Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s Place In History...

I already proved you are a blind Hater with no commonsense at all ....So you have already been discredited... Or Do I need to POST THE POST again..!!! I'll do it for you: Why did Williams get no credit for beating a Margarito that beat a 30-1 Joshua Clottey and undefeated Kermit Cintron (Knock Artist) for the first time (A PRIME Margarito)... when he had (the most feared man in the world tag) . A Margarito that only loss 1 fight in 10 years due to cuts.... A Margarito that had the wbo ww title for six years... A Margarito that defended that title 8 times... A Margarito that was Hyped as "The baddest Mutafu*ka On the planet A Margarito that no one would dare to stand toe to toe with... A Margarito that was even on some prominent boxing writers p4p list Well guess what Happen Williams beat that Margarito...!! and What did people think of Margarito after that fight???? "aww He Is A Limited Fighter" "aww Lost To People Like Larry Dixon And He Got 4 Loses" "i Knew Margarito Was Overrated" As a matter Of Proof, on How I know people like you will discredit Floyd after he would beat a fighter like Margarito... Look how you discredit Floyd after Floyd beat Hatton... A fighter that you had as the 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...p4p. and this is after you HYPE hatton up as the Badd Ass Muthafu*ka would Floyd never fight or Beat...!! TO the POINT WHERE YOU HAD ( HATTON RATED HIGHER ON YOUR P4P LIST) http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2802804&highlight=Hatton+list#post2802804 http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2788538 After Floyd beat Hatton You first Disappear for a while ..too the point where people where asking where you was...!! Where is Wiley..?:thinking: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3417905&highlight=Wiley+Hyena#post3417905 After All the Praise you gave Hatton, You made him The 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...even HIGHER THAN MAYWEATHER..... You thought Mayweather Would never Knockout Hatton... well guess what??? PBF not only beat Hatton he Knock him out.. So what did you do after that.... YOU ****ING DISAPPEARED..!!!! and when you came back, you Had all kinds of excuses ready..!!! You didnt give Floyd Full credit for a KNOCK OUT win....You immediately made excuses, and said how Mayweather is ducking the next fighter you wanted to promote as the one who Floyd really really really doesnt want to fight.. So The Point of thIS is if Mayweather cant get credit for beat a fighter who you said was the 3rd best fighter in the world...Higher than what you currently have Margarito.... WE ALL KNOW HOW YOU will react if Floyd beat Margarito.. You will Disappear, and when you come back...You will Come back Making all kinds of excuses just like you did with HATTON... :owned2: ..

top 100. Will never be rememberd like Calzaghe, Jones, Hopkins. Who actually fought the best. Even Hopkins said Floyd was the greatest fighter of his generation.

Top 30, could have been top 10 just with Cotto if he didn't bitch out.

top 30 or 40..... if he would clean out some divisions (mainly 147) and win all his fights??!!! top 10 def

Top 50, 30 at most. LOL @ TOP 10. :lol1:

Well to me he is the best fighter of this era only one toss up in 39 bouts,I'll say top 20 or 30,imo if he comes out of retirement and fights some more better competition and wins top 10.

I guess top 50.

Top 5? Get the **** outta here. Yeah top 5, you blind haters just can't see it, hopefully the next generations who come in the future will realise actually what a world class boxer he is and respect him the way he needs to be respected cause at the moment he's hated by jealous fans.

Hard to say. he's got mad skills, but walkin during his prime while his division was stacked costs him a shitload of cred.

When People Ranked Fighters They Must Rank Fighters not by Hypothetical match ups.But How they are Rated in their Generation and era..!!! Floyd can not control what went on in Jackie Johnson era, Joe Lewis era, Sugar Robinson Era,Ali Era, SRL Era, or the Whitiker, Chavez era , But he can control His Era..!! 00's Floyd Mayweather is the Greatest of His era. And he was name that by his peers, not just by me. Bernard Hopkins De La Hoya Shane Mosley Ricky Hatton Kostya Tszyu Manny Pacquiao Lennox Lewis Zab Judah Roy Jones Jr. etc. Floyd stands Alone in His Era. He is a Living Legend. Period. the 00's Era is Mayweather's... People would not judge fighters just by their fighting... People judge fighters by their era... And it is no doubt that this era is Mayweather Thats all he can control.... Everything else is speculation..!! These are facts. Thread Closed

