I have been a fan of both for a while, and i admired them both. however it seems to me that a lot of mayweather fans like to discredit his achievments, because he is getting more attention and recognition as p4p fighter. Is pacs success undermining floyd.
DUDE U FUNNY!!!!
Zab has only lost too much bigger boxers and HOfer, besides Floyd and Zoo, who his size has beat him. Zab beats JMM and philip N-dou at 135 beats JMM too.
I try.
You think i could make as a stand-up commedian?:banana:
You give the size excuse on Zab's loses but you say Pac is just Hype.
You do know that Pac was always the smaller guy .When he lose a close fight to morales, he was the smaller guy.
He's former flyweight champion homie, and just made Oscar QUit at 147.
112-147
Only an IDIOT like yourself thinks Pacquiao is just "hype".
That's why i'm done arguing with you.
Why wasn't it because of the Pacman?
You don't think Pacquiao's southpaw style, bobbing and weaving , in and out movement,circling ,speed,power, which was evident from the opening bell had something to do with it? F*ck outta here with your bullsh*t!You just mad cause Pacquiao was more impressive gainst oscar than your boy Floyd.
And why shouldn't he fought Morales the third time.?It was a trilogy.
Talking bout "climaxed",that fight made more sense than Floyd fighting a punching bag Gatti .
JMM doesn't get stopped twice by a Robbie Peden. Hell no,he make bums like that vomit blood in the corner.
JMM will never do the chicken dance in 2 rounds or get beat by a boxer with the class of Baldomir.
Corley wears Victoria Secret thongs. LMAO.
POUND4POUND, JMM is better than Judah and Corley combined. DUDE U FUNNY!!!!
Zab has only lost too much bigger boxers and HOfer, besides Floyd and Zoo, who his size has beat him. Zab beats JMM and philip N-dou at 135 beats JMM too.
YEAH I picked oscar to win and that was good win, but i didn't see Oscar that night and it wasn't because pacman that Oscar wasn't Oscar. but pacman did what he was supposed to do, congrats to him for that. Morales was done and pac never should have fought him a 3rd time. He had climaxed already before their 1st fight..he was done. JMM is good, but he ain't #2... I'll take nate campbell over him at 135 right now. and truth be told JMM wouldn't beat judah now nor earlier or Ndou at that time at 135 or 140. FLOYD RETIRED....DEAL WITH IT, funny lol
Why wasn't it because of the Pacman?
You don't think Pacquiao's southpaw style, bobbing and weaving , in and out movement,circling ,speed,power, which was evident from the opening bell had something to do with it? F*ck outta here with your bullsh*t!You just mad cause Pacquiao was more impressive gainst oscar than your boy Floyd.
And why shouldn't he fought Morales the third time.?It was a trilogy.
Talking bout "climaxed",that fight made more sense than Floyd fighting a punching bag Gatti .
JMM doesn't get stopped twice by a Robbie Peden. Hell no,he make bums like that vomit blood in the corner.
JMM will never do the chicken dance in 2 rounds or get beat by a boxer with the class of Baldomir.
Corley wears Victoria Secret thongs. LMAO.
POUND4POUND, JMM is better than Judah and Corley combined.
Pac moved up TWO weight classes against delaHoya.
98% percent of fans and experts picked oscar to win and some even wanted to boycott it cause they thought it was gonna be a mismatch. I bet your ass picked Oscar to win too.
Morales may not be in his prime, but he's still one of the best at 130 that time and ALot of fans picked him to win. He lose to Raheem because of Raheem's slick style. Morales had never been with anyone of that style before and that was his debut at 135 where Morales came in overweight at the weigh in. Morales has never tasted the canvass before and Pac was the first to make him, knocking him out TWICE!
And you talk like JMM is just some bum.He's one of the best of this era currently on the #2 p4p spot and if it wasn't for that judge who the 1st rnd 10-7, Pac would've won..
JMM is no Baldomir,Judah,Gatti,Sharmba,Corley,Bruselles,Ndou or some other decent opponents PBF faced that suddenly makes him the GOAT by some of his nuthuggers.
And oh yea, FLOYD IS RETIRED! Deal with it.
YEAH I picked oscar to win and that was good win, but i didn't see Oscar that night and it wasn't because pacman that Oscar wasn't Oscar. but pacman did what he was supposed to do, congrats to him for that. Morales was done and pac never should have fought him a 3rd time. He had climaxed already before their 1st fight..he was done. JMM is good, but he ain't #2... I'll take nate campbell over him at 135 right now. and truth be told JMM wouldn't beat judah now nor earlier or Ndou at that time at 135 or 140. FLOYD RETIRED....DEAL WITH IT, funny lol
He beat a Oscar who hadn't seen 147 since damn near the 90's. let's be realistic, he a good fighter but losing to a out of his prime Morales and then beating him after his wars with Barrera and schooling by raheem. then he beat Barrera who was worn down, but still very game. and then he gets a draw with JMM after KOing 3 times in the 1st rd and never really convincingly beating him. this is our best fighter....what pure boxers have he faced, what slick fighters have he faced, what strong fighters have he faced. hatton is going his first fight not fighting a mexican style in i don't now when. This is our best fighter...no i think not. But he a good fighter though, I think he need to do some more before I give him title of king of the ring.
Pac moved up TWO weight classes against delaHoya.
98% percent of fans and experts picked oscar to win and some even wanted to boycott it cause they thought it was gonna be a mismatch. I bet your ass picked Oscar to win too.
Morales may not be in his prime, but he's still one of the best at 130 that time and ALot of fans picked him to win. He lose to Raheem because of Raheem's slick style. Morales had never been with anyone of that style before and that was his debut at 135 where Morales came in overweight at the weigh in. Morales has never tasted the canvass before and Pac was the first to make him, knocking him out TWICE!
