Is Haye Vitali’s toughest opponent?

no wat lewis was and vital ****ed him up no matter what ur vagine leads u 2 believe

Yeah but Sanders always had dreadful stamina. The Vitali jab is a big weapon but you can also use it to your advantage. All of Vitali's work comes off the jab if you can make him miss or neutralize the jab he wont be able to setup any off his work, but its very difficult to do as its an excellent jab, i don't think Haye is good enough to do that but who knows till they fight. The only way for Haye to have a good shot at Vitali IMO, is to start pressuring him from the first minute and hope that Vitali will get tired/injured. If Haye lets Vitali use his jab from a distance, it's all over.

The problem that most people overlook, is Vitali's jab. Once he times his opponents (usually first round), he completely destroys their game and makes them look awkward and tired. Every opponent Vitali faced, looked horrible/old/washed/never that good/out of shape. Circle one for Sanders, Williams, Johnson, Peter, Lewis - everybody looked out of order one way or another. The truth is, it's Vitali who makes them look that way. Haye will be no exception, once Vitali times Haye, his jab will destroy his game immediately. Yes, but Haye is no Dempsey Yeah but Sanders always had dreadful stamina. The Vitali jab is a big weapon but you can also use it to your advantage. All of Vitali's work comes off the jab if you can make him miss or neutralize the jab he wont be able to setup any off his work, but its very difficult to do as its an excellent jab, i don't think Haye is good enough to do that but who knows till they fight.

Since Vitali lost to Lewis i think Haye is probably Vitali's hardest opponent. His 4 fights since then have been against Kirk Johnson who came in over weight, Corrie Sanders who despite having good hand speed and power was badly out of shape due to training on the golf course and after the first round was tired, Danny Williams who came in over weight and was never good enough or quick enough to beat Vitali and then there was Peter who was overweight and to slow to beat Vitali. Outside of Sanders who if had trained might have had a chance I think Haye is much better than all off those fighters and if his chin can hold up which is the big question he would be the first since Lewis to give Vitali some trouble. After Vitali's long layoff there are still question marks over him, can he handle the speed off Haye does he still have the stamina to go a full 12 rounds while in a tough fight has he still got his punch resistance. Most people think Vitali will win easy but i don’t think it will be as easy as its made out and Haye has a solid chance. Klitschko's best strategy is to pressure him for 12 rounds. Will Haye be man enough to overcome it? That remains to be seen.

Hell no. Lennox by far.

Sanders did actually hurt Vitali but Haye can at least go 8 rounds at a fairly high pace Sanders has never been able to go more than a couple of rounds without getting tired. Plus despite what many people now say Sanders had a reputation for most off his career off having a glass jaw. The problem that most people overlook, is Vitali's jab. Once he times his opponents (usually first round), he completely destroys their game and makes them look awkward and tired. Every opponent Vitali faced, looked horrible/old/washed/never that good/out of shape. Circle one for Sanders, Williams, Johnson, Peter, Lewis - everybody looked out of order one way or another. The truth is, it's Vitali who makes them look that way. Haye will be no exception, once Vitali times Haye, his jab will destroy his game immediately. Jack Dempsey 187lb vs Jess Willard 245lb Willard had a style very much like Vitali's and Dempsey utterly destroyed him not saying that will happen but the smaller guy has a chance if he fights the right fight. Yes, but Haye is no Dempsey

Is that all your argument is, every thread about a klit v haye, you say the same old shit, nothing new, no originality, if you can't expand on it, zip it, we heard your view a thousand times now, your like a parrot that knows only one sentence. yes haye, himself also, knows he does not possess a granite chin, and maybe he cant go hell for leather for twelve rounds, which heavyweight can. His training and fight strategy has changed and evolved since those early days. the kilits were fighting no marks at the same stage of their careers when haye took that fight. Thompson was tough fight for anyone, former world and european champion, past prime but still tough , for somone with only 10 pro fights. Haye learned from that fight and has now learned to box at a better pace and has gone into the latter rounds i.e the 8th, 9th and the 12th round. You post like haye still that same fighter, thats like sayin wlad the same fighter now, as he was agaisnt brewster and sanders and we know thats not the case. He's a better boxer but takes less risks. Your a one dimensional poster, with a one dimensional arguement who cant get past being the klits little groupie. i am a haye fan, i know he no atg , but vitalli apart from a great chin, not oliver mccall class chin is no atg neither. Both can bang, one has a better chin, but speed is the best weapon in the boxing armoury which favours haye. vitalli will rightfully start a good favourite, but haye is dangerous as hell, and that alone makes this fight exciting. there is no point in posting that they wont listen.

