He's got a great jab, power and right hand. He is just overlooked because of his kind personality and the fact he isn't American.
Yes, Haye is exciting and is a laugh with his personality but really... Wlad is a good enough fighter, we don't need to be "saved" we just need matches to happen in the Heavyweight division which Wlad is getting done now. I think Wladimir would be a champion in any era.
The Primo Carnera comparisons are ridiculous.
So from what I am hearing from the euro-haters is that since Wlad is so dominating, KO'ing #1 ranked (some undefeated) contenders, that he only fights bums?
Or that he's boring?
What a joke. I think your euro-hate is showing.
Wladimir Klitchko -
52 and 3 with 46 KO's
Wlad is already better than...
Mike Tyson -
50 and 6 with 44 KO's
Wlad is on the way to being better than...
Muhammed Ali -
56 and 5 with 37 KO's
Time will tell if Wlad is better than...
Joe Louis -
65 and 3 with 51 KO's
Nobody will probably ever be better than...
Rocky Marciano -
49 and 0 with 43 KO's
The great champions of the past earned their titles. Klitschko got it by knockout bums who didn't put up a fight.
So from what I am hearing from the euro-haters is that since Wlad is so dominating, KO'ing #1 ranked (some undefeated) contenders, that he only fights bums?
Or that he's boring?
What a joke. I think your euro-hate is showing.
Wladimir Klitchko -
52 and 3 with 46 KO's
Wlad is already better than...
Mike Tyson -
50 and 6 with 44 KO's
Wlad is on the way to being better than...
Muhammed Ali -
56 and 5 with 37 KO's
Time will tell if Wlad is better than...
Joe Louis -
65 and 3 with 51 KO's
Nobody will probably ever be better than...
Rocky Marciano -
49 and 0 with 43 KO's
:lol1::lol1::lol1: are you serious?
So from what I am hearing from the euro-haters is that since Wlad is so dominating, KO'ing #1 ranked (some undefeated) contenders, that he only fights bums?
Or that he's boring?
What a joke. I think your euro-hate is showing.
Wladimir Klitchko -
52 and 3 with 46 KO's
Wlad is already better than...
Mike Tyson -
50 and 6 with 44 KO's
Wlad is on the way to being better than...
Muhammed Ali -
56 and 5 with 37 KO's
Time will tell if Wlad is better than...
Joe Louis -
65 and 3 with 51 KO's
Nobody will probably ever be better than...
Rocky Marciano -
49 and 0 with 43 KO's
is ricky trying to score green K with this thread?
On a side note. he's great at what he does, but he has no fighting heart and can't break down a fighter when his jab-right combo isn't quite working, his size is his big strength. He's certainly no Carnera that's for sure but no top 10 great either. His brother is better.
DavrosPremuleas,
???
The Byrd II fight was awesome,
The Brock fight was awesome,
The Austin fight was super awesome (A one handed KO!!!)
The Brewster fight could have been better if Brewster wasn't such a pussy.
(What is it about certain HW's that make them such pussies when fighting the brothers Klitchko? Sam Peter "rabbitt" wussed out too... Subject for another thread I guess)
Sultan is a very good fighter, so the fight was a good tactical display, but I guess I could see how it wasn't all that entertaining.
Thompson fight was good!, unless you are bored by KO's...
Rahman was another good fight, unless you are bored by TKO's
So what is your real problem with Wlad? Only one out of seven of his last fights could really be called "boring".
the 2nd Byrd fight was ok, but the Brock fight had no action in it at all for 5-6 rounds then Wlad landed 1 big punch and it was over. Thompson and Rahman fights were not good go and watch some pre 00's heavyweight fights.
He's got a great jab, power and right hand. He is just overlooked because of his kind personality and the fact he isn't American.
Yes, Haye is exciting and is a laugh with his personality but really... Wlad is a good enough fighter, we don't need to be "saved" we just need matches to happen in the Heavyweight division which Wlad is getting done now. I think Wladimir would be a champion in any era.
The Primo Carnera comparisons are ridiculous.
Is Wladimir Klitschko the best in the world? In a world full of bums it would appear that he is the best of them.
He faces bums all the time and is boring to watch. Put him in the ring with a half decent heavyweight and he will get KO'ed. No way he would survive when the Heavyweight scene was thriving.Who should he be fighting?
DavrosPremuleas,
???
The Byrd II fight was awesome,
The Brock fight was awesome,
The Austin fight was super awesome (A one handed KO!!!)
The Brewster fight could have been better if Brewster wasn't such a pussy.
(What is it about certain HW's that make them such pussies when fighting the brothers Klitchko? Sam Peter "rabbitt" wussed out too... Subject for another thread I guess)
Sultan is a very good fighter, so the fight was a good tactical display, but I guess I could see how it wasn't all that entertaining.
Thompson fight was good!, unless you are bored by KO's...
Rahman was another good fight, unless you are bored by TKO's
So what is your real problem with Wlad? Only one out of seven of his last fights could really be called "boring".
Ibragimov, Rahman and Thompson fights were boring. He used to be fun to watch when he let his hands go. Nowadays it's just jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, occasional right hand. He is afraid of getting KO'ed because he's been KO'ed 3 times. Now he is just safe and it's painful to watch. Also he doesn't fight anyone who has a chance of beating him.
DavrosPremuleas,
???
The Byrd II fight was awesome,
The Brock fight was awesome,
The Austin fight was super awesome (A one handed KO!!!)
The Brewster fight could have been better if Brewster wasn't such a pussy.
(What is it about certain HW's that make them such pussies when fighting the brothers Klitchko? Sam Peter "rabbitt" wussed out too... Subject for another thread I guess)
Sultan is a very good fighter, so the fight was a good tactical display, but I guess I could see how it wasn't all that entertaining.
Thompson fight was good!, unless you are bored by KO's...
Rahman was another good fight, unless you are bored by TKO's
So what is your real problem with Wlad? Only one out of seven of his last fights could really be called "boring".
He faces bums all the time and is boring to watch. Put him in the ring with a half decent heavyweight and he will get KO'ed. No way he would survive when the Heavyweight scene was thriving.
Actually, he's overrated. Who has he beaten to warrant his reputation? Same applies to his brother. Neither have EVER beaten anyone with a pulse compared to heavyweights of old. I'n not hating on them, it aint their fault the heavyweights are all shit, but it's true I'm afraid.
How about nearly everyone he faced and everyone he's needed to fight?
Actually, he's overrated. Who has he beaten to warrant his reputation? Same applies to his brother. Neither have EVER beaten anyone with a pulse compared to heavyweights of old. I'n not hating on them, it aint their fault the heavyweights are all shit, but it's true I'm afraid.
The big problem for Wlad is that his fights have been dull ever since the loss to Brewster. Brock, Thompson, Sultan, Rahman, Brewster 2 were all dull fights even considering the KO's. He is hard to beat with a good jab but since Stewart has taken over him he is dull to watch, people say sport is about winning but for spectators they care more about being entertained.
Who compared him to Primo Carnera?
Wladimir is one of if not the best Heavyweight in the world. He just needs someone that can bring the best out of him, and as far as I can see so far only his brother can do that. But we know that won't happen.
He is either the best fighter or second best fighter in boxing overall right now. Not sure if I would put him ahead of Vitali.
Note: Overall means without weight-limits and who is the King of the Mountain. That's what the HW Champ is: The King. The others below 200 have to put "P4P" before their names to give them some credit like they are "equal."