosley dominated Collazo? He went after the easier fighter in Ricky Hatton who doesn't know how to spell defense.

SSM was movin up to fight DLH yrs back when Mr boat buyer challenged him. After the Vargas rematch, DLH was plannin to fight Mr boat buyer. SSM knew his role in GBP. He wasn't gonna undercut the boss, so he balked wit that stupidass tooth shit. Nothin blockin the fight now other than Pac whom neither SSM nor Mr boat buyer should be worryin about.

I think people are forgeting who duck who duck first..

perfect time to rebump this thread

mosley said he had a toothache

Was all that hate needed? Floyd must have lost you some money..The way speaking on him like this. NO Hate, but why are hating on Floyd this hard? You must know him personally huh? because any other reason would be interesting to hear.. real talk,No hateWhy are you asking so many questions? WTF is wrong with u? did you order a energy drink or something?

Mayweather in no hurry to return for Mosley Thursday, January 29, 2009 By David Mayo Shane Mosley is making noise about fighting Floyd Mayweather again, both with his mouth and his fists. Perhaps he hasn't been listening. Mayweather might be willing to come back for the biggest fight in boxing. Or maybe not. He has not wavered from his position of the past several weeks, that if he felt guided to return to the ring for the sport's biggest possible event, he might. A definite maybe. Problem is, Mayweather-Mosley isn't the biggest possible fight. Make no mistake, Mayweather's return would be the biggest event in boxing. No debate about the overloaded welterweight division is complete without speculating about the Grand Rapids native's potential for a comeback. He is the highest-earning American in the sport, outside of Oscar De La Hoya, whose star power was dulled by last month's lopsided loss to Manny Pacquiao. Boxing could use a comeback by the undefeated Mayweather. And the longer he stays inactive, the more his ardent pursuers come to view him as vulnerable, which only increases the outcry. Like from Pacquiao, the man who assumed Mayweather's pound-for-pound mantle. Or from Ricky Hatton, the man left pancaked on a Las Vegas canvas, courtesy of a walloping left hook, last time Mayweather was seen in a ring. But Mosley? Mosley staked his most recent pursuit of Mayweather with a dominating ninth-round knockout of Antonio Margarito on Saturday before the largest crowd ever to fill Los Angeles' Staples Center for any event. Not even the 2004 Pistons-Lakers championship series drew like Mosley-Margarito. Keep in mind, however, that both Mosley and Margarito entered the fight with five losses. As impressive as Mosley's power display was, it isn't as if beating Margarito hadn't been done. It also is worth remembering the interminable delays Mosley caused for Mayweather on at least two occasions earlier in their careers, when the fight made all kinds of sense, only for Mosley to shy away. Ten years ago, when a fight between them would have matched two of the brilliant, rising stars in the sport, Mosley balked. He and his father and then-trainer, Jack, were at Van Andel Arena the night Mayweather brought Grand Rapids its first championship fight, after which Jack Mosley was asked to assess his interest in the matchup. For $10 million, his son would take the fight, Jack Mosley said, knowing that Mayweather had earned a $150,000 base purse for that night's lackluster decision over Carlos Rios, and that Mayweather-Mosley wasn't worth eight figures even if the purses were combined, then multiplied by two. They traveled divergent paths for years thereafter. Mosley moved up to welterweight and defeated De La Hoya, only to lose twice to Vernon Forrest. Another win over De La Hoya boosted him again, only to fall victim to a pair of losses to Ronald "Winky" Wright. It took until mid-2006, after Mosley scored consecutive knockouts over Fernando Vargas, before Mayweather-Mosley made sense again. Mosley decided to take a vacation instead, leaving Mayweather to fight Carlos Baldomir. So what would encourage Mayweather, whose eye is on bigger prizes against other marquee opponents, to agree to such a fight now that it benefits Mosley? Probably nothing. Richard Schaefer, chief executive of Golden Boy Promotions, said after Mosley's victory that he intends to open talks with Mayweather's representatives. That phone might ring a while. Mayweather-Mosley would be enormous. But fill in Mosley's name with someone else's -- someone who didn't hold up Mayweather's career, back when it mattered -- and that doesn't change. Mosley, at 37, scored a big victory. That doesn't mean he is the person to lure Mayweather out of retirement. That fight could have happened on several occasions. Mosley opted out every time. As much as Mosley might want to opt in now, the only opponent Mayweather should wait out is the Hatton-Pacquiao winner in May, assuming he is waiting bump:spank:

