Who won Holyfield vs Valuev?

your a tosser

yuos guys just behave yourself he got the pis took out him disgrace

Punches that landed? THAT WAS VALUEV! THAT IS WHY HE WON! Get over it babies! The reason idiots in here think Evander landed so many shots is because the broadcast kept showing a replay in between rounds where Evander landed one of his few punches from different camera angles from the fuggin second round... Sober up and watch the fight again and skip the damn Americanized replays, Valuev landed a few more times (check out the uppercuts). He also clearly rocked Evander in the 7th and 8th, Evander never once actually hurt Valuev! Otherwise, I say the fight should go to the guy who wasn't the obvious pussy. WHICH WAS VALUEV! Euro-haters may now resume whining. :boxing:

It wasn't as wide as some emotional people are saying, but I thought Holyfield deserved to win a close decision. I scored it for Holyfield, 115-114 with an even round. that scorecard, like everything you say on this forum, is a f u c k i n g joke :peeright: Tunney's scorecard

Since they "fought like shit" The victory goes to the one who at least moved forward the most. THAT WAS VALUEV. The euro-haters are going to have to realize you do not win fights by running like a pussy. You have to actually fight. Besides, IMHO in such "close" fight the decision should go to the one who has the belt. WHICH WAS VALUEV. The fight goes to whoever landed the most punches and that was Holyfield in most of the rounds. Ineffective aggression doesn't score points, having a title doesn't score points, landing clean punches scores points.

Since they "fought like shit" The victory goes to the one who at least moved forward the most. THAT WAS VALUEV. The euro-haters are going to have to realize you do not win fights by running like a pussy. You have to actually fight. Besides, IMHO in such "close" fight the decision should go to the one who has the belt. WHICH WAS VALUEV. I watched the fight with the commentary off. Maybe that is why I have a different perspective? I admit it was a shit fight with a very scared Holyfiled running away from Valuev the whole fight. I think the reason most of the euro-haters in here think Valuev sucks is because he scares the shit out of just about everyone he fights. So his opponents run away... and 300+ pound guys just don't run as fast. So yeah I guess it makes for a boring fight. Fact is that you gotta have balls if you are going to win against Valuev. Chagaev has balls of brass, thats why he can do it. Euro-haters may now resume crying. ~me

Both fought like shit, but Holy still fought better than Valuev. Period.

Because everyone is always talking about whats good for boxing or whats bad for boxing and a Holyfield win would have been the WORST thing for boxing, everyone is wanting the Heavyweight divison revitalized and a 46 year old champ would kill the divison No. What was really needed was a decisive (but not too painful) Valuev win, but what we got was worse than Holyfield winning, Holyfield NOT winning when he should have done because of either incompetent or corrupt judging. If he had won he would have got a bit of history and a deserved big money first defence, dutifully lost to someone such as Wlad, Chagaev or Haye and retired with sufficient cash to pay for his house and send his multitude of kids to a decent college. As it is we have a WBA champ that is no champ at all because everyone knows a 46 old beat him. And what is worse, while Holyfield fought a smart fight nobody has any illusions how he would have done against the K's, Haye.. all three would have KO'd him within two rounds. He 'won' because, frankly, Valuev was an absolute disgrace. The best we can hope for is Chagaev comes back, regains his throne in style and then promptly loses it to either whoever wins Vitali - Haye or Wlad. BTW.. I know somebody has already said it, but was Calzaghe right, or what?

Valuev was aggressive almost the entire fight chasing down Holyfield. :haha: You just made my night with that one...

Valuev won babies...:baby: Not a pretty win, but what do you expect? Holyfield was terrified the whole fight, running, hugging, & headbutting. The few shots Evander landed were mostly as he was moving backwards. He danced around a lot, but by the end it was obvious he was not there to fight. I'm not saying that Valuev put in such a great effort either... It's just that he was better than Holyfield. Simple as that. Valuev was aggressive almost the entire fight chasing down Holyfield. Valuev also visibly wobbled Evander with a couple shots. I guess it must suck to be a euro-hater, you ladies are going to have to get used to crying. :boxing: unfortunately, Europeans had Holyfield winning as well. you just cant score a fight for shit :)

Valuev won babies...:baby: Not a pretty win, but what do you expect? Holyfield was terrified the whole fight, running, hugging, & headbutting. The few shots Evander landed were mostly as he was moving backwards. He danced around a lot, but by the end it was obvious he was not there to fight. I'm not saying that Valuev put in such a great effort either... It's just that he was better than Holyfield. Simple as that. Valuev was aggressive almost the entire fight chasing down Holyfield. Valuev also visibly wobbled Evander with a couple shots. I guess it must suck to be a euro-hater, you ladies are going to have to get used to crying. :boxing:

So the truth behind your scoring comes out. Sorry? Should I have had Valuev winning?

Good representative? How about Evan Fields? You know. The EPO-monster. So the truth behind your scoring comes out.

i had holy winning clearly, it was a very slow paced fight and they can be difficult to score. but i cant see how anyone had valuev winning

I didnt watch this fight because it was one of the stupidest fights probably ever and came on here and you guys had me worried that Holyfield won the fight because if he won i would never watch boxing ever again that would have been the stupidest thing ever/ probably the biggest fix ever. Because everyone is always talking about whats good for boxing or whats bad for boxing and a Holyfield win would have been the WORST thing for boxing, everyone is wanting the Heavyweight divison revitalized and a 46 year old champ would kill the divison it would be more of a joke than Brock Lesnar being the heavy champ in MMA while having a only fought 3 times before then

evander is a good representative of the sport he trains hard fights hard valuev..is a ugly hairy smelly caveman who has no skills....no persona..nothing Good representative? How about Evan Fields? You know. The EPO-monster.

Holyfield by 4 rounds. At least. Not hard to score.

In my opinion a very bad decision. The real deal won the fight!

I voted Valuev just to be different. No matter who really won it's a lose-lose situation cuz neither of these guys is good enough now to be the real champ. We know who the best are. Well at least the real top 4 or so and these two guys ain't it. evander is a good representative of the sport he trains hard fights hard valuev..is a ugly hairy smelly caveman who has no skills....no persona..nothing

I voted Valuev just to be different. No matter who really won it's a lose-lose situation cuz neither of these guys is good enough now to be the real champ. We know who the best are. Well at least the real top 4 or so and these two guys ain't it. still evander deserved it. would of made history.