Why Calzaghe has lots to prove if he wants to be an ATG

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Im not sure what the definition of ATG is. But JC hasnt been able to be beat. That is ATG material to me. He beats guys like Kessler who were expected to beat him because JC was old. He beats up on Lacy, so easily who was at the time very rated. Jermain Taylor couldnt even beat a second hand Lacy as effectively as JC did. And Jermain Taylor is a top tier boxer having beat BH twice. Come on stop being deluded JC haters. If RJJ in his prime had of beaten JC, would that then make JC not an ATG? Afterall RJJ is one of the best boxers supposedly in history. I think the JC haters should stop crying that JC has an unbeaten record. RJJ didnt end his unbeaten record, so not worth going on about it constantly.

what are you talking about..they were going to fight..but Hopkins was offered a crappy paycheck and the fight was to be in wales. Hopkins then further Called Calazaghe out when he was 43 years old. LOL, if it was crap why did Hopkins accept it in the first place? Clear duck.

you can't see past Calzaghes ballsack 46-0 against bums he still hasn't stepped up..he's still picking and choosing..he's still delusional in thinking he's an ATG. I mean look at the difference between other ATG's and him. Ali, he's just starting to get signs of Parkinson's disease, he's in his 30's. What does he go and do? He tries to get the biggest fight possible, with George Foreman. Ray Leonard, comes out of retirement, takes on Marvin Hagler in a higher weight class. Robinson had how many wars with Lamotta, when Zaghe wont even give Hopkins one rematch because its to risky. It's the common trend for "Great fighters" to try and achieve greatness. Any ass wipe can sit back and fight bums his whole Career, then take out old shot fighters to get some big names on their resume. Calzaghe has never strived for greatness, so he will never get it. If Lamotta was was fighting today he would be called a "bum" or a "C+ fighter" by the same people who hate Calzaghe. Sugar Ray would be criticized like crazy for fighting him so many times. Name the names that Calzaghe should have fought! JC has beaten 2 of the other 3 fighters who are ATG (in his weight range during his era), besides himself and would also beat Toney if they were to ever meet. All the "great" fighters you named can just as easily have their records broken down since they all have PLENTY of "bums" on their resume.

what are you talking about...I never implied that, Pullcounter did. Your nuthugging knows no bounds. You said Calzaghe wouldnt take the risk as if its something he should be doing.

This has been beaten to death. Apparently it needs to be beaten some more. Some people are taking fakes as ATG fighters. WTF is up with that? I don't care about Joe but considering him an ATG is a slap in the face of people like Hopkins who have faced the best he could (always going for the best fights) all the time and chase after glory and many others...

Calzaghe is an ATG thread starter doesnt know his ass from his mouth. you can't see past Calzaghes ballsack 46-0 against bums he still hasn't stepped up..he's still picking and choosing..he's still delusional in thinking he's an ATG. I mean look at the difference between other ATG's and him. Ali, he's just starting to get signs of Parkinson's disease, he's in his 30's. What does he go and do? He tries to get the biggest fight possible, with George Foreman. Ray Leonard, comes out of retirement, takes on Marvin Hagler in a higher weight class. Robinson had how many wars with Lamotta, when Zaghe wont even give Hopkins one rematch because its to risky. It's the common trend for "Great fighters" to try and achieve greatness. Any ass wipe can sit back and fight bums his whole Career, then take out old shot fighters to get some big names on their resume. Calzaghe has never strived for greatness, so he will never get it.

Who the **** was Joe Calzaghe when Hopkins and Jones "had the leverage?" He was a nobody and proved to be a nobody until some years later. Even still, in some circles, is a nobody. Jones and Hopkins didn't need Joe Calzaghe to achieve ATG great status, yet Calzaghe tries to piggy back off the careers of two ATG's to make HIS case as an ATG. Ain't gonna happen. Stop with these threads. Who were Richard Frazier and Morrade Hakkar?

No my friend, not to be accepted, to be widely recognized as an All Time Great of the sport. ATG is only there for a special group of fighters, and if you want to be seen as a member of that group, you need to do all in your power to cement your legacy and prove your total dominance. Since when is 46-0 not dominant?

what are you talking about..they were going to fight..but Hopkins was offered a crappy paycheck and the fight was to be in wales. Hopkins then further Called Calazaghe out when he was 43 years old. Since when is 3 million dollars a crappy paycheck?

Who the **** was Joe Calzaghe when Hopkins and Jones "had the leverage?" He was a nobody and proved to be a nobody until some years later. Even still, in some circles, is a nobody. Jones and Hopkins didn't need Joe Calzaghe to achieve ATG great status, yet Calzaghe tries to piggy back off the careers of two ATG's to make HIS case as an ATG. Ain't gonna happen. Stop with these threads. Calzaghe > Jones and Hopkins, deal with it! Joe Calzaghe was an ATG long before he took Jones and Hopkins to school and it's nice of you to admit that "prime" Jones and Hopkins were ducking the legend Joe Calzaghe!

Wow....your hate knows no bounds, you're actually implying that Calzaghe should fight a Klitschko.......you need help. what are you talking about...I never implied that, Pullcounter did. Your nuthugging knows no bounds.

He won't though..to risky for that clown Wow....your hate knows no bounds, you're actually implying that Calzaghe should fight a Klitschko.......you need help.

if he moves up to HW and defeats one of the klitscho's that'd make him an ATG. He won't though..to risky for that clown

so how come hopkins is seemd as a guranteed atg then I can't stand Hopkins, he's a near to hate as i come to a public figure with the exception of Axl Rose. But comeon Johnson, Trinidad, Joppy, DLH, Eastman ,Tarver, Wright, Pavlik. plus fought Jones, Calz, Taylor. I also seem to remember my dad talking up Lipsey like he was the next big thing until BHop beat him, (25-0, 20KO's).

Who the **** was Joe Calzaghe when Hopkins and Jones "had the leverage?" He was a nobody and proved to be a nobody until some years later. Even still, in some circles, is a nobody. Jones and Hopkins didn't need Joe Calzaghe to achieve ATG great status, yet Calzaghe tries to piggy back off the careers of two ATG's to make HIS case as an ATG. Ain't gonna happen. Stop with these threads. You're right, the Eastman and Woods fights was just too legacy defining to wait.

and if zsolt erdei calls them out before accomplishing anything in his career but a bunch of gimme title defenses should they fight him? Nah they should fight Morrade Hakkar and Richard Frazier of course.

He's not an ATG, has no chance of being an ATG and nothing he could do at this stage will ever make him an ATG. 10 years in a weak division = not ATG. end of case study. so how come hopkins is seemd as a guranteed atg then

When Jones and Hopkins had the leverage to make a fight with Calzaghe they didn't. Who the **** was Joe Calzaghe when Hopkins and Jones "had the leverage?" He was a nobody and proved to be a nobody until some years later. Even still, in some circles, is a nobody. Jones and Hopkins didn't need Joe Calzaghe to achieve ATG great status, yet Calzaghe tries to piggy back off the careers of two ATG's to make HIS case as an ATG. Ain't gonna happen. Stop with these threads.

Exactly. Calzaghe calls them out.........and nothing happens (well Hopkins ducks, Jones ignores). Hopkins calls Joe out........done deal. Jones calls Joe out........done deal. Pretty easy to understand. and if zsolt erdei calls them out before accomplishing anything in his career but a bunch of gimme title defenses should they fight him?