Floyd At 140 is not "20 million dollar" Money mayweather Floyd at 147 is "20 million dollar" Money mayweather. Money didnt Matter as much at 140 as it did at 147. because floyd was chasing FAME. (de la hoya) After he beat De la hoya, Floyd probably decided he would never fight for less than 20 million dollars again.. and he hasnt. but you cant say he never gave cotto a opportunity to become great...because he did. Cotto at 140 was a beast IMO, he is top 4 in the division. and he was probably the biggest 140 pounder there. My question to you? When did you consider cotto not green anymore...and why? after Judah? after quiantana?after mosely? because the only to figure out if you are not green is to fight the best. People said Mayweather was to green when he fought Genro..and he proved them wrong. People said Taylor was to green when he fought Hopkins and he prove them wrong. If Cotto would have fought and beat mayweather at 140 after the gatti fight would you still called him to green after that win...??? The problem is, you are making excuses for cotto, I am not. I think Cotto could have fought Floyd at 140 and it would have be a great fight Cotto style hasnt change much since 140 so it doesnt matter anyways. Like I said before Ready or Not, Great Athletes always take advantage of the moment. Thats makes them great, the ability to do great things when they are expected or ready 2. People Consider Mayweather great because when he did at a young age, and who he beat at a young age. the dude fought for 11 years and was a champion for 10 of them...That is a great accomplishment. thats why we called him great because ready or not Floyd took advantage of the moment whne the oppurntinities were presented to him at a young age, when people thought he was ready to do them. Cotto is not a baby, He could have fought Floyd at 140 and maybe could have won. but i guess he wasnt ready to become great. who knows... but The sad truth is that opportunity doesn't knock twice. You can put things off until tomorrow but tomorrow may never come I never read this post until right now but great points.

i just felt that if jin could beat up pbf, mosley never felt like needing to fight him. my logic is flawless of course, as always! b*tches! huh? what are you talking about?

i just felt that if jin could beat up pbf, mosley never felt like needing to fight him. my logic is flawless of course, as always! b*tches!

my bad for bumping this thread..but i just seen video proof that mosely did in fact duck floyd..

Mosley wasn't in his prime when any talks began about a proposed Mosley vs Mayweather fight. He'd already fought Oscar twice, Winky, and Vernon Forrest twice while Floyd was still beginning to gain widespread attention. In the same notion I can say Vernon Forrest called out Oscar, Winky, and Tito post the Mosley win, but realistically it wasn't going to happen (yet at least). Floyd was calling out everybody after every post fight interview just to get the ball rolling on him being marketed as the "bad guy" in the business...smart move on his team's part. But I am a bit surprised he turned down the fight because he knows GBP are the only promoters that can give him the money he wants and a win over Shane Mosley is STILL to this day a high accolade and a good look for Floyd being his resume is always up for debate. Honestly, Mayweather might be willing to come back for the biggest fight in boxing. Or maybe not. He has not wavered from his position of the past several weeks, that if he felt guided to return to the ring for the sport's biggest possible event, he might. A definite maybe. Problem is, Mayweather-Mosley isn't the biggest possible fight. Make no mistake, Mayweather's return would be the biggest event in boxing. This is Very important to consider: Mosley OPENLY DUCK Mayweather on at least two occasions earlier in their careers, when the fight made all kinds of sense, only for Mosley to shy away. Ten years ago, when a fight between them would have matched two of the brilliant, rising stars in the sport, Mosley balked. He and his father and then-trainer, Jack, were at Van Andel Arena the night Mayweather brought Grand Rapids its first championship fight, after which Jack Mosley was asked to assess his interest in the matchup. For $10 million, his son would take the fight, Jack Mosley said, knowing that Mayweather had earned a $150,000 base purse for that night's lackluster decision over Carlos Rios, and that Mayweather-Mosley wasn't worth eight figures even if the purses were combined, then multiplied by two. They traveled divergent paths for years thereafter. Mosley moved up to welterweight and defeated De La Hoya, only to lose twice to Vernon Forrest. Another win over De La Hoya boosted him again, only to fall victim to a pair of losses to Ronald "Winky" Wright. It took until mid-2006, after Mosley scored consecutive knockouts over Fernando Vargas, before Mayweather-Mosley made sense again. Mosley decided to take a vacation instead, leaving Mayweather to fight Carlos Baldomir. So what would encourage Mayweather, whose eye is on bigger prizes against other marquee opponents, to agree to such a fight now that it benefits Mosley? Probably nothing.