Haye has a glass chin and poor stamina Just watch this video, Haye needed an oxygen mask after he got KTFO in 5 rounds by shot 41 year old Carl Thompson lol. Is that all your argument is, every thread about a klit v haye, you say the same old shit, nothing new, no originality, if you can't expand on it, zip it, we heard your view a thousand times now, your like a parrot that knows only one sentence. yes haye, himself also, knows he does not possess a granite chin, and maybe he cant go hell for leather for twelve rounds, which heavyweight can. His training and fight strategy has changed and evolved since those early days. the kilits were fighting no marks at the same stage of their careers when haye took that fight. Thompson was tough fight for anyone, former world and european champion, past prime but still tough , for somone with only 10 pro fights. Haye learned from that fight and has now learned to box at a better pace and has gone into the latter rounds i.e the 8th, 9th and the 12th round. You post like haye still that same fighter, thats like sayin wlad the same fighter now, as he was agaisnt brewster and sanders and we know thats not the case. He's a better boxer but takes less risks. Your a one dimensional poster, with a one dimensional arguement who cant get past being the klits little groupie. i am a haye fan, i know he no atg , but vitalli apart from a great chin, not oliver mccall class chin is no atg neither. Both can bang, one has a better chin, but speed is the best weapon in the boxing armoury which favours haye. vitalli will rightfully start a good favourite, but haye is dangerous as hell, and that alone makes this fight exciting.

I would just love how the vitali/wlad fans would use Haye's name to big up Vitali's resume after vitali KO Haye, Then we would hear how Haye was great but Vitali was just too great. I agree, you'd think they would want to legitimise him as an opponent, because it's the only superfight either of the Klits are going to get. If Klitschko hasn't got Haye out of there in 3 or 4 rounds, the only logical conclusion is he is getting beaten up himself. I'd be a bit cautious if I was a Vitali fan, he should chin Haye, but we haven't seen the speed disparity yet. That's the thing, we never know that until they fight. What if Haye is that much faster. If he isn't much faster, he is getting KTFO without a shadow of a doubt. But, we don't know yet! Who'd have though Cotto was as fast as Mosley, or that Hopkins at 43 was THAT much faster than Pavlik, etc.

I would just love how the vitali/wlad fans would use Haye's name to big up Vitali's resume after vitali KO Haye, Then we would hear how Haye was great but Vitali was just too great.

Vitali has faced a lot of tougher opponents than Haye: Lewis Donald (had never been stopped or down previously) Johnson (had never been stopped or down previously) Peter (never before been stopped) Purrity Hoffmann (had never been down) Sanders Mahone (had never been defeated or down previously) Bean (had never been stopped or down previously) Heck, I think even Danny Williams in his prime was tougher than David Haye! :lol1: Only Lewis is any good out of them, and we saw what happened there didn't we....

Hayeis going to smash Vitali to pieces. vitali has NEVER beaten anyone worth shit.

this will be the first superheavyweight vs cruiserweight fight rotfl .. will it end up being goliath chasing david all aorund the ring ? lol Jack Dempsey 187lb vs Jess Willard 245lb Willard had a style very much like Vitali's and Dempsey utterly destroyed him not saying that will happen but the smaller guy has a chance if he fights the right fight.

LOL Vitali could walk through this with his eyes closed. Haye is nothing compared to Vitali. Vitali didn't exactly lose to Lennox. That said, Haye is No Lennox and never will be.

yup :fing02:....the truth is bein' drowned by the hype! Vitali admitted openly that he had problems with the slick southpaw Chris Byrd....Sanders didn't pose any threat because he fights like 6 o'clock....str8 up and down while Gomez is a lil' more slick wit it.....Vitali doesn't like southpaws with a boxing IQ.....simple! I don't know Sanders did cause Vitali some trouble he is one of the few guys to ever hurt Vitali but his utterly awful conditioning let him down in that fight. He did well for the one round he could move in.

Haye has a glass chin and poor stamina Just watch this video, Haye needed an oxygen mask after he got KTFO by shot 41 year old Carl Thompson lol. That was ages ago, i believe that Haye is better than any off Vitali's opponents since Lewis. Sanders had the natural talent to be very good but he wasted it with poor training and terrible conditioning.

Juan Carlos Gomez the man who earned the right to fight Vitali would give Vitali more trouble than Haye would. yup :fing02:....the truth is bein' drowned by the hype! Vitali admitted openly that he had problems with the slick southpaw Chris Byrd....Sanders didn't pose any threat because he fights like 6 o'clock....str8 up and down while Gomez is a lil' more slick wit it.....Vitali doesn't like southpaws with a boxing IQ.....simple!

Haye has a glass chin and poor stamina Just watch this video, Haye needed an oxygen mask after he got KTFO in 5 rounds by shot 41 year old Carl Thompson lol. David Haye wanted rematch against against the old timer too...

Juan Carlos Gomez the man who earned the right to fight Vitali would give Vitali more trouble than Haye would. Maybe Gomez is a good fighter but he tends to push his punches some what and doesn't have the same snap, but yeah Gomez would be a tough fight for anyone.

a cruiserweight no well compared to Sanders, Williams, Peter and Kirk Johnson the best Cruiserweight is better than those fighters.