And you talk like JMM is just some bum.He's one of the best of this era currently on the #2 p4p spot and if it wasn't for that judge who the 1st rnd 10-7, Pac would've won..
JMM is no Baldomir,Judah,Gatti,Sharmba,Corley,Bruselles,Ndou or some other decent opponents PBF faced that suddenly makes him the GOAT by some of his nuthuggers.
And oh yea, FLOYD IS RETIRED! Deal with it.
oSCAR/Pacman = 1.25 -1.5M PPPV
Oscar/Mayweather = 2.1M PPV
Oscar is in both fights, but 1 did better popularity wise. Based on that i think Floyd a lil more popular. Also How many of Pacman's fights have even had more than 400,000 PPV viewerships besides Oscar. i think Floyd prolly has more fame!!
Nowhere near the fame that pacquiao has. Floyd is an afterthought. Especially since his retirement hasn't really made anyone lose sleep. There is only one person that he has left to fight and that is Pac.
what was the PPV#s for De La hoya/Pacquaio again?
you are entitled to your opinion but i dont see anyone outhere right now better than him p4p. and his resume speaks for itself, a flyweight moving to welterweight. 5 weight champ henry armstrong accomplishment. thats a impressive resume, and thats what i mean about mayweather fans when you start comparing pac to pavlik.
i wasn't talking about accomplishments in different weight classes. i was talking about Hype. I can subjectively see what he is and that is a good fighter, but the best i don't think so.
i think alot of non boxing fans know floyd..dancing with the stars,wwf,hip hop
Nowhere near the fame that pacquiao has. Floyd is an afterthought. Especially since his retirement hasn't really made anyone lose sleep. There is only one person that he has left to fight and that is Pac.
How the F8ck is a champion at 112,122,126,130,135 then moved up to 147 and made Oscar QUIT , something that your boy PBF can only dream of doing ....a hype?
He beat a Oscar who hadn't seen 147 since damn near the 90's. let's be realistic, he a good fighter but losing to a out of his prime Morales and then beating him after his wars with Barrera and schooling by raheem. then he beat Barrera who was worn down, but still very game. and then he gets a draw with JMM after KOing 3 times in the 1st rd and never really convincingly beating him. this is our best fighter....what pure boxers have he faced, what slick fighters have he faced, what strong fighters have he faced. hatton is going his first fight not fighting a mexican style in i don't now when. This is our best fighter...no i think not. But he a good fighter though, I think he need to do some more before I give him title of king of the ring.
This hype of Pacman as of late is like the same thing that was going on with Pavlik. He is a good fighter and all, but he ain't our best fighter. Me personally, don't think we have one. In due time though, the luster of Pacman will come down to reality and he'll be seen for what he really is and that is a very good fighter, but he ain't our best.
you are entitled to your opinion but i dont see anyone outhere right now better than him p4p. and his resume speaks for itself, a flyweight moving to welterweight. 5 weight champ henry armstrong accomplishment. thats a impressive resume, and thats what i mean about mayweather fans when you start comparing pac to pavlik.
This hype of Pacman as of late is like the same thing that was going on with Pavlik. He is a good fighter and all, but he ain't our best fighter. Me personally, don't think we have one. In due time though, the luster of Pacman will come down to reality and he'll be seen for what he really is and that is a very good fighter, but he ain't our best.
How the F8ck is a champion at 112,122,126,130,135 then moved up to 147 and made Oscar QUIT , something that your boy PBF can only dream of doing ....a hype?
Get tha f*ck outta hea!
I have been a fan of both for a while, and i admired them both. however it seems to me that a lot of mayweather fans like to discredit his achievments, because he is getting more attention and recognition as p4p fighter. Is pacs success undermining floyd.
This hype of Pacman as of late is like the same thing that was going on with Pavlik. He is a good fighter and all, but he ain't our best fighter. Me personally, don't think we have one. In due time though, the luster of Pacman will come down to reality and he'll be seen for what he really is and that is a very good fighter, but he ain't our best.
i dont worship people like you..theirs only 1 GOD in my life johova
get a life and stop trolling..yuo joined this board only to speak of pacman..and if hatton beats him you'll suddenly just off the bandwagon and disapear you insuggnificant bastard
i think its jehova? is it allowed to speak bad words in your religion?
but if PACMAN wins, i dont wanna see your post again. retire just like flyod.
The large majority of people will always be on one side or the other on a fighter and have very little gray area to maneuver in.
What I mean is, while Pac's success doesn't directly undermine Floyd; the bulk of people who all ready hate PBF (for any reason) will try to bolster up Paquiao even more because it is a shot directly at Floyd. Then instead of rational discussion taking place it is simply just one more insult-fest revolving around the same 2 parties as always; just framed differently.
boxing guru to you bitch
gtg ... oooooooooh yes im the great pretender! pretend that im doing well..... loser! shit! dumbass! shithead! bitch! you are guru in those kind of words. wow!
you've got nothing to explain.
Mayweather is only known by boxing fans. Pacquiao is now known by the mainstream media after what happened in the DLH fight. Mayweather couldn't get the type of following after his DLH fight because it was such a boring fight and alot of "non hardcore" fans didn't think jabbing and slapping his way to a decision was anything special.
Pac is Pac and Floyd is Floyd...What does one have to do with the other...How is an active fighter undermining the success of retired one???
pacs success and popularity. pac defeated dlh in such a manner that it made mayweathers split decision win look average. pac is doing what mayweather did but better.
boxing guru to you bitch
look for yourself, you're no guru, just pretending to be one.
you're bitter, go home and retire just like your god -Floyd.
wwhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!