"Jesse Owens couldn't even make the Olympic team today. It's the same with boxing. I always just look at Joe Louis, I say, You know what, he kind of slow. I'd tear him up.
People say, Joe Louis had twenty-five consecutive wins as a champion. That's because they didn't have videotape. You couldn't pick up his style unless you was in there with him."
http://www.esquire.com/features/what-ive-learned/evander-holyfield-quotes-0109?src=digg
This was a recent interview too (October 29, 2008). Anyone agree?
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It's not a problem. You're comparing two different epochs, nothing wrong with that. The wrong is when you say tha holy or joshua would have mop the floor with Joe Louis. Be safe.
I said your joe which is fiction doesn't have any missing techniques and isn't slow and stiff
your right for you fiction joe he beats both and he beats others in the 70s-90s
I have asked you people since last year youtube here and the main forum site to prove me wrong by video they wont show me the fiction joe that you and others talk on
All I get is the joe which I told you which is on video and he shows all I said he has wrong and he would be destroyed which is in fact the joe that i talk on only which is the only one that matters to me
Unless you like the rest failed and still fail to do and thats show me the fiction joe in action I wont never say the real joe which is like i said on video would beat any mid/high level 70s-90s
cause im not talking about your fiction joe so no im not wrong and you cant make me look at the fiction from words and madeup skills and the joe that did exist joe as the same cause their not so im not wrong and never will be for my joe
now for you fiction joe yea im wrong
Well what is the problem why keep saying I'm wrong where
It's not a problem. You're comparing two different epochs, nothing wrong with that. The wrong is when you say tha holy or joshua would have mop the floor with Joe Louis. Be safe.
Don't waste your time, trust me.
Yea support a brainwashed crazy follower who thinks he can control how I talk your crazy just like him you seen the idiot didnt have any real response to what I said
Should have told the crazy person to not say anything to me at all
You're wrong, I haven't say or write, that this dude, or another dude from the 30's could beat evander nor any other dude.
Well what is the problem why keep saying I'm wrong where
I said why cant we drop him how he was with no new methods and training i already argeed days ago to jab and silence earlier their talking on a fiction joe that has the advanced movement and isn't slow and is heavier then vid shows
My joe Is on video and has missing advances and is stiff and slow and was the weights on video shown so no my ver of joe loses to the people I said he would
I have no problem with all the dudes you said being beat by the fiction joe but my joe like I said doesnt have what it takes to beat those dudes
You're wrong, I haven't say or write, that this dude, or another dude from the 30's could beat evander nor any other dude.
Read, you're wrong and whoever is comparing those eras predicting who will win, are wrong.
I said why cant we drop him how he was with no new methods and training i already argeed days ago to jab and silence earlier their talking on a fiction joe that has the advanced movement and isn't slow and is heavier then vid shows
My joe Is on video and has missing advances and is stiff and slow and was the weights on video shown so no my ver of joe loses to the people I said he would
I have no problem with all the dudes you said being beat by the fiction joe but my joe like I said doesnt have what it takes to beat those dudes
Your still the dumb one and I dont have to learn anything the word you meant was use not learn since its nothing to learn you
You can try to force somebody else to talk/text/speak how you want them to im not your kid and im not in school even in school i talked how i wanted if I wanted to I could use all caps would that be wrong to since you think its a so called correct way to so called speak/talk/text your out of your depth trying to insult me see how your mind is to simple and brainwashed to ever think those type of insults work with a person like me
If I spoke how you thought was so called correct I still would insult you so what difference does it make you still would be a idiot and crazy or i can chose to insult you in a sophisticated manner or in a proper manner see how that works your whatever i call you
:rofl::dunce: Sit down clown. You’re out of your depth.
How am I wrong cause they always say here that joe could beat a ali or a fury people he never fought in style and movement why can't he just be dropped in why can't we drop him like he was with no new training and no new methods used whats the problem with it
Read, you're wrong and whoever is comparing those eras predicting who will win, are wrong.
Your point is wrong. You're suggesting to drop Julius Cesar and his legions in the middle of WWII, or better yet, pick a fight with the USA.
How am I wrong cause they always say here that joe could beat a ali or a fury people he never fought in style and movement why can't he just be dropped in why can't we drop him like he was with no new training and no new methods used whats the problem with it
No I dont get the point cause it doesn't work with me my point is bringing those dudes and dropping them like they were in the 70s-90s no new methods use nothing at all see how they do my visual of seeing all eras and many boxers is those in Joe's era would be destroyed
Your point is wrong. You're suggesting to drop Julius Cesar and his legions in the middle of WWII, or better yet, pick a fight with the USA.
You're still missing the point. Is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Do you see the point? Back them, they didn't have the same technique, diet and equipment we have today, sport medicine wasn't around, smoking was at is peak just like alcohol. They were natural born athletes. Did you get the point now? Can't compare.
No I dont get the point cause it doesn't work with me my point is bringing those dudes and dropping them like they were in the 70s-90s no new methods use nothing at all see how they do my visual of seeing all eras and many boxers is those in Joe's era would be destroyed
When I can be proven by video of being wrong which I never have and never will then you have no point
You're still missing the point. Is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Do you see the point? Back them, they didn't have the same technique, diet and equipment we have today, sport medicine wasn't around, smoking was at is peak just like alcohol. They were natural born athletes. Did you get the point now? Can't compare.
Learn some basic grammar and spelling, then come back and talk to me about who the dumb one is, troll.
Your still the dumb one and I dont have to learn anything the word you meant was use not learn since its nothing to learn you
You can try to force somebody else to talk/text/speak how you want them to im not your kid and im not in school even in school i talked how i wanted if I wanted to I could use all caps would that be wrong to since you think its a so called correct way to so called speak/talk/text your out of your depth trying to insult me see how your mind is to simple and brainwashed to ever think those type of insults work with a person like me
If I spoke how you thought was so called correct I still would insult you so what difference does it make you still would be a idiot and crazy or i can chose to insult you in a sophisticated manner or in a proper manner see how that works your whatever i call you
Yea and joe could do that cause he fought trash had he been in the ring with real skilled boxers he wouldnt so what's your point with that dumb quote
Learn some basic grammar and spelling, then come back and talk to me about who the dumb one is, troll.
I see so it advances like I always say huh cause they always say that Louis is the most skilled yet he stugggled with people 70s-90s fighters wouldn't and joe was missing advances they had
cause I can drop late 80s-
90s early-mid holy and all of these versions of him will run through that trash era and never would he stuggle or be beat unlike joe who they say was the most skilled yet missing mutiple advances holy had and the people he fought
You're missing the point.
How would today’s HW’s like getting hit with 6 oz. Gloves over 15 rounds? At his peak Louis fought 4-6 times per year, not two. Would Holyfield be using steroids as he did most of his career?
Yea and joe could do that cause he fought trash had he been in the ring with real skilled boxers he wouldnt so what's your point with that dumb quote
How would today’s HW’s like getting hit with 6 oz. Gloves over 15 rounds? At his peak Louis fought 4-6 times per year, not two. Would Holyfield be using steroids as he did most of his career?