If we're talking about a guy who constantly fluxes his weight and taking fights, then I could see the point. You keep bouncing four to six weight classes, your pretty much tiring yourself out on a biological level.
DLH fights once or twice a year? So he doesn't really to need to worry about his weight until he's got a fight planned. Sure, there would be a bit of difficulty handling the weight, but that should happen early in training.
It has nothing to do with age. Just the ability for the body to adapt.
Do you think DLH/Pac looks the same if the bout was at 154?
Well, state your case.
If we're talking about a guy who constantly fluxes his weight and taking fights, then I could see the point. You keep bouncing four to six weight classes, your pretty much tiring yourself out on a biological level.
DLH fights once or twice a year? So he doesn't really to need to worry about his weight until he's got a fight planned. Sure, there would be a bit of difficulty handling the weight, but that should happen early in training.
It has nothing to do with age. Just the ability for the body to adapt.
"We knew we had him after the first round," Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach said. "He had no legs, he was hesitant and he was shot. He is a great fighter, I love him, but I hope this is last fight and that he will retire."
Serious question.WHy didn't Oscar come into the ring at around 158-160 ?
Does anyone know? He seems to have nullified his main advantage....
Could he have had physical problems(maybe kidneys) in making the weight and couldn't gain the extra stone,in the crucial 36 hours before the fight?
Pacman could still have won handily,but seeing Oscar stop throwing punches in the last couple of rounds-that was new.
I think it's too late for Hatton. Years of abuse have already shortened his career. He can't change, and wouldn't change now anyway.
One more big payday against Manny or Floyd, and he'll be gone.
its true Floyd Sr asked him to try stick to a decent weight level and yesterday you could see he has put a bit of weight back on. its himself he is doing
Hatton was at ringside i hope he takes note of this
I think it's too late for Hatton. Years of abuse have already shortened his career. He can't change, and wouldn't change now anyway.
One more big payday against Manny or Floyd, and he'll be gone.
Manny would be ok back @ 135. He's only recently moved up from super-feather, and fought Diaz at lightweight. He didn't bulk up that much to fight Oscar, so i reckon he'll continue his career @ 135 - unless a deal can be struck with Hatton @140.
thanks guys, it just seemed that Manny bulked up his muscles...
I am asking this question aside from the millions of dream fights that I could think of, I also want PAC to face JMM for a third time, for higher stakes.. i.e. P4P No. 1 and Undisputed LW Championship...
guys do you think Manny would screw his weight if he fights back to 135??
imho he can only go to 140 and retain full power, he will be considerably weaker now at 135...
Manny at 135 would still be the same fighter he was before.
He hasn't balooned up for this fight, he was at the same weight he always is, he just didn't have to cut so much weight.
Manny was fighting at his walk around weight without cutting to much.
For his fight against Diaz, he weighted at 135, by fight time he was 144,5. Just 4 pound lighter than he was for ODLH.
So that tells me he didn't gained any extra weight, he just didn't have to cut.
Unlike Oscar, Roy Jones, Tarver... Who gained a lot of weight, and they are trying to cut it down.
guys do you think Manny would screw his weight if he fights back to 135??
imho he can only go to 140 and retain full power, he will be considerably weaker now at 135...
He'd still be fine at 135, it's only one fight removed. Lower than that would be impossible now.
guys do you think Manny would screw his weight if he fights back to 135??
imho he can only go to 140 and retain full power, he will be considerably weaker now at 135...
Fighters who remain successful at relatively "lower" weight classes later on in age tend to have campaigned at largely the same weight for an entire career, and ideally maintain physical condition year round so the weight never becomes a struggle. i.e. Hagler, Hopkins, Monzon, etc. (although Monzon was just a freak, an anomaly). Dropping down in weight indeed hardly ever seems to meet with positive results. DLH tried to pull a Hopkins, coming in underweight to prove a point, and paid the price. His body looked shrunken compared to his 154 frame, especially in the legs.
Definitely, I was watching the Mayorga fight and it struck me how much smaller DLH looked and one of the first things I noticed in the fight was how thin DLH's legs were, they were smaller than the tall, lanky guys that have fought in the division.