For the ones who think calzaghe beats a prime RJJR...

why you always hate on calzghe for you never say anything good about him do you. why didn't Tarver get praised for knocking Jones out then. Why is Tarver not an ATG. Jones never fought anyone like Tarver did he? Goofs thinking Calzaghe beats a Prime Jones. It's not like jones hadn't been owned already at this point. FFS Calzaghe didn't even knock him out.

The fact of what happened in reality is that Roy couldn't pull the trigger against Calzaghe because when he did he got starched in return. Roy's reflexes aren't what they used to be. That being said, Joe's reflexes are not what they used to be. Want to imagine a fantastic fight? Imagine Roy vs. Joe circa 2000-2002. That would have been tremendous. So does anyone have a time machine or some other contraption? No! Well damn, guess you will just have to realize that we got their fight this year and Joe humilated Roy. Good post. Sums it up perfectly. It wouldve been close either way. The people saying it would be a blow out for either guy are the real idiots.

The fact of what happened in reality is that Roy couldn't pull the trigger against Calzaghe because when he did he got starched in return. Roy's reflexes aren't what they used to be. That being said, Joe's reflexes are not what they used to be. Want to imagine a fantastic fight? Imagine Roy vs. Joe circa 2000-2002. That would have been tremendous. So does anyone have a time machine or some other contraption? No! Well damn, guess you will just have to realize that we got their fight this year and Joe humilated Roy.

why you always hate on calzghe for you never say anything good about him do you. What would you like for me to say, sweetie?

True. Jones' opposition in his prime makes Calzaghe's opposition look like camp cupcake. So it's absolutely ludicrous for people to go on about how "Roy Jones never fought Calzaghe in his prime" when Calzaghe barely fought anyone in his! And most of these people know it. They want to act like Calzaghe's now some top 50 fighter or something...give me a break. In 10 years this fight will be remembered as the night the boxing world said goodbye to Roy Jones, not the night Joe solidified his legacy. And certainly not the night he proved he could beat a prime RJJ. why you always hate on calzghe for you never say anything good about him do you.

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nobody fought like calzaghe in that video, what does calzaghe do except to throw bitch ass fast punches? you don't think a prime jones can avoid those fast punches? you seem to forget roy's impressive reflexes (during his prime). no disrespect but you calzaghe supporters make calzaghe believe like he's a god. you talk about boxing knowledge yet you foget calzaghe never always had brittle ****ed up hands you know.

you calzaghe NUTTHUGGERS truly make me laugh, did you even look at the ****ing video?! jeez! only boxing fans will common sense will know that a prime rjjr can BEAT calzaghe, not by a KO but by decision. well i agree roy beats joe but them fighters in the vid aint on joes lvl .

That is terrible. How long have you been watching boxing? Workrate was the thing Jone ate up in his prime. Jones had more trouble with counterpunchers. Why do Joe's fans always seem like they started watching boxing 2-3 years ago? Because they did. Right around 2004. Some later.

Really? care to try to back that one up? Come on Biz RJJ fought his fair share of Bums and gimmies in his time, and a couple of old washed ups for good measure. I think he does have a better resume than Cal but it's not like he was fighting greats for his entire career.

workrate kills Roy. Calzaghe beats him anytime imo. As for Hopkins, Bernard is on his career best form and would kill the version of himself Jones beat. No doubt Calzaghes footwork and workrate take jones out. At that time there was no such thing as work rate against Roy Jones. imagine getting hit with the fastest and hardest punches you've ever had thrown at you, a 4 punch combination thrown by 1 hand? better yet getting hit with something that was directly in front of you but was thrown so fast you still couldn't see it hit you, THAT was Roy Jones Jr back then. Calzaghe would have to find Jones in order to build his work rate and it wouldn't have happened. the fight would have stayed in the middle of the ring and Jones would have put on a show. Calzaghe was always clumsy and easy to hit he was just always able to hang with his opposition and pull out the win, he was hurt a lot of times because he was getting hit with hard shots from lesser overall fighters, Roy Jones was light years ahead of those guys in every department you can name, speed, power, stamina, skills you name it he had it. Joe wouldn't have been able to find him, it's now 10 years past his prime and he went 12 doing basically nothing from rounds 8-12 so imagine back when he had some gas in his tank? he took respectable fighter and literally made them look like nobodies, he did it so easy that instead of people saying he's good they say the other guy was a bum. I write the above to get you to understand who these 2 guys are for real, Calzaghe would never have seen Jones punches coming, he would never have been able to find him with all the leaping and weaving and he certainly would let the hands being low fool him, any second Joe would come in while Jones hands are low Jones would have hit him with shots he doesn't see, in case you didn't know he used to hold his hands so low so that when you hold yours up you can't see his hands, mix that with his exceptional speed, power and movement and it's a wrap. Joe was always good but Roy was a phenomenon back then physically, he would have outdone Joe all night no question.

No one is hating on Hatton, the hate on Calzaghe is most understandable. The man as done nothing to prove himself as a ATG still he calls himself the best ever from Britain? WTF??? I mean, what about Lewis? He is like 10x greater and suddenly people are talking about a guy who had his last fights vs 2 40 year olds! Lewis retired with a TKO victory vs a guy who went on to DOMINATE the division with his brother, what have Lacy or Kessler went on to do? Lacy got schooled by now sub par Taylor (not the Taylor Kelly fought, a much worse fighter) and Kessler is STILL IN DENMARK taking "mandatories" or whatever they now call bums!!! Even Hatton has already taken way better fights than the fake one. Hatton >> Calzaghe imo and he's clearly the best out of Britain in activity! Before you bullshit yourself into a further frenzy, are you actually able to produce any interview or some quotes where Calzaghe has claimed he is "the best ever from Britain"? The only person I can see who has is Frank Warren - when he was still Calzaghe's promoter. This thread is pointless. We will never know if a 'prime' Calzaghe could have beaten a 'prime' Jones. One, and possibly both, no longer exists. If some people want to call it one way and others the either, fine - nobody can prove it either way. Certainly the video doesn't.

