Joe Calzaghe: Who's Carl Froch? Who is that? Oh that guy with a big mouth.

I don't think Calzaghe has anything else to prove . Kessler is enough at smw .I think Froch Kessler would be a good scrap but I think Kessler would beat him :boxing:

Froch ain't gettin within dreamin distance of a Joe C fight.

50/50? No way man, the vast majority had Lacy KOing Joe within a couple of rounds. Of 24 BoxingScene staff, for example, only 8 had Joe winning, and only ONE of those predicted the correct outcome accurately (Mr. TK Stewart, give yourself a pat on the back). I also remember talking to many people in the UK about the fight before it happened. Hardly anyone at all gave Joe a chance. It wasn't even close to 50/50. And all this bullshit about Jones being shot? People need to get real. What is their definition of "shot", I wonder? Jones had Calzaghe down in the first round and was still throwing powerful punches 11 rounds later. Jones ain't what he used to be, but he is far less shot than people think. Joe Calzaghe would have given Jones a great challenge at ANY point in either mans career. People say Jones would have crushed Joe in his prime. **** off! Back in the day Joe threw just as many punches but he had twice as much power, and Jones was very hurt and bloodied by Joe's "slaps". No one will ever convince me that Jones would have beaten Joe, in fact I am sure Joe would beat Jones anytime, and that's why Jones would rather fight Clinton Woods instead. As for Hopkins, he wanted nothing to do with Joe and chose to fight Morade Hakkar instead (and for less money than he was offered to fight Joe). Some people will never get it though. When he is motivated, Joe completely owns and humiliates all of these guys. I agree with much of what you say Bro, but when i stated opinion was divided 50-50 for the Lacy fight - that was what i had read and heard from so called boxing experts... You say it was different on here and i believe you because i don't think that Calzaghe gets the credit he deserves from many on here. In time he will get the full credit that he deserves... but i'm sure people will go on to say he ducked Dawson, and Froch when he retires.

It's strange how fighter's labelled the next best thing by so called boxing experts suddenly become 'overhyped' when they are beaten as comprehensively as Lacy was beaten by Calzaghe. Opinion was divided 50-50 when Lacy was due to fight Calzaghe... In fact some were saying that Joe was going to get bashed up by the younger, stronger American... But Joe outclassed, and exposed Lacy and gets no credit for it! With regards to Kessler, i actually think he's a very good fighter which time will go on to tell as he still has a while left in the fight game... Again, opinion was divided prior to the Calzaghe/Kessler fight yet Calzaghe still gets accused of ducking people... Kessler and Lacy were two of the best Super Middleweights around at the time Calzaghe fought them so how can he be accused of ducking anyone? Both Hopkins and Jones Jnr are obviously past their best but i think that Joe is too. Calzaghe/Hopkins was a close fight but in my opinion Joe deserved a majority, rather than split decision because other than the knock down, Hopkins didn't do anything major and was spoiling at times and looking to steal breathers and rounds... I give Joe plenty of credit for winning that fight because it certainly wasn't easy and Hopkins proved he still has something in the tank by going on to beat Pavlik. 50/50? No way man, the vast majority had Lacy KOing Joe within a couple of rounds. Of 24 BoxingScene staff, for example, only 8 had Joe winning, and only ONE of those predicted the correct outcome accurately (Mr. TK Stewart, give yourself a pat on the back). I also remember talking to many people in the UK about the fight before it happened. Hardly anyone at all gave Joe a chance. It wasn't even close to 50/50. And all this bullshit about Jones being shot? People need to get real. What is their definition of "shot", I wonder? Jones had Calzaghe down in the first round and was still throwing powerful punches 11 rounds later. Jones ain't what he used to be, but he is far less shot than people think. Joe Calzaghe would have given Jones a great challenge at ANY point in either mans career. People say Jones would have crushed Joe in his prime. **** off! Back in the day Joe threw just as many punches but he had twice as much power, and Jones was very hurt and bloodied by Joe's "slaps". No one will ever convince me that Jones would have beaten Joe, in fact I am sure Joe would beat Jones anytime, and that's why Jones would rather fight Clinton Woods instead. As for Hopkins, he wanted nothing to do with Joe and chose to fight Morade Hakkar instead (and for less money than he was offered to fight Joe). Some people will never get it though. When he is motivated, Joe completely owns and humiliates all of these guys. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Team of the year - Cardiff City :kiss: Nice to see the Welsh disease of celebrating glorious failure above success is alive and well over there. What other country would pick a team who got a Jammy path to a meaningless final before losing to the first half decent team they played above two sets of winners. Appalling.

