That's why no one fights in Europe.

That's a great idea! Hey Europe, any more robberies and you'll never see American fighters like Floyd Mayweather Jr, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr or Oscar De La Hoya on your shores again! :lol1: :lol1: ok....that was a good one :fing02:

That's a great idea! Hey Europe, any more robberies and you'll never see American fighters like Floyd Mayweather Jr, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr or Oscar De La Hoya on your shores again! Hopkins has fought internationally (a draw in Ecuador against Mercado). A star like Mayweather, Pacquiao or De La Hoya would never fight in another country because they can make enough money fighting in USA. A guy like Vinny Maddalone, maybe not as much so he has to go overseas.

The only thing to do is have all the americans boycott going to Europe and fighting over there. That's a great idea! Hey Europe, any more robberies and you'll never see American fighters like Floyd Mayweather Jr, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr or Oscar De La Hoya on your shores again!

If Taylor even dips his toe into the Atlantic, he's a fool. I don't think he EVER had intensions to.....but Chad Dawson has said he's willing to for a fight with Joe.

So the promoter can't pay, he gets sued in court and it does Dawson no good....because there is a risk that a) he won't get paid b) the fighter takes a needless risk for the sake of a bs title and maybe loses a fight in the homeland of another fighter. These are risks in Germany, but I would think it would be worse in Eastern Europe, but I could be wrong. If you don't pay your bills from the previous fight, you can't put on another show. A promoter not being allowed to be apart of significant fights takes away from sponsorships because TV won't get involved, so you're pretty much creating career suicide. Look at Murad Muhammad when he couldn't pay his bills after Holyfield-Oquendo, have you heard him do anything of note since? Nope, not really huh? Russia is pretty bad because they try to rob you on a budget. They offered an undefeated heavyweight prospect only $7500 bucks recently to fight a former heavyweight champion not too long ago. Talk about ridiculous, huh?

Robberies happen in the US too, but I get the point.

Agree, but on that one, Dawson would be nuts to go to Romania. I doubt he would make that much there. Germany sure. Romania, hell no. When a fight goes to purse bid, a promoter puts up the figure and the champion is entitled to the lion's share of the bid and the challenger the smaller portion. Some bodies have a 70-30 split and some have 60-40, I'm not sure who is what. For Dawson-Diaconu, which was won by Gankor the second time around, Dawson was entitled to $1,087,800 and Diaconu $725,000. Whether or not a promoter makes his money back is immaterial. If you can't cover your expenses, you lose money. That's not the fighters' faults. Which is why certain promoters, knowing the potential returns of their plans, make the bids they do.

OH and by the way if it wasn't for America Europe would now be Germany!LOL Nope, most would be Russia. With maybe the exception of the UK.

That's a great post. I agree. If you go to Europe for a big payday, you live with the consequences. Holyfield knew going in he had to KO Valuev twice to win on points and he didn't do it. Thanks. Germany is big on boxing, it has been since the days when Hitler designated the sport as part of the youth curriculum. They wanted to bring the Schmelling-Louis rematch to Germany because there they could do whatever they wanted. They felt that Louis could not retain his title there and afterwards, they'd be able to hold the title hostage as long as they felt fit. The government was willing to put up a huge sum of money for the fight in Germany, which underlined how significant the fight was to them at the time. Just a little something I read in David Margolick's epic "Beyond Glory: Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling, and a World on the Brink". If boxing history is your bag, it's worth a read.

I apologize for my generalization. But. My. God. You ****ing ******s. You piece of shit losers who suck the teat of anything that your crap continent shit out. This is why you're irrelevant and have been for fifty years. You cling to what is your own. You criticize America for being racist and you know what? And you know what? Your shit ass so called progressive countries wouldn't elect a black guy in a million years. You're a tell continent, while America is a show country. Your continent is a dinosaur. YOu're only place is in the ****ing history books. Why don't you guys start a war or something so that AMerica can bail you *** balls out again. I love how Brandeis Prescott is your favorite fighter, when Brandeis Prescott does not exist. Or is that Breidis Prescott's sister? Lol.. Are you also a fan of Rookie Marciano? How about Lettuce Lewis? You probably only saw his Khan fight. In fact, you probably didn't even see that. Just jumped the bandwagon because he stopped Khan. LMAO. Get the fuck out of here, you unknowledgable clown.

