Duh
Foreman would win if you put him in now. Arreola fights like a dumb untrained ape and foreman can box. Add in Foremans power to his skill and he sodomizes Arreola.
Foreman gassed against Ali because of the intense heat and humidity in Zaire. If the fight had been in the US, Foreman would have won by KO.
Foreman absolutely destroyed Norton and Frazier, Ali lost to both.
Norton and Frazier as come forward pressure fighters were favourable match-ups for Big George.
yeah he did but even so if ali wasnt the fighter he was georgie would have won even with his admittedly ridiculous gameplan, it still took some balls, ring smarts, toughness and patience for ali to win that fight
I agree with this as well. As to the ridiculousness of George's gameplan, it had been working very well up to that point. It might have been equally ridiculous for Foreman to make some finesse sort of scheme to beat Ali. He had already crushed the guy whom had given Ali his first "L". If the scores had Ali up, I guess it doesn't surprise me. I often don't see the same things as the judges. And they're judges and I'm just some schlub on the internet so... :D Still, it seems plausible to me the possibility that Ali might think twice before granting a rematch. One thing I don't know and maybe one of you guys do is this: did Foreman ask for a rematch?
I know he landed the cleaner shots hands down, but he wasn't even coming close to making the fight. The sheer disparity of punches thrown should have won Foreman rounds, it's not as if he was dancing around and making Foreman miss, he was laying on the ropes getting pounded lol
Foreman took a year off from boxing (aside from the Foreman vs 4 opponents circus), looked rusty in his comeback fight against Lyle in 1976, had a couple of tune-up fights against Joe Frazier, Scott LeDoux and Dino Dennis, lost to number 3 ranked contender Jimmy Young in 1977 and retired.
I thought Ali was winning it. He was the one doing most of the landing, Foreman was doing a lot of missing.
I know he landed the cleaner shots hands down, but he wasn't even coming close to making the fight. The sheer disparity of punches thrown should have won Foreman rounds, it's not as if he was dancing around and making Foreman miss, he was laying on the ropes getting pounded lol
becasue he ko'd him and made him look dumb??
Foreman had an idiotic game-plan in the first fight, he basically lost that fight on his own. Idiot tired himself out, more then he was ko'd. Kind of what david haye did in the carl thompson fight, burned out his own stamina
The scorecards were 70-67, 69-66, 68-66 for Ali.
Foreman took a year off from boxing (aside from the Foreman vs 4 opponents circus), looked rusty in his comeback fight against Lyle in 1976, had a couple of tune-up fights against Joe Frazier, Scott LeDoux and Dino Dennis, lost to number 3 ranked contender Jimmy Young in 1977 and retired.
Then those judges were really on Ali's nuts lol
He barely even made a fight of it until the last couple of rounds.
Even he said he was afraid of George actually making it to the end of the fight.
That says volumes about how he thought the fight was going.
I thought Ali was winning it. He was the one doing most of the landing, Foreman was doing a lot of missing.
Then those judges were really on Ali's nuts lol
He barely even made a fight of it until the last couple of rounds.
Even he said he was afraid of George actually making it to the end of the fight.
That says volumes about how he thought the fight was going.
Ali did technically KO Foreman, but it wasn't really a KO as Foreman was simply exhausted from putting everything he had into punches that many times didn't hit their true target. Add to that that Foreman had to have been ahead on the cards at the time he was knocked down and you have a rematch that could very possibly have gone against Ali. I'm not saying that that's the reason Ali never rematched Foreman, but it's a possibility.
Agreed. I've never heard George cry about it either. Every time I hear him talk about that fight he's very deferential toward Ali. Big George is a class act.
Ali did technically KO Foreman, but it wasn't really a KO as Foreman was simply exhausted from putting everything he had into punches that many times didn't hit their true target. Add to that that Foreman had to have been ahead on the cards at the time he was knocked down and you have a rematch that could very possibly have gone against Ali. I'm not saying that that's the reason Ali never rematched Foreman, but it's a possibility.
The scorecards were 70-67, 69-66, 68-66 for Ali.