it is all bad for him then.... but what does that got to do with the fact mosely has turn at least 3 offers to fight floyd in the past..when Mosely was in his prime?? Mosley wasn't in his prime when any talks began about a proposed Mosley vs Mayweather fight. He'd already fought Oscar twice, Winky, and Vernon Forrest twice while Floyd was still beginning to gain widespread attention. In the same notion I can say Vernon Forrest called out Oscar, Winky, and Tito post the Mosley win, but realistically it wasn't going to happen (yet at least). Floyd was calling out everybody after every post fight interview just to get the ball rolling on him being marketed as the "bad guy" in the business...smart move on his team's part. But I am a bit surprised he turned down the fight because he knows GBP are the only promoters that can give him the money he wants and a win over Shane Mosley is STILL to this day a high accolade and a good look for Floyd being his resume is always up for debate.

U know the writer of that story got caught with like 100 lbs of marijuanna in basement and plants and lights, the whole 9. it is all bad for him then.... but what does that got to do with the fact mosely has turn at least 3 offers to fight floyd in the past..when Mosely was in his prime??

Case Closed.!! U know the writer of that story got caught with like 100 lbs of marijuanna in basement and plants and lights, the whole 9.

Mayweather in no hurry to return for Mosley Thursday, January 29, 2009 By David Mayo Shane Mosley is making noise about fighting Floyd Mayweather again, both with his mouth and his fists. Perhaps he hasn't been listening. Mayweather might be willing to come back for the biggest fight in boxing. Or maybe not. He has not wavered from his position of the past several weeks, that if he felt guided to return to the ring for the sport's biggest possible event, he might. A definite maybe. Problem is, Mayweather-Mosley isn't the biggest possible fight. Make no mistake, Mayweather's return would be the biggest event in boxing. No debate about the overloaded welterweight division is complete without speculating about the Grand Rapids native's potential for a comeback. He is the highest-earning American in the sport, outside of Oscar De La Hoya, whose star power was dulled by last month's lopsided loss to Manny Pacquiao. Boxing could use a comeback by the undefeated Mayweather. And the longer he stays inactive, the more his ardent pursuers come to view him as vulnerable, which only increases the outcry. Like from Pacquiao, the man who assumed Mayweather's pound-for-pound mantle. Or from Ricky Hatton, the man left pancaked on a Las Vegas canvas, courtesy of a walloping left hook, last time Mayweather was seen in a ring. But Mosley? Mosley staked his most recent pursuit of Mayweather with a dominating ninth-round knockout of Antonio Margarito on Saturday before the largest crowd ever to fill Los Angeles' Staples Center for any event. Not even the 2004 Pistons-Lakers championship series drew like Mosley-Margarito. Keep in mind, however, that both Mosley and Margarito entered the fight with five losses. As impressive as Mosley's power display was, it isn't as if beating Margarito hadn't been done. It also is worth remembering the interminable delays Mosley caused for Mayweather on at least two occasions earlier in their careers, when the fight made all kinds of sense, only for Mosley to shy away. Ten years ago, when a fight between them would have matched two of the brilliant, rising stars in the sport, Mosley balked. He and his father and then-trainer, Jack, were at Van Andel Arena the night Mayweather brought Grand Rapids its first championship fight, after which Jack Mosley was asked to assess his interest in the matchup. For $10 million, his son would