I cant believe some of you called this a robbery!

Had a new BW3 open about 5 miles from where I live. The management started airing boxing PPV's and you could go for $3. After the Mayweather/Hatton fight they stopped doing it. The black people ruined it for everyone by starting fights, throwing sh*t, and not tipping the waitstaff. ha, I had the same problem after the Trinidad Roy Jones fight. Puerto Ricans were not happy. found somewhere else though, and the crowds are pretty stable there.

HBO can only crack down on so many streams. The bigger the fight, the more sources for a stream. There's no way in hell they're stopping Margarito/Mosley from being online next week. As for me, I have no friends in real life who care a bit about boxing. That's why I come here, to discuss it with you guys. And I'm not shelling out any more money for shit undercards and only 1 good fight. (Main event)thats the main reason I come on this website myself actually. but Im starting to rub off on people. its surprising how much more interested people can get in something as soon as they find out someone else likes it. people are odd, but whatever. Im gonna try to get people to go with me to the Valentines Day triple header, since I live in Florida and thats an awesome card. but Margarito-Mosley is free HBO anyway.

just have to do some exploring. generally, its more cost effective to drive pretty far out of your way to go to a bar than to order the ppv. although I can understand other people's situations, its a pain in the butt sometimes. Had a new BW3 open about 5 miles from where I live. The management started airing boxing PPV's and you could go for $3. After the Mayweather/Hatton fight they stopped doing it. The black people ruined it for everyone by starting fights, throwing sh*t, and not tipping the waitstaff.

That's assuming you live somewhere that has bars cool enough to carry fights. I dont actually. I live in a very rural area. redneck country. in fact, Im almost a redneck myself. I like country music a lot at least, haha. just have to do some exploring. generally, its more cost effective to drive pretty far out of your way to go to a bar than to order the ppv. although I can understand other people's situations, its a pain in the butt sometimes.

Collazo was robbed, no question about it. 2 years ago he was mugged by a bunch of thugs and was robbed. This fight? Nah he wasn't robbed.

I just watched the fight(in very good quality), and Im simply amazed that people are crying robbery. first of all, this was a fantastic fight. just great. yall may not agree on who won, but we should all agree that there should be a rematch. :hail: I had Berto winning 7-5...in other words, by 1 point. this fight was easy to score, other than one round...the 6th. which honestly could have gone either way. I went ahead and watched it twice just to make sure I was giving it to the right guy. but this just in...if one round could have gone either way, and the whole fight was decided by one round...ITS NOT A ROBBERY. even Lederman got the rounds right, other than the 7th round...he must have gone to the bathroom or something during that round, that was probebly the most dominant round for Berto all night, but he gave it to Collazo. huh? but honestly, this fight was not that hard to score. Berto won rounds 2,5,7,8,11,12 Collazo won rounds 1,3,4,9,10 and the 6th was the only real close one. Exactly......I agree word for word :fing02:.....I gave the 6th to Berto.....no robbery!

just go to a bar or invite friends over to help pay for it. streams are usually lousy, and HBO has been cracking down on them lately, they aint reliable. its way more fun at a bar. at least to me. That's assuming you live somewhere that has bars cool enough to carry fights.

When I watched it last night I had it 114-113 for Collazo, but I'll have to rewatch it and see if anything changes. Either way it was a close fight, Berto closed the show, Collazo did not. The 12th round lost Collazo the fight....Berto just wanted it a little more.

Absolutely. I'd start paying for PPV's again instead of watching them online for free and laughing at HBO. :boxing: just go to a bar or invite friends over to help pay for it. streams are usually lousy, and HBO has been cracking down on them lately, they aint reliable. its way more fun at a bar. at least to me.

Berto needed a fight like this.

