Mayweather greatness debunked

If, Mayweather "schooled", DLH as you say, even losing few rounds along the way, what does it say about Manny who, didn't lose any exchanges, or rounds, and made DLH quit on his stool? it shows that mannys not a bitch and came to fight DLH. mayweather potshotted and ran. he fought in a way to win a decision.. dlh did enough stupid shit (like that 8 punch left hand combo to the body that lampley went crazy over even though it was ineffective) to convince some people it was a close fight. also i think the fact that it was an MD made people who didnt see the fight assume it was a close fight. it really wasnt. anyways this doesnt mean mannypac could beat mayweather or that mayweather isnt great. it was all in money mays head he didnt really come to "destroy" dlh. at the end of the day he still gets the wins. he beat zab in a decision and cotto really beat up zab.. that doesnt "debunk" mayweahters greatness either

please post a link or is this your fantasy interpretation:liar: you didn't say anything you typed a bunch of bullshit you made up:fing02: I'm sorry but did cotto defeat kosta tsyzu or was it ricky hatton, and I do remember floyd asking hatton to fight him at 140 wow what an idiot you are, everyone knows the beef floyd and ricky had since 05. floyd wanted tszyu and ricky spoiled it. and floyd knew he could beat hatton at 140 that's why the fight never took place at 140:chairshot what a stan, is that why cotto started at 130:wtf: I don't need a link you dumb flomo, if you actually followed boxing you would know this. Cotto and Mayweather both fought for Top Rank and it is a known fact that baby Floyd was jelous of the attention Cotto was getting. As far as the size issue like I guess Hatton is also bigger than Floyd because he started his career at 140. I wonder if Floyd could make 130 now. Dumbass

To have a nemesis, you need to have history. Hatton and Mayweather had that, going back to i think 04, and definately heated up in 05. Cotto and Mayweather talk only began after Cotto beat Shane Mosley and Mayweather stopped Hatton only to see Mayweather retire. Cotto also didint really go out of his way to say much about mayweather either way. Cotto is mayweathers nemsis because you are a fan of him, but thats about it. Cotto could care less about floyd. The only question about Mayweathers career was how long he could keep his untouchable momentum against bigger guys, there was no question about his skills or his ability to dominate, but as he got older he fought less against credible competition, however he should have left welterweight if he wasnt going to fight any of the other contenders, but thats really the only thing i hold against him. And yes, Cotto is clearly bigger than floyd i dont know how you dont see that. they arent the same size. Cotto is a bigger guy by far, he struggled to make 140 when floyd was MOVING to that division, cotto was draining himself to make it, come on now. Cotto was a stablemate of Mayweather and they never liked each other. Arum was giving Cotto a lot of attention and baby Floyd didn't like that. So they competition was there and it was clear that Arum wanted to match them up against each other in the future. So that being said the history between them was much greater than with Hatton if it ever existed at all Hatton only said a dumb comment after a fight and Floyd jumped all over it because he knew he could beat him. Does that make Hatton a nemesis? Cotto is thicker than Mayweather but Mayweather is actually taller. And if there is a size difference it is pretty much miniscule.

are you trying to say floyd wasn't the ring lineal 147 champion:crazy: I know it hurts:****you: And who did he actually beat for the lineal championship? The answer is Carlos Baldomir, do you actually consider that to be an accomplishment. Face it Floyd has hyped himself to the point, where he doesn't have to do anything for idiots like you to consider him the greatest. Fact is he isn't even great.

