Who could have beaten Mosley at LW?

Mosley and Mayweather are not close to being two of the best 135 lbers ever. You might think that they could beat everyone else, but the fact is that they did not come close to beating the same kind of opposition that Duran and Whitaker did at lightweight. That's true but Mosley and Mayweather would have been hell for any lightweight in history. And if you look at the opponents of both Duran and Whitaker, there is not a single fighter on there better than either Mosley or Mayweather. Those two would have been their best opponents by far. As far as all time rantings go, I agree that neither Mosley or Mayweather should rank as high as Duran or Whitaker.

Mosley himself admitted that he was badly weight-drained as a lightweight, putting on nearly 20 lbs after the weigh-ins. He also thought that he was at his best as a welterweight against De La Hoya, which I agree with. His welterweight career overshadows his lightweight run, in my opinion. How do you think Shane would have fared against Leonard, Gans, Ortiz, Duran and other top lightweights had he had to go through same day weigh ins?

Shanes power at 135 is undeniable and much more devestating than it was at 147. 29ko in 31 fights. regardless of how drained he was, his domination is on paper boys. The majority of his KO wins were over nobodies. Mosley was 23-0 with 22 KO's before he won the title and he had not fought anybody up to that point. He went the distance with Philip Holiday and then stopped a couple of decent title contenders in the later rounds. His LW run just wasn't that impressive to me.

Shanes power at 135 is undeniable and much more devestating than it was at 147. 29ko in 31 fights. regardless of how drained he was, his domination is on paper boys.

Mosley and Mayweather are not close to being two of the best 135 lbers ever. You might think that they could beat everyone else, but the fact is that they did not come close to beating the same kind of opposition that Duran and Whitaker did at lightweight. Mosley himself admitted that he was badly weight-drained as a lightweight, putting on nearly 20 lbs after the weigh-ins. He also thought that he was at his best as a welterweight against De La Hoya, which I agree with. His welterweight career overshadows his lightweight run, in my opinion.

Benny Leonard beats Shane right after George Mican schools Lebron James. Two diff eras. Benny may have been better in his era than Shane was in his but if the two met, Benny would get blasted. Prime Floyd vs Prime Shane would tell us who the best 135 pound fighter ever was. Duran would have been a great fight but he has more no mas in him than shane does so I'd go with Shane and his speed. Pernell would have a chance, but I think that Floyd and shane are 1-2 in whatever order at the 135lb class. No way Floyd beats shane easy. Zab won the first five rounds against Floyd. A much slower and smaller Castillo gave him alot of trouble. Shane has one of the hardest chins in the buis, and Floyd doesn't crack hard enough to hurt him. And Shanes hands were faster and stronger than Floyds. Shane vs Floyd is completely up in the air. Mosley and Mayweather are not close to being two of the best 135 lbers ever. You might think that they could beat everyone else, but the fact is that they did not come close to beating the same kind of opposition that Duran and Whitaker did at lightweight.

Serious question, if anyone here is familiar with SSM at LW who do you think could have beaten Mosley at 135? Seriously though at 135 he was 31-0 with 29 KOs. He was faster, more natural, fluid, and aggressive. SSM was also the best combo puncher in the biz at that point. I want to know who you think would beat him at 135? Duran and Whitaker are the only two I would pick that I have actually seen. Possibly Mayweather. I don't think Chavez could beat Mosley based on what I saw in the Meldrick Taylor fight. Mosley was every bit as fast as Taylor and hit much harder with a better chin and defense.That would not have been good news for Chavez.

Benny Leonard beats Shane right after George Mican schools Lebron James. Two diff eras. Benny may have been better in his era than Shane was in his but if the two met, Benny would get blasted. Prime Floyd vs Prime Shane would tell us who the best 135 pound fighter ever was. Duran would have been a great fight but he has more no mas in him than shane does so I'd go with Shane and his speed. Pernell would have a chance, but I think that Floyd and shane are 1-2 in whatever order at the 135lb class. No way Floyd beats shane easy. Zab won the first five rounds against Floyd. A much slower and smaller Castillo gave him alot of trouble. Shane has one of the hardest chins in the buis, and Floyd doesn't crack hard enough to hurt him. And Shanes hands were faster and stronger than Floyds. Shane vs Floyd is completely up in the air.