take the fight, Jack Mosley said, knowing that Mayweather had earned a $150,000 base purse for that night's lackluster decision over Carlos Rios, and that Mayweather-Mosley wasn't worth eight figures even if the purses were combined, then multiplied by two. They traveled divergent paths for years thereafter. Mosley moved up to welterweight and defeated De La Hoya, only to lose twice to Vernon Forrest. Another win over De La Hoya boosted him again, only to fall victim to a pair of losses to Ronald "Winky" Wright. It took until mid-2006, after Mosley scored consecutive knockouts over Fernando Vargas, before Mayweather-Mosley made sense again. Mosley decided to take a vacation instead, leaving Mayweather to fight Carlos Baldomir. So what would encourage Mayweather, whose eye is on bigger prizes against other marquee opponents, to agree to such a fight now that it benefits Mosley? Probably nothing. Richard Schaefer, chief executive of Golden Boy Promotions, said after Mosley's victory that he intends to open talks with Mayweather's representatives. That phone might ring a while. Mayweather-Mosley would be enormous. But fill in Mosley's name with someone else's -- someone who didn't hold up Mayweather's career, back when it mattered -- and that doesn't change. Mosley, at 37, scored a big victory. That doesn't mean he is the person to lure Mayweather out of retirement. That fight could have happened on several occasions. Mosley opted out every time. As much as Mosley might want to opt in now, the only opponent Mayweather should wait out is the Hatton-Pacquiao winner in May, assuming he is waiting Case Closed.!!

I think this is a great thread.. alot of honest discussion

I didnt even want to bring that up...but this is true too. Arum **** floyd out of alot of money from that Judah fight...something so serious that floyd took him to court.. I heard things have gotten better now between the two of them... but floyd was pretty piss at arum Lovely excuse. Arum hasn't been convicted of anything and also Claims Floyd owes him money. If Floyd wanted the fights they could have been worked out, its been done before. Bottom line...Floyd made excuses and said no. Told Margs down the road, and said Cotto needed to buiold a fan base even though he wanted him at 140 where he was much lessd known.

You still havent said what has change in his style to make him now alll of a sudden more compable to beat floyd...What change iin cotto style since 2006 that now makes him ready.. How do you know he's not capable of beating Floyd unless they fight? Maybe he just needed a few more fights to build his confidence. and.. honestly i dont know why Floyd gave a oppurtunity to Cotto at 140.., because at 140 and 147 and right now Cotto would get tko'ed.. He is very flawed..and would be probably tko'ed against Floyd... because he gets hit too much... waste punches. Maybe floyd wanted a good follow up fight after gatti... Something that would keep him busy. This is a bunch of crap since Floyd has never had to deal with a fighter as strong, fast and who brings as much pressure. If you say Hatton you're wrong. Hatton doesn't hit as hard and he smothers his own punches. I don't claim Cotto wins(although I do think its the toughest fight for Floyd)but he was and is a deserving challenger capable of pulling the upset.

Maybe because he was still signed to Arum at the time. After Floyd broke away and sued Arum he wanted nothing to do with him or his fighters when it came down to business. Seems reasonable to me. I didnt even want to bring that up...but this is true too. Arum **** floyd out of alot of money from that Judah fight...something so serious that floyd took him to court.. I heard things have gotten better now between the two of them... but floyd was pretty piss at arum