Yeah, it's no secret that most fighters make much more in Germany etc than in the U.S. Only our very top guys do better financially in the U.S. Look at Steve "USS" Cunningham. He can't draw in America, so the money is overseas for him. The reason he fought Adamek in America is because he is huge in Jersey. If a deal cannot be worked out between a champion and a mandatory challenger, the sanctioning body puts the fight to a purse bid. There promoters can place bids on fights and whoever has the highest bid owns the rights to put the fight wherever they see fight. Look at the situation with Dawson and Diaconu. Gary Shaw, Dawson's promoter, put in a lower bid than Diaconu's promoter. Why? Because stateside the fight does not generate near as much money as it does overseas.

What I'm saying is that when you agree to take a fight in Germany, you know what you're getting yourself into. When a fighter goes into a location and publicly says, "I need a knockout to win," that means they are acknowledging that they will not get a fair shake. Even if you knock a guy down and out, they can screw you. Look at what they did to Danny Williams with Konstantin Airich in Turkey, they cut the round short to save the house fighter. Krasniqi got a 20 count when he was dropped by Brewster in the 8th round. The referee picked Yoan Pablo Hernandez off the floor when Big Truck Braithwaite took his head off. Sven Ottke. Period. You get the idea. That's a great post. I agree. If you go to Europe for a big payday, you live with the consequences. Holyfield knew going in he had to KO Valuev twice to win on points and he didn't do it.

So, what you're saying is... European promoters pay Americans to get robbed? What I'm saying is that when you agree to take a fight in Germany, you know what you're getting yourself into. When a fighter goes into a location and publicly says, "I need a knockout to win," that means they are acknowledging that they will not get a fair shake. Even if you knock a guy down and out, they can screw you. Look at what they did to Danny Williams with Konstantin Airich in Turkey, they cut the round short to save the house fighter. Krasniqi got a 20 count when he was dropped by Brewster in the 8th round. The referee picked Yoan Pablo Hernandez off the floor when Big Truck Braithwaite took his head off. Sven Ottke. Period. You get the idea.

Now I know why Calzaghe never left that ****ing litter box he lives in.

Europeans have so little that they cling to small pieces of the glory they once had. If it weren't so ****ing pathetic it might be funny. Swim away, have cool down then comeback and give an apology.

Na mush you are talking out of ****ing ass crack tonight. Sort it out. Europeans have so little that they cling to small pieces of the glory they once had. If it weren't so ****ing pathetic it might be funny.

Wales08... to no one's surprise is the ******. Na mush you are talking out of ****ing ass crack tonight. Sort it out.

The reason people fight in Europe is simple: That's where the money is. Where else can Jeremy Bates go and fight and get paid 20K? Or any other sub-standard heavyweight? Notice, Brian Minto only takes risks in Europe. Why? Because they make the losses worth his while over there. Germany and Russia pay fighters well because the sponsors actually invest in the sport. In America, they don't invest nearly as much. So, what you're saying is... European promoters pay Americans to get robbed?

I would never in my life let one of my fighters go over there if I was a trainer, promoter whatever Taylor should tell Calzaghe or Froch or Kessler or whoever to kiss his ass if they ever expect him to travel over there to fight If Taylor even dips his toe into the Atlantic, he's a fool.

I would never in my life let one of my fighters go over there if I was a trainer, promoter whatever Taylor should tell Calzaghe or Froch or Kessler or whoever to kiss his ass if they ever expect him to travel over there to fight