At the end of 2008, who do you consider to be the man in each weight division?
Heavyweight: Klitschkos
Crusierweight: Adamek
Light Heavyweight: Calzaghe
Super Middleweight: Kessler
Middleweight: Abraham
Light Middleweight: Martinez
Welterweight: Margarito
Light Welterweight: Hatton
Lightweight: JMM
Super Featherweight: Soto
Super Bantamweight: Vasquez
Super Flyweight: Darchinyan
At the end of 2008, who do you consider to be the man in each weight division?
Heavyweight: Klitschkos
Crusierweight: Adamek
Light Heavyweight: Calzaghe
Super Middleweight: Kessler
Middleweight: Abraham
Light Middleweight: Martinez
Welterweight: Margarito
Light Welterweight: Hatton
Lightweight: JMM
Super Featherweight: Soto
Super Bantamweight: Vasquez
Super Flyweight: Darchinyan
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so the present #1 p4p fighter in the world isnt the best in any division. ok cool just checking! lol
what the initial poster was trying to do was make a list that excluded black fighters
That never occurred to me when I was posting my list, and it seems other people have similar lists. Why is race so important to you? Why not just choose the best regardless?
What about featherweight down? Why stop at 130?
I honestly don't know enough about those divisions to form a good opinion.
I was hoping some of you guys would be able to pick the best in the smaller weight divisions, though.
I think Darchinyan is the man at 115, and Vasquev probably is at 122. But I know nothing whatsoever about strawweight.
I like Dawson, I just wasn't that impressed with him in his fight against Johnson, and I still think Adamek was weight drained. I expected him to beat Tarver, maybe not as one sided, but I need to see more of him before I'd put him over Calzaghe. But you're right, Joe might already be retired, and if he's not, he's probably just interested in big money fights at this point.
don't get me wrong calzaghe legacy wise is greater than chad and probably always will be......but chad has youth on his side.
joe is no spring chicken.
I'll put Manny as the best lightweight/Jr.WW after the Hatton fight.... Nobody gives JJM credits for beating past prime and shot Casamayor except xcaret and Ferocity...
Pacquiao has fought a lightweight who wasn't the best, and a welterweight who wasn't the best in his last two fights. So although he is #1 p4p, he hasn't established himself as the best in any single weight division.
However, if he beats Hatton on May 2, Pacquiao will clearly be the man at 140.
I guess, but if not for the mistake of one judge, Pac would be 2-0 against JMM, as close as those fights might have been. Obviously you can't rank him at WW yet, but I'd still put him ahead of JMM at LW.
i didn't leave pacquiao out.
it's weird because i went with only the 8 original weight classes.
i counted lopez at featherweight and pacquiao at lightweight.
i think dawson beats calzaghe tbh. doesn't matter i think joe is retired now.
I like Dawson, I just wasn't that impressed with him in his fight against Johnson, and I still think Adamek was weight drained. I expected him to beat Tarver, maybe not as one sided, but I need to see more of him before I'd put him over Calzaghe. But you're right, Joe might already be retired, and if he's not, he's probably just interested in big money fights at this point.
Pac still has a title at 135 doesn't he?
yeah.
he had to pay the wbc for the oscar fight. a NON-title , NON-WBC sanctioned fight.
the orgs are all crooks......
One of you left out Pacquiao and the other Calzaghe. Interesting.
i didn't leave pacquiao out.
it's weird because i went with only the 8 original weight classes.
i counted lopez at featherweight and pacquiao at lightweight.
i think dawson beats calzaghe tbh. doesn't matter i think joe is retired now.
One of you left out Pacquiao and the other Calzaghe. Interesting.
Pacquiao has fought a lightweight who wasn't the best, and a welterweight who wasn't the best in his last two fights. So although he is #1 p4p, he hasn't established himself as the best in any single weight division.
However, if he beats Hatton on May 2, Pacquiao will clearly be the man at 140.
At the end of 2008, who do you consider to be the man in each weight division?
Heavyweight: Klitschko
Crusierweight: Adamek
Light Heavyweight: Calzaghe
Super Middleweight: Kessler
Middleweight: Abraham
Light Middleweight: Martinez
Welterweight: Margarito
Light Welterweight: Hatton
Lightweight: JMM
heavyweight - wladimir klitschko/vitali klitschko
light heavyweight - chad dawson
middleweight - kelly pavlik
welterweight - antonio margarito/miguel cotto
lightweight - manny pacquiao
featherweight - juan manuel lopez
bantamweight - gerry penalosa
flyweight - nonito donaire
One of you left out Pacquiao and the other Calzaghe. Interesting.