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Cotto isn't bigger than Floyd, they are both about the same size. And if Floyd ever had a nemesis, I would think it would be Cotto rather than Hatton. Mayweather is good he will never be great, he chose to end his career in his prime when there were still many question he needed to answer. To have a nemesis, you need to have history. Hatton and Mayweather had that, going back to i think 04, and definately heated up in 05. Cotto and Mayweather talk only began after Cotto beat Shane Mosley and Mayweather stopped Hatton only to see Mayweather retire. Cotto also didint really go out of his way to say much about mayweather either way. Cotto is mayweathers nemsis because you are a fan of him, but thats about it. Cotto could care less about floyd. The only question about Mayweathers career was how long he could keep his untouchable momentum against bigger guys, there was no question about his skills or his ability to dominate, but as he got older he fought less against credible competition, however he should have left welterweight if he wasnt going to fight any of the other contenders, but thats really the only thing i hold against him. And yes, Cotto is clearly bigger than floyd i dont know how you dont see that. they arent the same size. Cotto is a bigger guy by far, he struggled to make 140 when floyd was MOVING to that division, cotto was draining himself to make it, come on now.

He ignored cotto and retired after he fought hatton. He basically settled his nemesis from 140 and retired. Sure floyd runs his mouth about being the best and this and that, but so what, he has a place in history, just not as high as he thinks, its not that big of a deal. When cotto starts taking challanges at 160, 4 divisions up from where he started, then we will see how you feel then. Mayweather basically didint take on guys that were way bigger than him, and you are faulting mayweather for not fighting guys 3 times his size, calling him a pussy basically. Thats fine, just remember that cotto and mayweathers careers almost mirror each other, both moved up one division and established themselves in nearly the same fashion. Again mayweather is already great, he already has a place in history, although he didint take on the best welterweights of the time, it doesnt erase who he was as a fighter, much to your dismay. Cotto isn't bigger than Floyd, they are both about the same size. And if Floyd ever had a nemesis, I would think it would be Cotto rather than Hatton. Mayweather is good he will never be great, he chose to end his career in his prime when there were still many question he needed to answer.

I agree with the OP Me too. Oscar is nowhere near shot like some people claim, he only fought ONCE since the Mayweather fight and has received no damage. Weight is another excuse. Over-training is another. Dehydration is yet another. What else can anyone come up with to discredit Manny? Keep going. This bullshit is quite entertaining. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Didn't you know? Only Floyd and Roy can get credit for those achievements. Kind've seems that way, doesnt it.

And stil he was a welterweight champion, who was considered the best ww by many including you. If he wants to be great, why doesn't he fight the best. He chose not to fight Margarito, he ignored Cotto and he picked the fights he knew he could win for sure. He ignored cotto and retired after he fought hatton. He basically settled his nemesis from 140 and retired. Sure floyd runs his mouth about being the best and this and that, but so what, he has a place in history, just not as high as he thinks, its not that big of a deal. When cotto starts taking challanges at 160, 4 divisions up from where he started, then we will see how you feel then. Mayweather basically didint take on guys that were way bigger than him, and you are faulting mayweather for not fighting guys 3 times his size, calling him a pussy basically. Thats fine, just remember that cotto and mayweathers careers almost mirror each other, both moved up one division and established themselves in nearly the same fashion. Again mayweather is already great, he already has a place in history, although he didint take on the best welterweights of the time, it doesnt erase who he was as a fighter, much to your dismay.

So did the Oscar that was there yesterday, he was just shocked that he couldn't push Manny around like he did Floyd. Manny did what Floyd couldn't, he took DLH completely out of the fight. You chose to ignore that Manny is much smaller than either Floyd or DLH, he only got up to 142 and yet he still beat the crap out of the much bigger man. Didn't you know? Only Floyd and Roy can get credit for those achievements.

Thank you. Different weight. Different trainer. Different gameplan. The Oscar that night came to fight. Idk what Oscar was doing last nite. He was trying to box apparently against a faster, slicker and better boxer. So did the Oscar that was there yesterday, he was just shocked that he couldn't push Manny around like he did Floyd. Manny did what Floyd couldn't, he took DLH completely out of the fight. You chose to ignore that Manny is much smaller than either Floyd or DLH, he only got up to 142 and yet he still beat the crap out of the much bigger man.

