I decided to make this thread because I thought this topic deserve it's own thread., I originally wrote this post to Dwiens but it really applies to anyone.
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People tend to discredit me because I overkill with stats and facts when I talk about Floyd and his opponents. And to be truthful I only do it because I am holding some of these posters fav. fighters to the same standard that they themselves hold other fighters too.
So when I see Margarito Recent Moved By ducking
Mosley for 2 Million
Williams for 4 Million
When His highest Payday ever is 1.5 Million, and when he has nothing on the table to fall back on. I Think it IS STUPID.
Because this is the same thing Winky Wright did after he beat Mosely....
He overprice himself, and in effect mess up his career...
Remember after the Mosely fight, who Called Winky Wright Out?
No other than Floyd Mayweather himself....
and the only reason the fight didnt happen was because winky wanted a 50/50 split. :pat:
Looking back on that decision, Winky have to be kicking himself in the head everyday because Mayweather went on to be recognized as the best of his generation and now it is almost impossible to get a fight with him unless you bring alot to the table.
Now look at a fighter Like Williams who offer Margarito 4 Million dollars to fight.
Williams is probably going to be the next big thing p4p king in boxing. After he cleans up 154 and has a mandate to be reconize as the p4p number fighter in the sport based on his body of work.
Margarito is missing the boat because he is overpricing himself just like winky did. BECAUSE HE IS NOT TAKING THE FIGHTS TO VALIDATE HIIMSELF LIKE ALL GREAT FIGHTERS HAVE TO DO.
winky would probably win. Winky is big he's fought hopkins and taylor. ALthough margarito would bring some pressure and while shane holds his hands up high margarito could break down his body i still don't see him beating winky. If tito was too small for winky I think margarito would be too.
i Decided To Make This Thread Because I Thought This Topic Deserve It's Own Thread., I Originally Wrote This Post To Dwiens But It Really Applies To Anyone.
Repost:
People Tend To Discredit Me Because I Overkill With Stats And Facts When I Talk About Floyd And His Opponents. And To Be Truthful I Only Do It Because I Am Holding Some Of These Posters Fav. Fighters To The Same Standard That They Themselves Hold Other Fighters Too.
So When I See Margarito Recent Moved By Ducking
mosley For 2 Million
williams For 4 Million
When His Highest Payday Ever Is 1.5 Million, And When He Has Nothing On The Table To Fall Back On. I Think It Is Stupid.
Because This Is The Same Thing Winky Wright Did After He Beat Mosely....
He Overprice Himself, And In Effect Mess Up His Career...
Remember After The Mosely Fight, Who Called Winky Wright Out?
No Other Than Floyd Mayweather Himself....
And The Only Reason The Fight Didnt Happen Was Because Winky Wanted A 50/50 Split. :pat:
Looking Back On That Decision, Winky Have To Be Kicking Himself In The Head Everyday Because Mayweather Went On To Be Recognized As The Best Of His Generation And Now It Is Almost Impossible To Get A Fight With Him Unless You Bring Alot To The Table.
Now Look At A Fighter Like Williams Who Offer Margarito 4 Million Dollars To Fight.
Williams Is Probably Going To Be The Next Big Thing P4p King In Boxing. After He Cleans Up 154 And Has A Mandate To Be Reconize As The P4p Number Fighter In The Sport Based On His Body Of Work.
Margarito Is Missing The Boat Because He Is Overpricing Himself Just Like Winky Did. because He Is Not Taking The Fights To Validate Hiimself Like All Great Fighters Have To Do.
Winky And Margarito For A 12 Rounder. It Would Be A Good Fight,never Under
Estimate Winky.
thats great you still have nothing to say about what he is about to do. and how many more months til his next defense or unification?
It's all in the works. I laugh how you guys think you know everything and margarito hasn't even said his side of the story. I guess margarito is officially retired now because he didn't like the mosley offer? lol Don't get all ahead of yourself now and keep in mind SHANE MOSLEY WAS GOING TO BE A TUNE UP FOR THE COTTO REMATCH. You act like it was this mega fight that was going to be a toss up on who would win lol
margarito was a 5 year wbo championship holder. Succesfully defended his belt in 9 title defences.