He is leaving a bit on the table. I gotta be honest I don't think history will remember too much of Joe other than a guy who beat a couple of past greats. It might not be fair but that is just the way I see it going. You gotta be kidding. Joe Calzaghe will still be talked about in 50 years time. Bank on it. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Lets look at this. He beat an overhyped bum in Lacy. No big deal at all. Ermmm. Kessler a bum who hasnt won a noticable fight all his career. An extremely shot Jones. Lost to Hopkins. HOF material? No chance at all. It's strange how fighter's labelled the next best thing by so called boxing experts suddenly become 'overhyped' when they are beaten as comprehensively as Lacy was beaten by Calzaghe. Opinion was divided 50-50 when Lacy was due to fight Calzaghe... In fact some were saying that Joe was going to get bashed up by the younger, stronger American... But Joe outclassed, and exposed Lacy and gets no credit for it! With regards to Kessler, i actually think he's a very good fighter which time will go on to tell as he still has a while left in the fight game... Again, opinion was divided prior to the Calzaghe/Kessler fight yet Calzaghe still gets accused of ducking people... Kessler and Lacy were two of the best Super Middleweights around at the time Calzaghe fought them so how can he be accused of ducking anyone? Both Hopkins and Jones Jnr are obviously past their best but i think that Joe is too. Calzaghe/Hopkins was a close fight but in my opinion Joe deserved a majority, rather than split decision because other than the knock down, Hopkins didn't do anything major and was spoiling at times and looking to steal breathers and rounds... I give Joe plenty of credit for winning that fight because it certainly wasn't easy and Hopkins proved he still has something in the tank by going on to beat Pavlik.

i dont think he gets enough credit for lacy and kessler...but thats about all i think he's done nah scratch that...its pretty hard to win every fight...thats an accomplishment...all his opponents WERE NOT tomato cans

Pussy ducking out from real fights again. There goes his 'legacy' lmao. Yep! Calzaghe ducks anyone who isnt past there prime or is a decent fighter!!

:lol1: LMFAO!!! He doesn't even get respect in a country home to sheep and 5 inbreds. He's won it the last 2 years running. Plus he won it in 2001

And the year before... and the year before.. oh and the year before :rofl: He was definitely shocked to be announced 3rd, nearly spat his water out :rofl:

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Shane Williams deserved it. Best rugby player on the planet. EDIT: Joe won it last year Nu Jersey Devil.

"Carl who?" :rofl: How did Calzaghe come 3rd? Bollocks!

Shame he beat the crap out of Jones. Don't remind danc, he might start crying about it... Poor Jones... Jones said it was the cut that caused his loss... hahaha :smashfrea

Pussy ducking out from real fights again. There goes his 'legacy' lmao. did he even have one ?

He said "Oh that guy with the big NOSE" NOT mouth.

He is leaving a bit on the table. I gotta be honest I don't think history will remember too much of Joe other than a guy who beat a couple of past greats. It might not be fair but that is just the way I see it going. Shame he beat the crap out of Jones.

He is leaving a bit on the table. I gotta be honest I don't think history will remember too much of Joe other than a guy who beat a couple of past greats. It might not be fair but that is just the way I see it going.

Rugby team should have won, then SCFC 2nd. Good joke. :smashfrea

Team of the year - Cardiff City :kiss: Rugby team should have won, then SCFC 2nd.