Kelly Pavlik, a "hype-job"?

I say he badly beats Hopkins in a rematch and has a better chance of giving Calzaghe a beatdown than Taylor or Dawson. :D

Pavlik ain't great, but he ain't a hype job either. He's just a good fighter.

Who hyped Kelly up to be a master boxer? The only hype I heard was that hes tough as nails and hits like a mule. From what I saw the Hopkins fight didnt change either one of those. He took his beating like a man and never landed a good punch to test how hard they were.

I wouldnt call it all Hype!!! Maybe he was hyped a little but the man is no joke!!!

During the fight hopkins trainer said it best, he hadnt faced some one with a jab and they allready making him a star, taylor didnt use his jab much againts pavlik. Black fighters and mexican fighters have been KOing people for years but they have not gotten the attention that pavlik has, Before the fight with hopkins i saw pavliks name in 4 ESPN show not even the golden boy has been able to do that in a while, was he hyped up yes, over hyped yeah maybe a bit to much to soon, but i think he will live up to it in the years to come you make a good point.

I don't know if you become a double world champion without beating anybody good.Ask Andre Burto, he managed to get his mitts on the WBC title without fighting anyone in the top 20 at WW...

Why are people calling Pavlik a "hype-job"? To point out the fact that he lost to a much older, fading great in Hopkins? To discredit Hopkins' win? To shit on Taylor because he lost twice to Pavlik? I think Pavlik has earned the praise that he's received. He beat the hell out of Edison Miranda, KO'd then Decisioned Taylor. I admit, I've not seen much other than highlights of Pavlik's previous fights, but he's got the makings of a superstar boxer, and he's earned the recognition. During the fight hopkins trainer said it best, he hadnt faced some one with a jab and they allready making him a star, taylor didnt use his jab much againts pavlik. Black fighters and mexican fighters have been KOing people for years but they have not gotten the attention that pavlik has, Before the fight with hopkins i saw pavliks name in 4 ESPN show not even the golden boy has been able to do that in a while, was he hyped up yes, over hyped yeah maybe a bit to much to soon, but i think he will live up to it in the years to come

You do if you're a super middleweight. You should get involved then.

No a hype job is someone who never beat anybody good like Jeff Lacy and Kessler. Pavlik is legit because he KO'D Taylor. I don't know if you become a double world champion without beating anybody good.

i agree, kelly is a overhyped bum :boxing: I didn't call him a bum, he was slightly overrated but that is about it.

He's a very good fighter; horribly matched against Hopkins. That match-up is the most foolish match-up of the year made by a promoter. That's including Amir Khan getting iced by an unknown Columbian.

i agree, kelly is a overhyped bum :boxing: than i can agree it's safe to say you know jack shit about the sport. thanks for pointing that out!:lame:

It's more of the way he lost, he didn't lose in a close battle. He lost every single round, atleast on my score-card against Hopkins. Even if Hopkins style was bad for pavlik, that is no way to lose to anyone. That loss was probably worse then what Calzaghe did to Lacy. And that fight showed alot of Kelly Pavlik's weaknesses, and actually shows a great blueprint for a fighter like abraham. Kelly had next to no head movements. not really a blue print for abraham. he fights nothing like bhop, and has no lateral movement to trouble pavlik.

It's the same shit that always happens on here. A fighter loses, then he's been "exposed as a hype job". Most people can't accept that in boxing, most of the time, one fighter has to lose. It's more of the way he lost, he didn't lose in a close battle. He lost every single round, atleast on my score-card against Hopkins. Even if Hopkins style was bad for pavlik, that is no way to lose to anyone. That loss was probably worse then what Calzaghe did to Lacy. And that fight showed alot of Kelly Pavlik's weaknesses, and actually shows a great blueprint for a fighter like abraham. Kelly had next to no head movements.

It's the same shit that always happens on here. A fighter loses, then he's been "exposed as a hype job". Most people can't accept that in boxing, most of the time, one fighter has to lose. exactly ..even a fighter as greay as bernard has lost 5 times ! whats to say kelly dont go on and defend the titles 20 more times like b hop did ? will he still be a hype job then ?? he was out of his weight and cmon it was bernard ****ing hopkins

At this point, i think we need to judge kelly on how he comes back... Hes still young, has alot of gas in the tank, maybe it was better to lose now to a guy like hopkins, he might turn out a better fighter in the long run because of it... WAR PAVLIK!

He's a hype job in terms of he wasn't on the level he was potrayed to be, however he's at least got some good names on his resume and is young enough to come back. Other Hypejobs at the moment: Tim Bradley, Andre Burto, Chad Dawson and Victor Ortiz. All have natural talent, it's hard to be a hypejob without natural talent. All have been put on a pedastal that could potentially kill their careers, Dawson has at least fought more than one decent fighter and to be fair his division is empty of anything remotely good (retiree's and 40 year old not withstanding) so he should be ok. Bradley Has fought 1 top 10 LWW Otriz has fought no top 10 LWW's Burto wasn't even touched anyone top 20. Yet two of them hold a belt... These kids could be exposed in any fight not because they aren't good but because they haven't fought the guys just under title level yet so it's impossible to tell if their skills/power etc will carry that extra class level. I hope that all three come through their next fights and become proven champions, but i fear at least one if not two will not. good post man - the bit where you said theres no hype without talent is spot on.

Why are people calling Pavlik a "hype-job"? To point out the fact that he lost to a much older, fading great in Hopkins? To discredit Hopkins' win? To shit on Taylor because he lost twice to Pavlik? I think Pavlik has earned the praise that he's received. He beat the hell out of Edison Miranda, KO'd then Decisioned Taylor. I admit, I've not seen much other than highlights of Pavlik's previous fights, but he's got the makings of a superstar boxer, and he's earned the recognition. He beat the best MW in the world twice. Obviously he's a hype job. Just like Taylor was. Actually Hopkins was too. Actually, when you think about it so was Hagler. Leonard was obviously overrated. The whole division is overrated really. The sport is nothing but hype. Retarded. Pavlik is a great fighter. Hopkins fought an incredible fight. Give both men their due.

A loss to Hopkins is a credit to anyone,he went the distance outside his weight.Now he can hit the gym and work on improving his technical skills and dominating his div.!!

He's a hype job in terms of he wasn't on the level he was potrayed to be, however he's at least got some good names on his resume and is young enough to come back. Other Hypejobs at the moment: Tim Bradley, Andre Burto, Chad Dawson and Victor Ortiz. All have natural talent, it's hard to be a hypejob without natural talent. All have been put on a pedastal that could potentially kill their careers, Dawson has at least fought more than one decent fighter and to be fair his division is empty of anything remotely good (retiree's and 40 year old not withstanding) so he should be ok. Bradley Has fought 1 top 10 LWW Otriz has fought no top 10 LWW's Burto wasn't even touched anyone top 20. Yet two of them hold a belt... These kids could be exposed in any fight not because they aren't good but because they haven't fought the guys just under title level yet so it's impossible to tell if their skills/power etc will carry that extra class level. I hope that all three come through their next fights and become proven champions, but i fear at least one if not two will not. I agree Witter was a bum.