Pacman vs Mayweather = Pacman vs Lebwaba

come on, the only similarity between ledwaba and mayweather is that they both have bullet jabs. manny's always, always, always been open to the stiff left jab, and hasn't been hurt by it in recent times (morales, ledwaba, cotto and even diaz all caught him with a number of hard jabs), so i really don't think it'll be a big factor. but ledwaba didn't have anything except for that jab. his defense was mediocre, he had no right hand to speak of. he was a competent champ but not a world-beater. mayweather's a different animal altogether. de la hoya has nice combinations, corrales was famous for his offense, and floyd didn't get hit square by either of them. zab and castillo did a good job early, but mayweather adjusted to zab and frankly wasn't in top form for the first castillo fight and proved it by beating him soundly in the 2nd. ledwaba was the very, very poor man's mayweather. on the other hand, pacquiao destroyed ledwaba and has improved dramatically since that fight. he has a right hook counter with knockdown power, he's perfected the jab-jab-left straight, his head movement is good, his chin is top-notch and his trainer seems to have a perfect game plan for everything (except for pacquiao's nemesis marquez, who's a HOF in his own right). all in all, pacquiao vs ledwaba tells us very little about what pacquiao vs mayweather will look like. it'll probably be closer to the first few rounds of mayweather-judah, except pacquiao's jab isn't as good as judah's, but throws much better combinations.

And Judah is faster then Pacqquiao. Worthless thread. How? There's big differences between the two, and I think you are comparing the speed of a single punch or something. Manny's whole body moves fast, not just his hands. Judah's output is lower and more economical. Manny throws way more combinations. Judah's speedy single shots don't compare well against Pacquiao's combos, unorthodox angles, and overall speed (not just hand speed). 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

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If you watched the fight, Zab Judah beat and even "knocked down" PBF in the first 4-5 rounds. Zab gassed. You will see 12 rounds of Zab Judah in Manny Pacquiao if he fights Floyd. Correction Zab was winning 2.5 rounds and got an apparent off balance knockdown and got measured and dismantled for the rest of the fight.

That's what i thought.. I dont think Mayweather can handle the shots that Lebwaba took at that fight... I think your underestimating this guys toughness. He fought through the first castillo fight with a reported torn rotator cuff and other fights with broken hands. All that is irrelevant though because he wouldn't take that kind of punishment.

Lmao at this thread. First off Ledwaba was a shitty fighter that Hbo was going to try and build cause they had no one around at 122 but it was clear when Ledwaba fought on the undercard against an opponet that he sucked as he was haviing tons of trouble with his opponet. Anyone who thinks Ledwaba was good needs to stop talking boxing. And Judah is faster then Pacqquiao. Worthless thread.

floyd is going to dominate the living shit out of pacman, and you all know it. yeah pbf is bigger than pac

To be onest Mayweather is so many level above Ledwaba, Mayweathers defence is milies better, his reflexes are better, his hand speed is better, everthing Mayweather does style wise is just a millons times better than Ledwaba .Mayweather has also got the much better chin. Can't really comapre. Did you saw Lebwaba's fights before he fought Manny or no? How can you tell?

Floyd already beat a boxer who is just as fast, or even faster than Pacman.. They guy's name is Zab Judah, a soutpaw like Manny is. Sorry mate.. No way Zab Judah faster than Pac.

Whats really funny about these Judah and Manny comparisons in a fight vs. PBF is that yall give PBF no credit for the adjustment he made in the Judah fight to eventually beat the shit out of Judah. Judah only won 3 rds in that whole fight and it was the work PBF was putting in on Judah that made him slow down. Once PBF went away from his normal defense and went with a high guard Judah had no answer and got punished. Keep shit real PBF made Judah gas he didn't just get tired for no reason. Its possible Manny could make a adjust to something PBF would do in a fight to negate something Manny was doing. But so far to my knowledge Manny hasn't made adjustments mid-fight. In his fights with Marquez, Manny didn't make any adjustments he kept doing what he was doing because it worked enough for him (I disagree beacause I felt Marquez won both fights). When PBF makes a adjustment whatever he took away from that fighter no longer comes into play during the fight. Can Manny make adjustments MID-FIGHT is what I want to see because we all know PBF can IMO it remains to be seen if Manny can.

If you watched the fight, Zab Judah beat and even "knocked down" PBF in the first 4-5 rounds. Zab gassed. You will see 12 rounds of Zab Judah in Manny Pacquiao if he fights Floyd.wrong, wrong, wrong. zab caught floyd off balance and it was a flash knockdown, that floyd recovered very fast from, more or less, him being caught off balance, and it was a kd, but zab didn't even win round 3 imo. round 1 was pretty even, and round 4 went to zab, but floyd caught him in his body more than zab caught floyd. zab landed one left hand, missed nearly all of his punches when floyd was on the ropes, and grazed floyd with another left hand later in the round, but floyd landed the more precise shots to the body. floyd won rounds 5-12 and round 3 imo and round one could have went either way. nonetheless, pacman would get crushed by floyd, and zab is a better puncher than pacman, but he does not have manny's stamina at all, but zab is the better boxer, manny is the better fighter. floyd adjusts well to any style and manny would eat lead right hands all night, all ****ing night, and left hooks to his body that he leaves exposed. i guarantee you all, that floyd and manny will fight in the pocket, and floyd will counter off of the shoulder roll and nail manny all night, trust , me. floyd punishes manny.

floyd is going to dominate the living shit out of pacman, and you all know it.

What is the best punch against a southpaw? What is Floyd's best punch? Manny is still open for the straight the right hand on leads and counters. Diaz does not throw a good straight right and that has never been one of Oscar's better punches (converted southpaw). Fighting Mayweather is completely different then the last 2 fights that took place, so taking anything from the last 2 fights or any fight in Manny's career is foolhardy at best. Floyd has fought a couple quick lefty's though. I really do not know how the fight would play out, I favor Mayweather for the reasons above (along with the fact no fighter has ever hit him cleanly a lot over the course of a fight) but who knows how it would play out.

To be onest Mayweather is so many level above Ledwaba, Mayweathers defence is milies better, his reflexes are better, his hand speed is better, everthing Mayweather does style wise is just a millons times better than Ledwaba .Mayweather has also got the much better chin. Can't really comapre.

Come to think of it, since his last bout against JMM, Pacman's mentality has changed, defensively. He fights guys his size without caution, he doesn't care if he gets tagged as long as he can get his own licks in. He knows he can take the punches from guys who approximates his size and built, but Pacman is different now. His last two fights against bigger guys can attest to this, he much, much careful now. He makes them miss, and miss by mile. He picks his spots, he's in and out, and he found out that it's much more fun to get some hits in without being hit back, a much better proposition for him. He hasn't lost a round since then, and that's 2 fights and 17 rounds ago. The only difference between Floyd and Pacman is, Pacman didn't forget his offense... Pacquiao has added much more movement now to his game, he's become a more defensive fighter now and he's a smarter fighter as well. It's a good tactic against the bigger guys, he's using his best weapon against them, his speed and it's paid off well. Mayweather is a more defensive fighter, Pacquiao has become a better defensive fighter but he's much more aggressive.

I don't think it's because he's unable, I think it's because he's unwilling to let his hands go against the bigger guys because he didn't want to get countered or caught, he became a much more defensive fighter as he moved up in weight, we could see a much more active Mayweather if they do fight. Come to think of it, since his last bout against JMM, Pacman's mentality has changed, defensively. He fights guys his size without caution, he doesn't care if he gets tagged as long as he can get his own licks in. He knows he can take the punches from guys who approximates his size and built, but Pacman is different now. His last two fights against bigger guys can attest to this, he much, much careful now. He makes them miss, and miss by mile. He picks his spots, he's in and out, and he found out that it's much more fun to get some hits in without being hit back, a much better proposition for him. He hasn't lost a round since then, and that's 2 fights and 17 rounds ago. The only difference between Floyd and Pacman is, Pacman didn't forget his offense...

Let's just say Castillo who apparently has been the most effective fighter against Mayweather, do you think Pacman will land more shots and attempt more punches than Castillo? That's really hard to say, I seriously doubt it because Mayweather was afflicted with injuries for that fight but with the layoff, you never know.

It just pop-up into my mind... I try to compare Mayweather and Lebwaba i found it out they got almost similar in style... If you saw Lebwaba fights before he fought Pacquiao in 2001 he has a very good defence, got good speed, very slick fighter and love to pot his shots... He was actually one of the most feared fighter at 122 that time, even the mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera duck his shit out of him... But after Pacquiao demolished him.. So sad he become a bum... Do the Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight do the same with Pacman vs Lebwaba? Pls help me on this one i can fell it will happen next year.. no no no no no...

I don't know, there's really only one way to find out, Mayweather is a very tough guy to hit clean with power shots, you can maybe find him with your first shot but it's very hard to find him with your second, he can probably outland Baldomir but we won't know until they actually step in the ring, if they ever step into the ring. Mayweather is economical, I don't think it's because he's unable, I think it's because he's unwilling to let his hands go against the bigger guys because he didn't want to get countered or caught, he became a much more defensive fighter as he moved up in weight, we could see a much more active Mayweather if they do fight. Let's just say Castillo who apparently has been the most effective fighter against Mayweather, do you think Pacman will land more shots and attempt more punches than Castillo?

Zab is faster than Pacman? Really??? Judah 59 power connects in 12 rounds ... duh, that's Pacman's output in one round. :D