Decision that were not robberys, but they were just plain wrong
Morales v Espadas 1
Ibeabuchi v Tua
Chavez v Kamua
Nelson v C.Grove
Quartey v DLH
Benn v Malinga 1
Eubank v Schommer
DLH v Mosley 2
Rahman v Toney
Mitchell vs Otkke
Brewer vs Ottke 1 & 2
Reid vs Ottke
Starie vs Otkke
Barerra vs Morales 1 & 2
Tito vs Oscar
Castillo vs Mayweather 1
Johnson vs Dawson
whats your deal with ottke? he was a great fighter who was the first to have 21 title defenses and with a real belt. not the wbo. he was a master boxer who always found a way to win. i could mention calzaghe's gift decisions against reid and hopkins but i won't..........or will i.
Ibeabuchi clearly won the first four rounds, so you guys are saying Tua won 7 of the last 8? Wow...
Anyway, yeah Tua did more damage overall but he packed it all into 2 or 3 good rounds. He did hurt Ike real bad in the 11th, but there is no way Tua landed enough hard shots to cancel out everything Ike was doing in each and every round.
As for HBO having Tua winning, DUH! He was their hot heavyweight prospect at the time. Everyone was in love with Tua. Ike only had what 15 fights coming into that? They hadn't built him up or anything. NOBODY knew Ike, so there was no reason to promote him. They wanted Tua vs. Holyfield or Lewis, so of course they said they had Tua winning.
Lederman always scores for the aggressor. Case in point: he gave Hatton like 3 rounds against Mayweather when most judges struggled to give Hatton even one.
Ike won the first 4 because he threw everything he had in those 4 rounds, after that it was all Tua. When Ike was on the inside he was having his way with Tua, but after the 4th he got tired, because he had thrown so many punches in those 4 rounds. Ibeabuchi went to fight on the outside to grab a breather trying not to get involved as much so he did not have to work as hard and that is how Tua took over the fight.
Ibeabuchi was ineffective on the outside and that is when Tua started having more an impact and hurt him twice. In the 11th Ibeabuchi looked ready to go.
They had Tua winning because he won more rounds :crazy:. You are horrible at scoring fights, absolutely horrible. You thought Tiberi v Toney was a close fight when Tiberi clearly won the fight.
EVEN if you thought Ibeabuchi did win the fight, your scorecard is ridiculous.
Santa Cruz/Cassamayor (I can't explain this one)
Pacquiao/Marquez II (close but wrong)
Toney-Griffin I & II (a disgrace)
Hatton/Collazo
Ricky won that fight, son.
anyone mentioned calzaghe-hopkins? calzaghe lands literally 3 clean punches the entire fight and steals the title.
:lol1:
I feel bad laughing, because I know how ****ing irritating a troll is when they are slagging off your favorite boxer, but... I can't help it... these posts are ****ing hilarious to me.
DLH-Mosley II - Mosley was credited with a lot undeserved rounds in the 1st half
DLH-Tinidad - Same as Mosley II.
foreman-schultz
pac-marquez I - should be a win for pac
quartery DLH - 10-8 in the 12th is not enough IMO
Espinosa-Sotto - Robbery
Hearns-Leonard II - Clear W for the hitman
Decision that were not robberys, but they were just plain wrong
Morales v Espadas 1
Ibeabuchi v Tua
Chavez v Kamua
Nelson v C.Grove
Quartey v DLH
Benn v Malinga 1
Eubank v Schommer
DLH v Mosley 2
Rahman v Toney
agreed .
Exactly i cant believe how wide he scored the fight.:rofl::rofl:
Ibeabuchi visibly tired after the 5th and Tua then has his best round. Tua then got stronger and stronger as the fight when on. Tua was winning most of the late rounds and he hurt Ibeabuchi twice, once staggering him.
Ibeabuchi clearly won the first four rounds, so you guys are saying Tua won 7 of the last 8? Wow...
Anyway, yeah Tua did more damage overall but he packed it all into 2 or 3 good rounds. He did hurt Ike real bad in the 11th, but there is no way Tua landed enough hard shots to cancel out everything Ike was doing in each and every round.
As for HBO having Tua winning, DUH! He was their hot heavyweight prospect at the time. Everyone was in love with Tua. Ike only had what 15 fights coming into that? They hadn't built him up or anything. NOBODY knew Ike, so there was no reason to promote him. They wanted Tua vs. Holyfield or Lewis, so of course they said they had Tua winning.
Lederman always scores for the aggressor. Case in point: he gave Hatton like 3 rounds against Mayweather when most judges struggled to give Hatton even one.
tua did more damage but he lost most of the rounds?
give me a break......
what are you a calzaghe nuthugger now? value workrate?
Exactly i cant believe how wide he scored the fight.:rofl::rofl:
Ibeabuchi visibly tired after the 5th and Tua then has his best round. Tua then got stronger and stronger as the fight when on. Tua was winning most of the late rounds and he hurt Ibeabuchi twice, once staggering him.
are you kidding? Ike won that fight going away. I had it like 117-111. Tua did more damage, but he lost just about every round
tua did more damage but he lost most of the rounds?
give me a break......
what are you a calzaghe nuthugger now? value workrate?
I would, but... I'm already queued up...
I have about 80 fights on my list to watch...
After that, and I get through watching all the new fights that strike my attention, I'll have a clean slate and can start watching fighters like Norris. :)
make sure you do :fing02:
Have you seen a Morales v C.Hernandez link anywhere that is suposed to be a very good fight of Morales but i have not seen it anywhere yet.
are you kidding? Ike won that fight going away. I had it like 117-111. Tua did more damage, but he lost just about every round
are YOU!! joking :crazy:
Ibeabuchi threw everthing he had at Tua for the first 5 rounds, after that it was all Tua ....and Tua staggered him.
Ibeabuchi threw more punches over the coarse of the fight, but majority of those were thrown in the early rounds that he won.
Merchant,Lampley,Lederman all had Tua winning
Hey DWiens421 i know you go on a certain Boxing forum that i use too ask Pugilist to hook you up he has some Norris dvds uploaded
Norris was an excellent Boxer who was a gunslinger at heart, but he had a horrible chin and got KTFO a few time whilst getting too involved... he was ALWAYS exciting to watch though. Al Bernstien led the cheerleading for him at one point as the best p4p fighter in the sport or top 3 at least.
You wont see a fighter who enjoys punishing people as much as Norris did
I would, but... I'm already queued up...
I have about 80 fights on my list to watch...
After that, and I get through watching all the new fights that strike my attention, I'll have a clean slate and can start watching fighters like Norris. :)
I've never seen Reid or Norris.
I will say it is something that Reid survived all 12 rounds... he got knocked down a million times by Trinidad.
Junior Jones would have probably been undefeated had he had a good chin.
Bradley's chin will be okay at 140 I think... that division is awful. Can anyone punch in that division? Urango, but... my god, that guy is not very good. Good luck landing a clean shot no skill Juan.
Hey DWiens421 i know you go on a certain Boxing forum that i use too ask Pugilist to hook you up he has some Norris dvds uploaded
Norris was an excellent Boxer who was a gunslinger at heart, but he had a horrible chin and got KTFO a few time whilst getting too involved... he was ALWAYS exciting to watch though. Al Bernstien led the cheerleading for him at one point as the best p4p fighter in the sport or top 3 at least.
You wont see a fighter who enjoys punishing people as much as Norris did