Those aren't facts. That's your nuthugging opinion. Want to talk about dominant fighters in this era? Try these: --Lennox Lewis, Bernard Hopkins, Kostya Tszyu, Mannie Pacquiao-- You want to know what each of these fighters has in common? They ruled their divisions with an iron fist for a number of years. Not even Oscar DeLaHoya or Shane Mosely can make this claim. Can Mayweather? Mayweather clean out 130. Learn your History. --Lennox Lewis, Bernard Hopkins, Kostya Tszyu, Mannie Pacquiao all called Mayweather the best of his generation. Manny Pacquaio never puts himself over Mayweather when ask about Mayweather Pacquaio replied> "He is the best" ... Not He is not the better then me... Pacquaio evens wants to fight Mayweather, to see how he would compared to the greatest fighter of his generation..!!! Here is a History Lesson: Mayweather at 130. 130: 1ST WEIGHT CLASS The Top Four Recognized Fighters Were: Genaro Hernandez Angel Manfredy Roberto Garcia Diego Corrales At Mayweather First Division at 130,He Dominated the Division. He was Knocking out all top Contenders. To the Point that after only 2 years turning PRO He was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Division http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_1998 He Fought Genaro Hernandez who was 38-1-1 2 time World Champion. And The Reigning WBC world Champion. And The Ring Magazine Recognize World Champion of The Division.Who only Lost came from Oscar De La Hoya in which Oscar broke his in several places. .Which Happen 3 years Earlier In that Fight Floyd Dominated the Recognize Champion at 130. and Officially Became The WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights. ... not no international or state or any other bullshit title, but The Official Recognize WBC world Champion at 21 years old. And Now Recognize as The Ring Magazine number # 1 fighter in the division at 21 years old and #8 on P4P list out of all the fighters in the world. His Next Fight right After that Fight,Mayweather beat the guy who was RANKED number #4 ( Angel Manfredy) , And In that fight Mayweather Knocks Him Out in the 2nd.Round. Now Mayweather had now beaten 2 out of the top 4 fighters in the 130 division. all before the age Of 22.And the 3rd of those 4 fighters was (Roberto Garcia who was 31-0 with 23 Knock Outs.) And Floyd was about to fight Roberto Garcia, but Roberto Garcia decided to fight Knock Out Artist and Another P4P Phenomenal fighter in Diego Corrales.. Who out of 33 fights to that Point. only 5 fighters didnt get Knock Out. Roberto Garcia was knock out in the 7th Round by Corrales. Now Instead of Floyd Fighting Roberto Garica, he nows finds himself in the position of fighting the #5 Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport, and then #1 fighter at 130...Diego Corrales. and In that Fight Floyd was a 2 to 1 Underdog, to not only lose to Corrales.But to get Knock out. Floyd fights Corrales, The #5 P4P fighter in the sport and #1 fighter in the division, and in the fight compellingly outclassed and Knocks out Diego Corrales in a 10 round 1 sided fight. After that Floyd Completely Clean out the 130 Division with 8 title defenses, with 6 of those fights ending in Knock out. Floyd at 130 now can not get a big name fighter to fight him from Featherweight to Lightweight. NOBODY..and when big name fighters did get approach about fighting Mayweather, they either demand a 55-45 split, or didnt return the call. So Floyd started calling out all the big names Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, everybody. But Nobody wanted to fight. So instead of staying at 130 where no other big names will fight him at. He moves Up. And his first fight was against the number # 1 guy at 145 JLC. KNOW YOUR HISTORY, BEFORE YOU SPEAK ON THE PRESENT!!!!

When People Ranked Fighters They Must Rank Fighters not by Hypothetical match ups.But How they are Rated in their Generation and era..!!! Floyd can not control what went on in Jackie Johnson era, Joe Lewis era, Sugar Robinson Era,Ali Era, SRL Era, or the Whitiker, Chavez era , But he can control His Era..!! 00's Floyd Mayweather is the Greatest of His era. And he was name that by his peers, not just by me. Bernard Hopkins De La Hoya Shane Mosley Ricky Hatton Kostya Tszyu Manny Pacquiao Lennox Lewis Zab Judah Roy Jones Jr. etc. Floyd stands Alone in His Era. He is a Living Legend. Period. the 00's Era is Mayweather's... People would not judge fighters just by their fighting... People judge fighters by their era... And it is no doubt that this era is Mayweather Thats all he can control.... Everything else is speculation..!! These are facts. Those aren't facts. That's your nuthugging opinion. Want to talk about dominant fighters in this era? Try these: --Lennox Lewis, Bernard Hopkins, Kostya Tszyu, Mannie Pacquiao-- You want to know what each of these fighters has in common? They ruled their divisions with an iron fist for a number of years. Not even Oscar DeLaHoya or Shane Mosely can make this claim. Can Mayweather?

