Does Holyfield show the drop in heavyweight quality?

The heavyweight division is really bad right now, we didn't need Holyfield to prove it.

The heavyweight scene has never been better. Check the records of the current champs! None of your Don King idols really come close to the current champions. The current heavies are the most exciting fighters I've ever seen! (Except maybe for Dempsey & Marciano) :firedevil There are so many more people from around the globe now competing, so it truly is representative of who is "the best of the best" ON THE PLANET. Why do some of you think that it is better when competition is only limited to whom Don King chooses? You euro-haters are so fuggin obvious! It funny as hell to read how you babies make excuses for your mass-marketed idols getting whooped. Don King ain't running the circus anymore girls, and y'all are going to have to realize that this is now a truly global competition. Keep the laughs rolling! Carry on euro-haters!

Heavyweight boxing is a complete joke. Vitali is the only one who's worth a damn. The rest get murdered in any other era including the Tyson 80's

Some posters think that size and modern day fighters can beat all of the fighters from before the 60's, its pretty ridiculous.

Ive been aware of the drop in quality since 2003. In boxing history, the younger challenger from the next generation usually beats the older champion from the previous generation. Gene Tunney beat an older Jack Dempsey Marciano KO'd an older Joe Louis Larry Holmes devastated an older Muhammad Ali Mike Tyson chopped an older Larry Holmes But Vitali Klitscko was not able to carry on this tradition and was outfoxed by the older, slower, shorter fighter. Vitalis best failed to live up to Lennox's worst and that set the tempo for how the rest of this horrible decade was to play out.

No. Valuev sucks, but there are plenty of talented heavyweights: Vitali, Wlad, Povetkin, Haye, etc. I agree 100%. The fight said an awful lot about Valuev, but you can't extend that to the division.

No one consider Valuev to be quality anyway. Only reason he mattered at all was cuz of his belt, but now that is meaningless too.

No. Valuev sucks, but there are plenty of talented heavyweights: Vitali, Wlad, Povetkin, Haye, etc. Wlad,Vitali=bums

This fight didn't prove that point, this division is bad. It's not as bad as MOST people say, but it is bad. It just lacks the one dominating force. Regardless, all this fight proved was how padded Valuev's record is and will continue to be. REMATCH IN AMERICA!

not really because i think it's common that most agree after the klit's, the division is weak.

the lack of talent at heavyweight is apparent to anyone who pays attention to the sport. i think what was exposed today was valuev as a champion. he doesnt deserve a top 10 ranking let alone a belt.

there is no such thing as a top 5 HW it's either wald or vitali

lol i dont think we needed holyfield to show us that there has been a serious drop off in talent among heavyweights.