So I said Duran beat Ray Leonard, an all-time great in his prime, something Mayweather never accomplished.
This is the response I got:
diego corrales, jose luis castillo are atg and were in their prime. so please try harder you're making this too easy:trink26:
What is your opinion?
Brandish is one of the stupidest people to ever register on an internet forum. The guy is literally teeny bopper version of a boxing fan. fukk him and his aunt.
He is pretty funny sometimes, though only when he's not trying to be. Like when he said Kostya Tszyu wasn't on Hatton's level, or Duran should've fought RJJ or Hopkins if he was so great, etc. Plus his all black top 16 ATG list is pretty cool and he's made it his personal mission to argue against anyone else belonging there till his dying breath. Mayweather at #6 is pretty cool as well.
Im a big Floyd fan... but no, Castillo and Corrales are not ATG's, but they are potential hall of famers.
The only ATG that Floyd beat is Oscar, and he will only ever fight one more in Pacquiao, if they ever do fight.
Brandish is one of the stupidest people to ever register on an internet forum. The guy is literally teeny bopper version of a boxing fan. fukk him and his aunt.
I liked Castillo, he was a blood and guts warrior. But Im not sure I would pick him to beat one fighter on that list. You?
Well he did beat Mayweather. :boxing:
i really wouldn't consider them first ballot hall of famer's, maybe somewhere in the halls there is a place for them and their stats, but one thing is for sure, their first fight is DEFINITELY a hall of fame worthy fight, first ballot! for sure..... you can't deny that.
I think to much emphasis is put on fighters fighting ATG's. It is very rare for fighters to actually have other ATG's in and around their weight class. That is why Ray Leonard, Hearns, Hagler and those guys era is looked at with great pride. That was a great era in boxing. Now who in PBF's era in and around his weight classes in their primes were ATG's? The only person who I can think of right now is Pacman and he just recently put himself into that discussion. IMO it is not a stamped fact that Pacman is a ATG.
Yes I am a big PBF fan but admit I wish Cotto, Margarito could have brought PBF the money he wanted for those fights. PBF's career opposition IMO is slight above average and it could have been better. I will not place complete blame on any fighter for certain fights not happening.
To answer the thread question no they are no ATG but they were top tier fighters when PBF fought and beat them.
Past LW champions:
Joe Gans
Benny Leonard
Tony Canzoneri
Barney Ross
Lou Ambers
Henry Armstrong
Sammy Angott
Ike Williams
Beau Jack
Jimmy Carter
Joe Brown
Carlos Ortiz
Ismael Laguna
Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran
Esteban DeJesus
Alexis Arguello
Edwin Rosario
Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosley
Floyd Mayweather
Castillo would surely be ranked over some of the names because he had a better resume at the weight but I'm not sure where.
I liked Castillo, he was a blood and guts warrior. But Im not sure I would pick him to beat one fighter on that list. You?
No chance, good fighters and good wins for Floyd but they had never beaten another ATG. They hadn't had long runs as champ or dominated their divisions etc.
i dont know whats the big deal.. man.. castillo HOF PERFORMANCE WAS his first loss to mayweather...... and his epic brain damager fights with corrales....
there are plenty of boxer who have achieve more and are not HOF...
thats my HO
Castillo is an ATG Lightweight, take a look at past LW champions, Duran, Arguello, Pernell Whitaker,Chavez, Frietas, Casamayor
Castillo makes the list of ATG LW's, overall though he didnt do enough to be considered an ATG in all of boxing
Past LW champions:
Joe Gans
Benny Leonard
Tony Canzoneri
Barney Ross
Lou Ambers
Henry Armstrong
Sammy Angott
Ike Williams
Beau Jack
Jimmy Carter
Joe Brown
Carlos Ortiz
Ismael Laguna
Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran
Esteban DeJesus
Alexis Arguello
Edwin Rosario
Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosley
Floyd Mayweather
Castillo would surely be ranked over some of the names because he had a better resume at the weight but I'm not sure where.
I take dick riding very seriously.
So, not a single person who has voted 'yes' in the poll has posted why they voted yes???
Why hasnt Brandish explained his statement?QUOTE]
nobody can have arguments for that shit! :rofl: ride or die!!!!!
everybody knows that brandish's hobbie is to ride in floyds dick....
you shouldn take him that seriously ! :boxing:
I take dick riding very seriously.
So, not a single person who has voted 'yes' in the poll has posted why they voted yes???
Why hasnt Brandish explained his statement?
why is that.. when you die.. suddenly everything normal... become spectacular???
im talking about http://blog.news-record.com/staff/culture/Culture%20Shock%20-%20The%20Joker-thumb.jpg..... :nonono:
So I said Duran beat Ray Leonard, an all-time great in his prime, something Mayweather never accomplished.
This is the response I got:
What is your opinion?
everybody knows that brandish's hobbie is to ride in floyds dick....
you shouldn take him that seriously ! :boxing: