Calzaghe was clearly not up for Hopkins

Hopkins had a thyroid condition for the Calzaghe and Wright fights, but you don't see us Hopkins fans pointing to it as an excuse for Bernard's late stamina problems. Joe didn't look good because Bernard wouldn't let him, nobody looks good fighting Hopkins. Why would Joe be any different? Hopkins is a materful technician.

I can have your profile in 2 seconds. You started around Ricky Hatton's nuts (before he lost) and now you hate him because he lost! Now you're on Calzaghe's nuts (clearly lowering your level) and you expect him to be the next Marciano. No worries he will be him, unproven and retired beating the crap out of senior citizens and will probably get a charity p4p rating like Marciano. The funny thing is you started as a Hatton's fan and now you hate him. Do you hate him because he's white, you racist cunt? You're always throwing around the race card, and you do it with so much hatred. In your immature and feverish brain, anybody that supports Hatton or Calzaghe must be a racist. Get a life.

and you'd be 100 percent correct thank you. Every fighter who doesn't look good, etc makes the same excuse.

I think these are excuses because the fight was close and he didn't look his best.

Hatton? You serious? I've always liked Calzaghe 100X more than Hatton, I don't even like Hatton that much. :dunce: LOL you gonna make me make you look stupid, just watch. Seriously, you liking whoever is undefeated is very childish. Once they lose they're utter shit and you never liked them... I can see a trend here. The truth is, Hatton is still way way better than Calzaghe ever was. For a start Hatton took p4p ranked fighters and won (Tszu and soon Paulie), whereas Marcia... Calzaghe took on empty shells of previously great fighters so just he could look good, which is failed btw. I've never saw someone exposed in victory before i saw this guy fight. Him dancing in front of washed up Jones trying Jones prime stunts AND STILL getting tagged showed us as much as he being KD vs the gandpas in 2 consecutive fights. Enough of this, i'll have a search now for _Ricky_ see what is really on your mind (as if i didn't know)

I can have your profile in 2 seconds. You started around Ricky Hatton's nuts (before he lost) and now you hate him because he lost! Now you're on Calzaghe's nuts (clearly lowering your level) and you expect him to be the next Marciano. No worries he will be him, unproven and retired beating the crap out of senior citizens and will probably get a charity p4p rating like Marciano. The funny thing is you started as a Hatton's fan and now you hate him. Do you hate him because he's white, you racist cunt? Hatton? You serious? I've always liked Calzaghe 100X more than Hatton, I don't even like Hatton that much. :dunce:

He looked fat against Hopkins, like a real blown up Super Middleweight, against Jones he looked like he always does just at 175. Calzaghe really underestimated Hopkins, you can tell by all the press conferences, "You will lose, you can't beat me man" was all he really said. He was up for the Jones fight and you saw the difference there, he admitted he trained an extra 2 weeks for the Jones fight compared to the Hopkins one. I can have your profile in 2 seconds. You started around Ricky Hatton's nuts (before he lost) and now you hate him because he lost! Now you're on Calzaghe's nuts (clearly lowering your level) and you expect him to be the next Marciano. No worries he will be him, unproven and retired beating the crap out of senior citizens and will probably get a charity p4p rating like Marciano. The funny thing is you started as a Hatton's fan and now you hate him. Do you hate him because he's white, you racist cunt?

if Joe underestimaed and didnt prepare for Hopkins, he is one stupid ass mother****er. Jones is completly done and still dropped Joe, I couldnt believe it.

Joe was'nt up for the biggest fight of his career! Nonsense.

nobody looks good against hopkins. joe is a great fighter but his fans need to stop making excuses as to why he looked bad vs. hopkins. he looked bad because he was fighting an extremely skillful and smart fighter. and i give joe alot of credit for making that a close close fight.

So, let's see... Joe fights his biggest fight and underestimates his opponent, who makes everyone who shares the ring with him look bad, but he comes in fully prepared for Jones who hasnt won a championshop fight in 5 years. BULLSHIT The only part that makes sense is the adjusting at the weight one.

He looked fat against Hopkins, like a real blown up Super Middleweight, against Jones he looked like he always does just at 175. Calzaghe really underestimated Hopkins, you can tell by all the press conferences, "You will lose, you can't beat me man" was all he really said. He was up for the Jones fight and you saw the difference there, he admitted he trained an extra 2 weeks for the Jones fight compared to the Hopkins one. Yeah I agree, Joe fitted much better into the LHW build for the Jones fight. He looked bit more muscular. I was surprised.

Are these excuses for it being a close fight. Ya boy won I give him dat but **** outta here wit the rest of that nonsense. He aint look good cuz no1 looks good against Bernard.

Nobody looks good against B-Hop. I don't buy the not up excuse. But he still won so why make excuses?

B-Hop makes most fighters look bad. If Joe had took the fight seriously he would've won more comfortably against Hopkins. Joe doesn't need Hopkins anymore - nobody does.

He looked fat against Hopkins, like a real blown up Super Middleweight, against Jones he looked like he always does just at 175. Calzaghe really underestimated Hopkins, you can tell by all the press conferences, "You will lose, you can't beat me man" was all he really said. He was up for the Jones fight and you saw the difference there, he admitted he trained an extra 2 weeks for the Jones fight compared to the Hopkins one. if it was clear that calz was not up for hopkins, why don't he give bhop the rematch? answer: because calz is overrated and got knocked down by a 43 year old. is it shameful that the toughest fight of his entire career is against a 43 year old? is this why this excuse was made up?

right.. plus after fighting Hopkins at 175 he probably stayed there or around there up until the Jones fight He was reportedly at about 200 pounds before signing on to fight Jones, but his body looked much more filled out at 175 against Jones, his upper body looked much better, I remember him looking much smaller in the upper body against Hopkins.

I really doubt he underestimated Hopkins, and if he did, it would have been pretty stupid. His lack of definition can be attributed to him moving up for the first time, his body may not have been used to 175 yet, he looked more filled out against Jones. right.. plus after fighting Hopkins at 175 he probably stayed there or around there up until the Jones fight

the other way around brother. if The Hop of the Pavlik fight showed up, then Calz would of been tko'd.

I guess this is a good way to discredit hopkins loss against zaghe.. How could we do that?