By the mere fact anyone would bring up the name PBF is a credit to him in and of itself. Why can't you fools Leave the name Maywheather out of your mouth? Give this man's nutts a rest!

The DLH we seen last night is worlds apart from the one floyd fought. Manny was amazing last night and deserves all the credit in the world but dont talk shit. Thank you. Different weight. Different trainer. Different gameplan. The Oscar that night came to fight. Idk what Oscar was doing last nite. He was trying to box apparently against a faster, slicker and better boxer.

What Many did today has clarified what I always knew to be true. Mayweather is by no means an all time great. The DLH that Manny fought today is not far off from the DLH, Floyd fought 1 year. Floyd fought DHL to a split decesion while Manny totally dominated, shut him out and stopped him. Just imagine what Cotto and Margarito would have done to DLH. Not to take anything from Many, he fought a great fight and he's one hell of a fighter. But he has no business in the welterweight division. Mayweather is just a big hype job, who knew who to fight and when to fight. He may have retired thinking he's an all time great, but there are many out there proving that he just all hype. The DLH we seen last night is worlds apart from the one floyd fought. Manny was amazing last night and deserves all the credit in the world but dont talk shit.

who the hell cherry picks an undefeated p4p number 8? and how do you cherry pick DLH whom everyone would die to get a fight with, including cotto. I understand floyds welter resume was lackluster, but thats one division. At 140 NOBODY fought ANYBODY, that includes cotto, hatton, and mayweather. Tszyu losing to hatton threw that division in disarry, since hatton basically ducked floyd, cotto was too young and green, and floyd was looking to basically move up anyway with no real threats at 140 other than tszyu and hatton, which neither fight would ever materialize. And stil he was a welterweight champion, who was considered the best ww by many including you. If he wants to be great, why doesn't he fight the best. He chose not to fight Margarito, he ignored Cotto and he picked the fights he knew he could win for sure.

Oscar was drained this fight and manny had a different style than Floyd does obviously. Floyd is cautious and a counter puncher, Manny = aggressor bob and weave fighter.... Styles and age makes fights. BMWM3P you know this.. Give Both Manny and Floyd Credit on beating an Oscar de la hoya who can't do well against fighters with speed. Manny was anything but the aggressor yesterday. He kept his distance and killed Oscar with the lead lefts, then he occasionally went on the inside quickly, and got out after getting a few shots in.

He could've fouth Margo in what would've been his biggest payday to date, so what stopped him. And Cotto was an established welterweight that actually fought other top welterweights, he wasn't making a division jump. What stopped him was he did fight the linear champ for the same money. Either way i already awknowledged that mayweather welter resume was lackluster but its not all on mayweather, since frankly, the only reason i seriously think he moved up was to take on Judah, whom at the time was the king of the division, so he fought both undisputed and former champs. At the time margarito was the number 1 welter, but brought nothing to the table other than the fabled offer. Frankly, its the same ish margarito and his fans use today, telling williams to "get in line" You saying that Mayweather ducked the best at 135? AND YES it IS a division jump, when you move from one division to the next, you jump divisions. Mayweather moved to 135 and was clearly the best fighter in that division. Cotto moved up ONE division and established himself, just like floyd, what is the difference?

Amen. PBF is the master of the shoulder/bitch roll. Manny just went in and fought a man's fight. Period.

lol, pac is no gatti. pac is lightyears ahead of gatti in terms of boxing skills, speed and power. look at what a mess your thoughts are. Obviously its not floyds flashy lifestyle and personality that made him nr1. It was his far superior skill. He didnt have to get the ko every fight, ..no you idiot. He destroyed opponents mentally, wheter by pushing and pressing vs judah, or boxing vs baldomir, or in-fighting vs hatton, pocket -fighting vs ndou, countering vs dela. Manny's style is so straightforward, floyd will destroy him, gatti'ish, by that i mean in the same style. Manny is overatted, floyd is very underatted.