This is a pic of Billy Collins Jr. after his fight with Luis Resto. Resto's wraps was made with plaster of Paris by infamous Panama Lewis.
http://machochip.com/Billy%20Collins%20Jr.jpg
This is Miguel Cotto in his fight with Antonio Margarito. After the discovery of illegal wraps on Margarito's fists before his fight with Shane Mosley it's impossible not to speculate if Margarito has cheated before.
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Miguel+Cotto+v+Antonio+Margarito+2_P9j9BaPVkl.jpg
Oh yeah. Suspicions about every Margarito fight is bound to follow.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember that no solid evidence was found? I'm not to familiar with this case. Anybody knows the details?
exactly bat.nothing was taking from tito's camp, nothing.for the people that keep repeating this, to excuse margarito, see sig.I'm done repeating myself.
put it like this, why the **** would margarito feel the need to cheat vs mosley? the guy was on top of the welterweight world.he must have felt invincible after taking all thos shots from cotto, then to beat him too a pulp.it shouldn't even be a question.it should be pretty ****ing obvious.coming from a fight he needed to win, this was his biggest fight. the rest of his career depended on it.so why would he feel the need to cheat mosley? its simple, because he's probably done it before.there is no doubt in my mind he cheated cotto.
I agree. I THINK he has done it before.
Now how about his trainer? Which other fighters does he train?
put it like this, why the **** would margarito feel the need to cheat vs mosley? the guy was on top of the welterweight world.he must have felt invincible after taking all thos shots from cotto, then to beat him too a pulp.it shouldn't even be a question.it should be pretty ****ing obvious.coming from a fight he needed to win, this was his biggest fight. the rest of his career depended on it.so why would he feel the need to cheat mosley? its simple, because he's probably done it before.there is no doubt in my mind he cheated cotto.
what good will a rematch do if Margo did use them and as a result Cotto lost some brain cells?
how do you know cotto's loss of brain cells is from margo punches and not all the alcohol cotto likes to imbibe?
Surely a rematch will give clear indication whether Marg wore them in the first fight.
only a rematch will verify if margarito cheated. if he did, cotto should whup margarito. if margarito didnt cheat cotto loses again.
Surely a rematch will give clear indication whether Marg wore them in the first fight.
what good will a rematch do if Margo did use them and as a result Cotto lost some brain cells?
A rematch will be the best option, as far as the cheating goes, Mosley and Vargas used illegal subtances, Tito overwrapped his hands, this thing happens..
Did you see this?
http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:887356
Oh yeah. Suspicions about every Margarito fight is bound to follow.
Felix Trinidad didn't go to jail.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember that no solid evidence was found? I'm not to familiar with this case. Anybody knows the details?
Felix Trinidad didn't go to jail.
The Resto-Collins fight was worse because not only did Resto use plastered handwraps, Panama Lewis had also taken off the padding from his gloves which made Resto's fists hard as rocks.
That fight was very brutal and Collins suffered permanent damage which ended his career, Cotto was bleeding badly but aside from his cuts he suffered no injuries.
I do think that Cotto's cuts and bleeding affected the way the fight went, perhaps Margarito wouldn't have done as much damage to his face so quickly if he hadn't used plastered gloves.
They removed an oz of padding as well that's correct.
Regarding the injuries suffered by Collins it doesn't really matter as the intent to turn a dangerous sport deadly was (and is?) there. Resto got 3 years in jail and Panama Lewis got 6 and a US permaban.
If his wraps were illegal against Mosley a rematch will have to wait Margarito's return from a long stay behind bars.
i agree completely!!! who knows how long hes been doing it but if any fight needs to be investigated its the Cotto fight!!
Felix Trinidad didn't go to jail.
The Resto-Collins fight was worse because not only did Resto use plastered handwraps, Panama Lewis had also taken off the padding from his gloves which made Resto's fists hard as rocks.
That fight was very brutal and Collins suffered permanent damage which ended his career, Cotto was bleeding badly but aside from his cuts he suffered no injuries.
I do think that Cotto's cuts and bleeding affected the way the fight went, perhaps Margarito wouldn't have done as much damage to his face so quickly if he hadn't used plastered gloves.
Resto's use of plastered handwraps actually wasn't known until he admitted it just a year or two ago in an interview. Resto and Lewis went to prison solely because they had taken the padding off the gloves.
It will but now that Margarito cheated Mayweather will never fight Cotto. If Cotto wins Mayweather will just say Shane ruined Margarito and that he has 6 L's. Margarito cheating cost Cotto the chance at Mayweather, DLH, and being the face of boxing.
Margarito cheating may have cost Margarito the rest of his career. Don't try to turn this into something Mayweather did wrong.
How about this: If it's proven the wraps were plastered against Mosley, Margarito goes to jail for 3 years and gets banned from boxing for life?
Well they could do that too.
How about this: If it's proven the wraps were plastered against Mosley, Margarito goes to jail for 3 years and gets banned from boxing for life?
Exactly. He should be charged for assault with a deadly weapon.
How about this: If it's proven the wraps were plastered against Mosley, Margarito goes to jail for 3 years and gets banned from boxing for life?
Felix Trinidad didn't go to jail.
The Resto-Collins fight was worse because not only did Resto use plastered handwraps, Panama Lewis had also taken off the padding from his gloves which made Resto's fists hard as rocks.
That fight was very brutal and Collins suffered permanent damage which ended his career, Cotto was bleeding badly but aside from his cuts he suffered no injuries.
I do think that Cotto's cuts and bleeding affected the way the fight went, perhaps Margarito wouldn't have done as much damage to his face so quickly if he hadn't used plastered gloves.
How about this; the California commission should offer him a deal (assuming the other major commissions are willing to honor it). Something like a 3-5 year ban if he comes clean about EVERYTHING, every time he ever used plaster of Paris, etc. If he doesn't go for the deal or doesn't come clean about everything BANNED FOREVER.
How about this: If it's proven the wraps were plastered against Mosley, Margarito goes to jail for 3 years and gets banned from boxing for life?
Of course it's not proven, but I'd bet that he has used it before for sure.
How about this; the California commission should offer him a deal (assuming the other major commissions are willing to honor it). Something like a 3-5 year ban if he comes clean about EVERYTHING, every time he ever used plaster of Paris, etc. If he doesn't go for the deal or doesn't come clean about everything BANNED FOREVER.