No one is hating on Hatton, the hate on Calzaghe is most understandable. The man as done nothing to prove himself as a ATG still he calls himself the best ever from Britain? WTF??? I mean, what about Lewis? He is like 10x greater and suddenly people are talking about a guy who had his last fights vs 2 40 year olds! Lewis retired with a TKO victory vs a guy who went on to DOMINATE the division with his brother, what have Lacy or Kessler went on to do? Lacy got schooled by now sub par Taylor (not the Taylor Kelly fought, a much worse fighter) and Kessler is STILL IN DENMARK taking "mandatories" or whatever they now call bums!!! Even Hatton has already taken way better fights than the fake one. Hatton >> Calzaghe imo and he's clearly the best out of Britain in activity! Before you bullshit yourself into a further frenzy, are you actually able to produce any interview or reliable quote where Calzaghe has ever claimed he is "the best ever from Britain"? The only person I can see who has is Frank Warren - when he was still Calzaghe's promoter. Surprise, surprise; a promoter promoting.

At the end of the day Calzaghe beat both Jones and Hopkins and people will think of him as the better fighter whether it's true or not. You can try and comfort yourself by saying he wont but history respects winners. False, casual sports fans and complete morons will believe JC is the better fighter but those who truly know boxing theres no way prime for prime he will be remembered as the better boxer, thats like saying Hector Camacho is superior to Ray Leonard just because he knocked his old ass out

No one is hating on Hatton, the hate on Calzaghe is most understandable. The man as done nothing to prove himself as a ATG still he calls himself the best ever from Britain? WTF??? I mean, what about Lewis? He is like 10x greater and suddenly people are talking about a guy who had his last fights vs 2 40 year olds! Lewis retired with a TKO victory vs a guy who went on to DOMINATE the division with his brother, what have Lacy or Kessler went on to do? Lacy got schooled by now sub par Taylor (not the Taylor Kelly fought, a much worse fighter) and Kessler is STILL IN DENMARK taking "mandatories" or whatever they now call bums!!! Even Hatton has already taken way better fights than the fake one. Hatton >> Calzaghe imo and he's clearly the best out of Britain in activity! I agree with you completely!!! I understand why people get pissed off with him, but it's just annoying how people start new threads for the same thing to be repeated and repeated!!! Can we not leave the arguement now??? Calzaghe-fights past it legend and tries to disrespect them-good fighter but not as good as people make out-no where near the best british boxer ever, he's not even the best british boxer sround at the minute Hatton is much better than him and has fought alot better people! Hatto-fights the best out there whether he will loose or not, as he is a real fighter who wants to pit his talent against the best, unlike Calzaghe!-best british boxer around now, and my favourite ever british boxer (except Eubank)-Calzaghe's recent record doesnt stand up to Hattons, Hatton fights the best around, or his nearest rivals, lets see if Calzaghe fights Pavilik or Dawson, he wont he'll have a rematch against an old Hopkins!!! Agreed?

The truth. In 20 years our kids and grandkids and all that will be watching tapes of Jones the same way we watch Sugar Ray Robinson to this day and they will Marvel at that gift to humanity. The only place a tape of Calzaghe will play in 20-30 years is in Wales. Truest post i ever read. Lets make this shit real simple, where was JC 10 years ago...fighting ****ing Kabery Salem in his back garden, theres a real good reason he didnt fight Hopkins and Jones then coz he'd have been opened up like a can of beans

At the end of the day Calzaghe beat both Jones and Hopkins and people will think of him as the better fighter whether it's true or not. You can try and comfort yourself by saying he wont but history respects winners.

How long is this arguement goin to rage on?!?!?!?!?!?!? All these new threads ont Hatton or Calzaghe are just the same threads with different titles! The same things get repeated and repeated! I don't understand the hate for Calzaghe or Hatton, there are some peope out there with and un healthy obsesion with the two fighters!!!!! GROW UP!!!!!!!!! No one is hating on Hatton, the hate on Calzaghe is most understandable. The man as done nothing to prove himself as a ATG still he calls himself the best ever from Britain? WTF??? I mean, what about Lewis? He is like 10x greater and suddenly people are talking about a guy who had his last fights vs 2 40 year olds! Lewis retired with a TKO victory vs a guy who went on to DOMINATE the division with his brother, what have Lacy or Kessler went on to do? Lacy got schooled by now sub par Taylor (not the Taylor Kelly fought, a much worse fighter) and Kessler is STILL IN DENMARK taking "mandatories" or whatever they now call bums!!! Even Hatton has already taken way better fights than the fake one. Hatton >> Calzaghe imo and he's clearly the best out of Britain in activity!

The truth. In 20 years our kids and grandkids and all that will be watching tapes of Jones the same way we watch Sugar Ray Robinson to this day and they will Marvel at that gift to humanity. The only place a tape of Calzaghe will play in 20-30 years is in Wales. Pretty much. When all the hype, p4p inflated bullshit and fame is behind us, all it will matter is how one fought and who they fought and when they fought them. Joe Calzaghe's tape will show him trying to disrespect past shot Roy Jones trying faints in front of him and still getting clocked by slow-motion Roy Jones.

How long is this arguement goin to rage on?!?!?!?!?!?!? All these new threads ont Hatton or Calzaghe are just the same threads with different titles! The same things get repeated and repeated! I don't understand the hate for Calzaghe or Hatton, there are some peope out there with and un healthy obsesion with the two fighters!!!!! GROW UP!!!!!!!!!