If boxing rules were modifed and referees never broke clinches and allowed fighters to infight from the clinch for as long as they were capable regardless of how dirty the fighter initiating the clinch may fight...
And if they did away with the 10 count and the only way the fight gets stopped is by actual knockout, allowing downed fighters to be hit while they are down but also given the opportunity to defend themselves while they are down.
Would boxing's elite still be the elite under these rules?? Or would you get a different cast of characters more adept at the different skillset needed??
Well, boxing as a sport and MMA as a sport are different, you can't compare the amount of technical skill it needs, because both require different sets of skills. However, boxing is a much tougher sport in terms of competition, and making it big, there is MUCH more competition in boxing than there is in MMA, because there is much more boxers than UFC/Pride fighters.
it's like....
A = one razor sharp pencil in one color
B = a set of unsharpened pencils in different colors
Most MMA fighters have a strength. Some are wrestlers, some are Muay Thai fighters, some are Jiu Jitsu players.
Using your analogy, I would argue that most MMA fighters have one razor sharp pencil, along with other other semi-sharp pencils in different colors.
Of course, fighters have strengths and weaknesses. One fighter might be great on his feet, and not so good on the ground. That fighter would most likely opt to keep things standing.
Obviously.
^Exactly.
And LOL @ some of you who have never even stepped in a boxing ring, let alone done any MMA training, speaking on which is technically more difficult.
Please, I have trained both, I'm not a pro by any means, but obviously MMA having much more elements and in effect ways to lose, is much more difficult in that respect.
Not saying that boxing isn't technical. But its one element.
All you have to worry about is hands.
^ I welcome any of you to try and dispute this fact.
Actually, the point i was trying to make is that at 1 point in history boxing it pretty much was mma. And that was exactly the way i described my thread topic. And that the idiots that think it's an mma fan bashing boxing thread is not really a boxing fan at all because they do not know boxing's history.
fizzle has a point there. but it is 2 diff sports now. enjoy both
^Exactly.
And LOL @ some of you who have never even stepped in a boxing ring, let alone done any MMA training, speaking on which is technically more difficult.
Please, I have trained both, I'm not a pro by any means, but obviously MMA having much more elements and in effect ways to lose, is much more difficult in that respect.
Not saying that boxing isn't technical. But its one element.
All you have to worry about is hands.
^ I welcome any of you to try and dispute this fact.
Y'all be forgettin the history of boxing. In the days of the great John L. Sullivan boxing pretty much MMA. Their stances with their arms held out was to defend against takedowns. In bare knuckle boxing downed fighters would often get their legs broken from being stomped on by their opponents. The only question i asked was simply if the rules were modified in the way i stated. Would boxing's elite still be boxing's best or would a new crop of fighters emerge as standouts?? This is not a boxing vs mma thread
it's like....
A = one razor sharp pencil in one color
B = a set of unsharpened pencils in different colors
I like the way you put it.Also boxing is the gentlemen sport so no hitting a downed opponent.Most mma fighters are a jack of all trades they are not elite good at any one thing but they know enough to be competitive against like competition.
Boxing is far more technical and requires more skill.
All one has to do is watch last nights championship UFC card to determine the extreme class difference in talent and ability by champions from each respective sport.
TS is bitter bc he ordered the Holy-Valuev fight and UFC 92. so one was way better than the other. I think you are a teenager on holiday vacation to start some old shit like this.
when i say it is more technical than MMA, im stating that the ART practiced is more perfected in a specialized sport than a sport where multiple diciplines is allowed.
Let's say you have Fighters A and B. Both have no fight or dicipline experience at all.
A goes to a boxing gym to learn boxing.
B goes to an MMA gym to learn MMA.
A will solely practice boxing technique for the rest of his career.
B will learn various styles including grappling, BJJ, boxing and kicking
Because A only has to learn one style, he will be able to perfect what he practices
Because B has to learn various styles, he will NOT be able to perfect what he practices
If B is placed in the ring with a wrestler, or a boxer or a kickboxer and only allowed to practice each respective dicipline, he will most likely be beat.
it's like....
A = one razor sharp pencil in one color
B = a set of unsharpened pencils in different colors
when i say it is more technical than MMA, im stating that the ART practiced is more perfected in a specialized sport than a sport where multiple diciplines is allowed.
Let's say you have Fighters A and B. Both have no fight or dicipline experience at all.
A goes to a boxing gym to learn boxing.
B goes to an MMA gym to learn MMA.
A will solely practice boxing technique for the rest of his career.
B will learn various styles including grappling, BJJ, boxing and kicking
Because A only has to learn one style, he will be able to perfect what he practices
Because B has to learn various styles, he will NOT be able to perfect what he practices
If B is placed in the ring with a wrestler, or a boxer or a kickboxer and only allowed to practice each respective dicipline, he will most likely be beat.
then it wouldn't be boxing would it??
thread starter = dumb
How would that not be boxing??? You'd still only be able to punch. Just allowed to fight from the clinch and finish your downed opponents.
Under these rules....hypothetically Ricky Hatton woulda the crap out of Mayweather.
Under these rules.....hypothetically Pacquiao would have gotten a chance to finish Marquez in the 1st round.
That said....Under these rules....it would probably be Hopkins and Hatton as 1 and 2 p4p in my opinion.