Duran, Whitaker, Mayweather and possibly JLC. Not alot of people Mayweather doesn't beat Mosley @ lightweight.. Duran & Whittaker I agree.

I would'nt say Floyd gets knocked silly, maybe lose but it would be a tight decision, Floyd would give anyone from 130-140 a tough fight, dude's got skills I'm not too sure if Duran has the style to beat Mosley, i feel Floyd and Whitaker match up better Well knocked silly might be a bit strong but he defo wins and inflicts some damage along the way

Henry armstrong, his style is all wrong for mosley.

Duran and that it! Mayweather gets Knocked silly and i think Mosley would edgeout Sweet Pea by a razor thin points win, Chavez gets stopped and i cant think of anybody else right now I would'nt say Floyd gets knocked silly, maybe lose but it would be a tight decision, Floyd would give anyone from 130-140 a tough fight, dude's got skills I'm not too sure if Duran has the style to beat Mosley, i feel Floyd and Whitaker match up better

Duran and that it! Mayweather gets Knocked silly and i think Mosley would edgeout Sweet Pea by a razor thin points win, Chavez gets stopped and i cant think of anybody else right now

But this thread isn't about Greatness, it's about head to head matchups. He'll never be considered the greatest at LW and of course we can only speculate on h2h as his competition at LW wasn't the best. True enough. True enough.

Thats fine, he never saw Shane Mosley, never saw Roberto Duran either. No, but he saw Gans, Canzoneri, Dixon, Blackburn and many others during a time when there wwas half the weight classes, more professional fighters and only one champ in each division. Seems kind of funny he would pick Leonard out of all the fighters he could have picked, doesn't it? a guy he had no ties to whatsoever and absolutely no reason to call him the best unless he truly believed it. Arcel had said that Duran was like a son to him, yet still rates Leonard higher. Kind of makes you think that he wasn't biased at all.

Shane had great skills at 135. But to be considered the greatest at any weight a fighter needs logevity, accomplishment and competition. Mosely falls short in these departments to many fighters. We can't judge on what we think he would have done, only on what he did. That said, he matches up well with many of the best lightweights in my opinion. But this thread isn't about Greatness, it's about head to head matchups. He'll never be considered the greatest at LW and of course we can only speculate on h2h as his competition at LW wasn't the best.

somewhat but so much ignorance on this site... shane should be considered the best lightweight of all time. "not of this time or that time. but of all time."- floyd sr. Shane had great skills at 135. But to be considered the greatest at any weight a fighter needs logevity, accomplishment and competition. Mosely falls short in these departments to many fighters. We can't judge on what we think he would have done, only on what he did. That said, he matches up well with many of the best lightweights in my opinion.

I think Phillip Holiday was a pretty decent win, John John Molina's best work was at SFW, but it was still a decent win. Obviously Shane's best work came later, and who knows how effective he would've been had he stayed at LW, or if he'd had the opportunity to face better opposition. Heads up I think he gives most LWs problems though.QUOTE] Of course he would. But its crazy to just say he would have beaten them all, especially based on his competition. I haven't seen enough of Leonard to make any judgement, but of those I've seen, Duran and Whitaker would beat him, Floyd would be pretty close.

I think Phillip Holiday was a pretty decent win, John John Molina's best work was at SFW, but it was still a decent win. Obviously Shane's best work came later, and who knows how effective he would've been had he stayed at LW, or if he'd had the opportunity to face better opposition. Heads up I think he gives most LWs problems though.QUOTE] Of course he would. But its crazy to just say he would have beaten them all, especially based on his competition.

MOSLEY WOULD WHOOP ON MAYWEATHER BAD AT 135, 147, and 154. I HOPE ThE FIGHT WITH THEM TWO ARE MADE SO MOSLEY COULD KNOCK THAT LITTLE GAYWeATHER THE **** OUT. MOSLEY KNOCKED OUT THE GUY MAYWEATHER'S BEEN DUCKING. MAYWEATHER IS SHITTING BRICKS RIGHT NOW.