If he won all the fights on his resume he would definitely be an all time great but to call him the greatest would depend on how he won the fights. Guys like Ray Robinson came back from unbelievable circumstances to show intangible qualities that are not seen in just any fight.
I dont think he would be undefeated ever. Even if he went 45-0 i think would have taken even harder fights down that line that would ruin his 0
if he beat hopkins he would have moved up to fight calzaghe and calzaghe would have destroyed him with his murderous punching power.
DLH has beaten 2 prime ATGs in JCC/ Pernell Whitaker (He really didn't win that) If he'd of beaten Mayweather/ Pacman/ B-Hop that would have been 5 ATGs
Then
Vargas
Strum
Mayorga
Tito
Ike
Is that better then SRL beating
Wilfred
Duran
Hagler
Hearns
?!
Who said anything about Leonard???
If had been undefeated....
i wouldn't rank him #1 cause then that rank him higher then Ray Robinson and "Homicide" Hank to name a few but I would haveta say top ten ATG easily. I'd have given him top ten atg if he would have beaten all his opponents in his prime (I consider Manny and floyd past prime).. Still had a great career
He'd be called Joe Calzaghe and then people say he is a fraud and stuff. Because that is the ignorant kind of posters we have on this forum.
You seriously comparing Joe's list of names to OLDH's? You got to be ****ing kidding me......
He probably be atleast Top 3 imo. Went Prime v Prime with the best.
De La Hoya losses look below and they are all arguably hall of fame fighters......
Trinidad(MD)
Mosley(SD)
Mosley(UD)
Hopkins(KO)
Mayweather(SD)
Paquiao(TKO)
Below is a list of the fighters he beat that are big names or title holders when he foguth them.....
Rafael Ruelas ~ IBF lightweight title ~
Jesse James Leija
Julio Cesar Chavez ~ WBC light welterweight title ~
Pernell Whitaker ~ WBC welterweight title ~
Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez
Ike Quartey
Oba Carr
Fernando Vargas ~ WBC light middleweight title ~ WBA light middleweight title ~ IBA Light Middleweight Title
Felix Sturm ~ WBO middleweight title ~
Ricardo Mayorga ~ WBC light middleweight title ~
I count 7 title holders and 3 hall of famers.....Lefty
He'd be called Joe Calzaghe and then people say he is a fraud and stuff. Because that is the ignorant kind of posters we have on this forum.
Behave son.
DLH has gone against the some of best boxers ever. Only idiots would call him "Fraud".
Calzaghe is rightfully called a fraud because...well.. he is a fraud.
DLH went Prime v Prime against Hopkins, Mayweather, Mosley, Pac, Trinidad, etc.
He has been the underdog on many occasions.
Calzaghe on the other hand has never gone into a fight as an underdog, and his best bouts Prime v Prime were against Kessler, possibly Lacy (who's career now shows what he is, nothing but a journeyman). That, quote frankly is disgraceful
If he went undefeated with the same people on his resume?
He'd be called Joe Calzaghe and then people say he is a fraud and stuff. Because that is the ignorant kind of posters we have on this forum.
he'd be number 1
B-hop
PBF
Trinidad
Pacquiao
Mosley twice
Whitaker
Quartey
Mayorga
Vargas
He also beat JCC 2 times.....Oba Carr was no slouch ..Hector Camacho Sr....and Jesse James Leija were all quality opponents.....Lefty