Yeah you must be dreaming to think HBO would ever deliver a packed card like that. What happened? Did Pac scramble your brains and leave you looking like Diaz in your avatar? ;) :trink26: Yeah I was just drinikin and dreaming it be nice though wouldn't it?

just rewatched the 5th and Im standing behind my choice for that round. it was probebly the slowest of the fight...not saying much...but neither of them landed that much. but most of Collazo's left hands were actually pushed away with a shoulder roll, and I saw a few clean right hands, a left hook and 1 or 2 clean jabs land for Berto, which won him the round for me. round 7 was probebly the most one sided round of the night for Berto, Collazo only threw around 30 punches from my estimation.

trust me, watch the 7th round again. thats the round where Collazo basically took the round off and barely threw anything, it was a very clear Berto round. the 6th is probebly the one youre talking about, and while Collazo did counter effectively, there wasnt a huge amount of power behind a lot of his punches(although a lot of those shots were very clean), and he only countered off the ropes for a portion of the round. the first minute of the round Berto was boxing effectively from the outside and landed a few good punches when he threw combinations...but in the end it was a pretty big uppercut that he landed toward the end of the round that tipped the scale for Berto, in my opinion. that was the closest round of the fight for me. I made the 6th an even round. Very tough to judge In the end i had the fight a draw. I still think the point deduction was bogus, but it happens. The fight could be scored 114-113 either way or a draw. I have no problem with Berto getting the nod. There will be a rematch most likely and i'm very happy about that.

It was definitly a grest fight, but the right man got the decision. **** that judge that scored the fight 116-111, he's an asswhole. Berto won, but as Collazo stated 114-113 was a great score.

Exactly robbery is SantaCruz-Casamayor this fight was just like JMM-Pac some rounds were so close it's hard to argue with someone giving the round to eithier fighter! I had it Berto 114-113. Let's hope there is a rematch it would be nice to see a rematch on say the pac-Hatton fight undercard but we know that won't happen. Imagine a card with Cunningham-Adamek,Bute-Andrade,Berto-Collazo and Pac-Hatton. If they hyped that with a 24/7 spotlighted on all fighters and the first fights it would bring a new spin to 24/7 and really would get hype and you know it wouldn't disappoint. I can dream right?

trust me, watch the 7th round again. thats the round where Collazo basically took the round off and barely threw anything, it was a very clear Berto round. the 6th is probebly the one youre talking about, and while Collazo did counter effectively, there wasnt a huge amount of power behind a lot of his punches(although a lot of those shots were very clean), and he only countered off the ropes for a portion of the round. the first minute of the round Berto was boxing effectively from the outside and landed a few good punches when he threw combinations...but in the end it was a pretty big uppercut that he landed toward the end of the round that tipped the scale for Berto, in my opinion. that was the closest round of the fight for me. I'll have to watch again. I know Collazo took that one round off clearly that Lederman gave him but otherwise I agreed with Lederman on every single round.

The round where Collazo fought off the ropes for nearly 2 minutes (I believe the 7th) was clearly Colazzo's round and you gave it to Berto. Collazo was eating him up in that round it wasn't even close, Berto was completely ineffective and Collazo was landing clean to the head and body. Just cause he was on the ropes doesen't mean the other guy automatically gets the round. trust me, watch the 7th round again. thats the round where Collazo basically took the round off and barely threw anything, it was a very clear Berto round. the 6th is probebly the one youre talking about, and while Collazo did counter effectively, there wasnt a huge amount of power behind a lot of his punches(although a lot of those shots were very clean), and he only countered off the ropes for a portion of the round. the first minute of the round Berto was boxing effectively from the outside and landed a few good punches when he threw combinations...but in the end it was a pretty big uppercut that he landed toward the end of the round that tipped the scale for Berto, in my opinion. that was the closest round of the fight for me.

5th was pretty close. Berto controlled the tempo, while Collazo landed the better shots overall. He landed some nice straight lefts and then hit the body some plus some hooks. It just wasn't as consistent as the other rounds. Round 6 was similar, but Berto actually landed more of his shots and did well for the first two minutes or so unitl Collazo caught up. I scored Round 6 for Berto because he did the better work in the first two minutes, however that was the cloest round in the fight.

Great fight. Its hard for people to be objective on the board these days. I like Berto but could understand if he lost. It was that Close. I watched it again and still 114 113 Berto

t but the fact that Berto ended up with the win is not a robbery whatsoever though. what made this even more great is that I had it anyones fight going into the 12th, and Berto ended up rallying and winning the fight because of that final round. I dont remember Collazo winning the 5th, warp. The round where Collazo fought off the ropes for nearly 2 minutes (I believe the 7th) was clearly Colazzo's round and you gave it to Berto. Collazo was eating him up in that round it wasn't even close, Berto was completely ineffective and Collazo was landing clean to the head and body. Just cause he was on the ropes doesen't mean the other guy automatically gets the round.