Anything else???
or do you want now flip your own hate into a post with a comback to me shooting down your claims?
thats great you still have nothing to say about what he is about to do. and how many more months til his next defense or unification?
atleast he wants to defend his title instead of taking extended vacations. thats more important then indian resorts and ppv numbers.
margarito was a 5 year wbo championship holder. Succesfully defended his belt in 9 title defences.
Anything else???
or do you want now flip your own hate into a post with a comback to me shooting down your claims?
Kolle, verno, quintana. Williams losses his belt in his VERY FIRST TITLE DEFENSE. All four fights in Indian casino resorts :headbang:
johnson, cintron, cotto 3-0 capturing two world titles in the process and involved in the fight that put boxing back on the map. 400k+ ppvs sold out MGM.
go figure
atleast he wants to defend his title instead of taking extended vacations. thats more important then indian resorts and ppv numbers.
one of them will have fought 4 times this year. the other has recently had 3 fights fall thru with who know how many offers on the table... who sounds like who?
Kolle, verno, quintana. Williams losses his belt in his VERY FIRST TITLE DEFENSE. All four fights in Indian casino resorts :headbang:
johnson, cintron, cotto 3-0 capturing two world titles in the process and involved in the fight that put boxing back on the map. 400k+ ppvs sold out MGM.
go figure
What were the official P.P.V numbers for that fight release by HBO?
You can continue being a snob about the PPV numbers. Nearly every "source" close to the situation has said it was a success. One of the Scene's writers even came on here and said HBO backed Arum's claim.
Is it really a coincidence that every poster doubting the PPV claims are Mayweather fans? Every single one.
You're forgetting about the percentage of PPV sales he made. And the rematch will surely be worth more money.
Who doesnt want to fight Oscar?
What were the official P.P.V numbers for that fight release by HBO?
:rofl: are you serious? You being a floyd fan should be ashamed of yourself.
Ps your posts are boring and too long. You're not some great sport writer that everyone respects. Like most of this board i find myself not even reading your post but just skimming and realizing it's crazy.
ps paul will is closer to winky than margarito is.
:)
one of them will have fought 4 times this year. the other has recently had 3 fights fall thru with who know how many offers on the table... who sounds like who?
Margarito is now scare of failure, instead of wanting to really capitalized off of success...
:rofl: are you serious? You being a floyd fan should be ashamed of yourself.
Ps your posts are boring and too long. You're not some great sport writer that everyone respects. Like most of this board i find myself not even reading your post but just skimming and realizing it's crazy.
ps paul will is closer to winky than margarito is.
:)
Please provide context...
He made 1.5 million with Cotto Last Fight.
And he will probably make 2 million for the next Cotto fight.
Mosely offer him 2 million
Williams offer him 4 million
What is the excuse?
He is scared to lose again, before he fights Cotto again..!
Because he wanted to fight De La hoya, so you cant say he is just focus on Cotto.
You're forgetting about the percentage of PPV sales he made. And the rematch will surely be worth more money.
Who doesnt want to fight Oscar?
He does have something to fall back on. A rematch with Cotto.
Please provide context...
He made 1.5 million with Cotto Last Fight.
And he will probably make 2 million for the next Cotto fight.
Mosely offer him 2 million
Williams offer him 4 million
What is the excuse?
He is scared to lose again, before he fights Cotto again..!
Because he wanted to fight De La hoya, so you cant say he is just focus on Cotto.
I think Margarito is getting bad advice from his manager, turning down a easy 2 million dollars, and great 4 million dollar fight.
I honestly do think Marg is scared of Williams
Good point lets not forget how Williams handle him before & Williams has that big jab to work off at distance
I think Margarito is getting bad advice from his manager, turning down a easy 2 million dollars, and great 4 million dollar fight.
I honestly do think Marg is scared of Williams
I don't think he is "scared" of him. He may have an overinflated view of his earning capacity though.