That's just a blatant and rather profound example of self absorbed nuthuggery. Floyd LOST the first fight against Jose Luis Castillo. Period. And that was at 135. His resume is full of holes that should contain the names of other dominant fighters of his era, Tszyu, Margarito, and Cotto, to name three. His resume at 140 is hardly glorious. Hatton had to fatten up to 147 in order to get his fight with Floyd. Floyd's resume at 147 is even worse. Floyd has done nothing to prove his own claim that he's the best JrWW and WW of all time. He's not even the best of his era in those divisions. I'll give him top 50 for his work at 130-135, but THAT'S IT. I already proved you are a blind Hater with no commonsense at all ....So you have already been discredited... Or Do I need to POST THE POST again..!!!

When People Ranked Fighters They Must Rank Fighters not by Hypothetical match ups.But How they are Rated in their Generation and era..!!! Floyd can not control what went on in Jackie Johnson era, Joe Lewis era, Sugar Robinson Era,Ali Era, SRL Era, or the Whitiker, Chavez era , But he can control His Era..!! 00's Floyd Mayweather is the Greatest of His era. And he was name that by his peers, not just by me. Bernard Hopkins De La Hoya Shane Mosley Ricky Hatton Kostya Tszyu Manny Pacquiao Lennox Lewis Zab Judah Roy Jones Jr. etc. Floyd stands Alone in His Era. He is a Living Legend. Period. the 00's Era is Mayweather's... People would not judge fighters just by their fighting... People judge fighters by their era... And it is no doubt that this era is Mayweather Thats all he can control.... Everything else is speculation..!! These are facts.

He's by far the best fighter of this generation, ahead of Pacquiao, Lewis, Hopkins, Jones, De La Hoya, Whitaker, Mosley, Toney, Trinidad and Morales, so I put him in the top 10 all time or else right outside it. He's never come close to losing a fight and has won titles in 5 different weight classes. The only fight he was in danger of losing he fought with one good arm for 11 rounds and still pulled it out. I don't think you can rank anybody from the last 20 years ahead of him. That's just a blatant and rather profound example of self absorbed nuthuggery. Floyd LOST the first fight against Jose Luis Castillo. Period. And that was at 135. His resume is full of holes that should contain the names of other dominant fighters of his era, Tszyu, Margarito, and Cotto, to name three. His resume at 140 is hardly glorious. Hatton had to fatten up to 147 in order to get his fight with Floyd. Floyd's resume at 147 is even worse. Floyd has done nothing to prove his own claim that he's the best JrWW and WW of all time. He's not even the best of his era in those divisions. I'll give him top 50 for his work at 130-135, but THAT'S IT.

Is that Roy and Bernard's fault? No. Calzaghe aint beat the level of opposition that Roy and B-Hop have. Therefore I wont put him on their level. Thanks for reasoning.

No. He did not beat the best 140 fighter. That was Kostya Tszyu. Floyd avoided Tszyu like the plague. I'll give props to Floyd at 130-135. But, after that he has problems. Done nothing to prove he's the best at WW. I'll put Floyd in the top 50 for what he did at 130-135. Give him credit for actually losing the first Castillo fight and then coming back to legitimately avenge it. while I think that Tsyzu clearly is better than Hatton(at his best), you have to give credit for beating an undisputed #1 140lb fighter. and Hatton has been that #1 guy at 140lbs for a while, although the division is a little bit stale. Mayweather's wins over Baldomir and Judah are ok. they were champs, but theyre really only so good. his win over De La Hoya isnt too bad either, the guy was clearly a top 5 guy at 154lbs, and while the division was weak at the time it was pretty impressive considering how far Floyd jumped in weight. I also thought Floyd lost the first Castillo fight, but he clearly avenged it right afterward and Castillo is the best Lightweight in quite a while. I would go as far to say the most accomplished Lightweight since Whitaker actully, but I might be forgetting someone.

Simple Dirk has gone off the deep end. Truly your nutsucking fanboyishness knows no boundaries. Right on cue. Keep dancing and I'll keep slipping ones in your g-string.

Very true, but Joe wasn't in a position to make big fights happen. He was a nobody from Wales who no one wanted. British fighters are a disadvantage because, well, they're not American who have everything on there doorstep. Stick Roy or B-Hop in England from the day one and watch how their careers would pan out. Is that Roy and Bernard's fault? No. Calzaghe aint beat the level of opposition that Roy and B-Hop have. Therefore I wont put him on their level.

I'm going to be very honest, i voted top 20 but i've only seen 4 fighters fight the level of fight prime Floyd fought (135 pounds Floyd): Ali, Roy Jones Jr., Sugar Ray Robbinson and Floyd Mayweather Jr. No one else could hit you so well and so much without being tagged themselves. Robbinson still has no pair in cheer skill and accomplishments though but Floyd should get allot more credit than he's given. Definitely the best of this generation.