American Excuse makers.

Shittt, how many excuses do you yanks need to make, its ****ing pathetic. I was reading over the threads last night after the fight, its just childish how many excuses you lot come up with. The best one has to be "Joe's Careers built on bums and old men" Right lets break this down Chris Eubank was hardly shot, he'd only lost twice, both to steve collins before calzaghe beat him. Jeff lacy, he was the best thing since sliced bread untill he came over and got his arse kicked. If i remember correct calzaghe was not even gonna win this fight. Sakio bika, he got sent home with his 2nd loss, his first being a close with sam soliman who he's now beat. He seems to be doing well for himself Peter Manfredo jr, Bit of a mismatch, but the fight would have went the 12 if terry oconnor had not stopped the bout. Mikkel kessler, he aint a bum, and he's not shot, he's the best 168 fighter in the world just now. Remind me what happened? Ohh he got beat UD Bernard hopkins, One of the smartest, if not the smartest fighter in the sport at the moment, After joe beat him "ohh he's shot" then 6 months later he beats pavlik in a one sided fight and he's the muts nuts again, make your mind up Jones jr, half you yanks said he was gonna win, then as soon as he loses, "hes shot" Maybe roy is a bit past it, but that was not a shot roy last nyt, that was a lazy roy who just did not throw punches. Having shot had little to play in that fight, after the flash kd in the 1st round he did not even press the matter, don't try and kid yourself that roy is so "shot" that he could not even apply pressure for the last 30 seconds of the 1st round, he just stood there like jeff lacy and got hit all night, lay back on the ropes and gave calzaghe angles. Theres only 3 years age difference in it he can't be that ****ing shot! Heres another one that made me laugh "Calzaghe will get no respect untill he fights Dawson" Whos he beat, Tarver and Johnson wooopie Hopkins thrashed tarver and ****ing clinton woods beat johnson Calzaghe Would beat Dawson just like he's beat, hopkins, kessler, jones jr No matter who calzaghe beats, none of you yanks would be satisfied, and your always gonna be there making excuses :bottle::bottle::bottle:

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So why are you cats so insistent that Joe make the deal with them to get a fight going if they're not in the same division? Not me. I never cared until Joe brought it up with his: Everybody avoided me; I'm the best, blah, blah, blah. When you are in Wales and nobody in America knows you, it's kind of hard to get you a fight...let alone not being in the same division. And don't tell me fans should know Joe because he was a World Champion: How many people on the street can name the Heavyweight Champions; amongst other Champions. Especially, those fighters that are the size of jockeys.

17y ago

Vasyls_dad

Because nobody heard of the man. And, Joe was not even in his division. How about this: Joe Calzaghe avoided me. How come he never fought me? Roy did it because he needed a fight to establish himself again. Like Roy said, back then, Joe needed Me, Now, I need Joe. Simple. Hopkins: MONEY. In the end, the victory over Roy will mean nothing. It will be the same as Marciano beating Louis, Holmes and Berbick beating Ali, Lewis beating Tyson. Shot is Shot. He will get credit for being undefeated and having solid victories over Lacy and Kessler. And, Joe was not even in his division. So why are you cats so insistent that Joe make the deal with them to get a fight going if they're not in the same division?

17y ago

Benny_Leonard

and I don't recall any sources saying Roy ever wanted Joe, so what is your point? Why did Bernard and Roy wait until 2008 to give Joe a fight? Its not like they didn't hold any of the bargaining chips before. Roy was the biggest star outside of DLH. I don't recall him wanting a fight with Joe, ever. But I'll ask again, Why did Bernard and Roy wait until 2008 to give Joe a fight? lol all these mad ass dudes. Head to head, in actual matchups, Joe>>>Bernard & Roy. "bu, but, they weren't in their primes." Because nobody heard of the man. And, Joe was not even in his division. How about this: Joe Calzaghe avoided me. How come he never fought me? Roy did it because he needed a fight to establish himself again. Like Roy said, back then, Joe needed Me, Now, I need Joe. Simple. Hopkins: MONEY. In the end, the victory over Roy will mean nothing. It will be the same as Marciano beating Louis, Holmes and Berbick beating Ali, Lewis beating Tyson. Shot is Shot. He will get credit for being undefeated and having solid victories over Lacy and Kessler.

17y ago

Vasyls_dad

You need serious therapy. Mija? Okay there loser. Go back to trolling about how awesome Mexicans are. At least that troll is obvious. Tool. I need serious therapy, yet you're the one putting words in my mouth forgetting who said what. lol. Mexicans, awesome :headbang:

17y ago

ottoevans

I thought it was a waste for him to fight Roy Jones. Jones has been washed up for years now. But all these people who gave Roy JOnes a chance are now saying it doesnt mean anything cause he was shot. Joe is an all time great point blank

17y ago

Vasyls_dad

You claimed that you heard on HBO all the time about Calzaghe being mentioned during Roys fights in his prime. You can't back that up. BIIIIG SHOCK. I did? Sounds like news to me. You ever heard of Brenton Wood? "I think you got your fools mixed up, you must think I'm somebody else". Get a hold of yourself mija. You've been arguing online so long, you don't even know who you're talking to anymore. Go eat some food.

17y ago

Vasyls_dad

Hopkins was fighting at middleweight and I cleared that up...both giving a reason why he stayed as long as he did as well as saying he should have moved up to fight Joe, who himself didn't move up for a long time...it took a former middleweight of 43 years of age to move up. You see, nobody I know can recall Joe trying to get a fight with Roy in his prime. I ask and ask, but nobody has delievered me the source that says Joe not only called out Roy JOnes, he sent a contract over to Roy's people to make a fight happen. Joe was fighting at 168, Jones, 175. and I don't recall any sources saying Roy ever wanted Joe, so what is your point? Why did Bernard and Roy wait until 2008 to give Joe a fight? Its not like they didn't hold any of the bargaining chips before. Roy was the biggest star outside of DLH. I don't recall him wanting a fight with Joe, ever. But I'll ask again, Why did Bernard and Roy wait until 2008 to give Joe a fight? lol all these mad ass dudes. Head to head, in actual matchups, Joe>>>Bernard & Roy. "bu, but, they weren't in their primes."

17y ago

roundingace

No excuses here. Joe won, Roy lost. Period. It sucks but I can accept it. This is about all I have to say about it as well.

17y ago

Vasyls_dad

So you couldn't actually name any actual specific incidences could you? thought so. OH also, why did your hero duck Glen Johnson twice? thanks. I can name one specific case, no wait make that two. Joe SD Hopkins Joe UD Jones They didn't seem to have a problem taking the fight at this stage of their careers, why do you? If they were so confident of their abilities to beat the man Joe, why wait untiil 2008? btw, I couldn't tell you anything about why Joe hasn't fought Johnson. I'm not his manager.

17y ago

Benny_Leonard

The fact that Hopkins nor Roy wanted anything to do with Joe is just as telling. Hopkins was fighting at middleweight and I cleared that up...both giving a reason why he stayed as long as he did as well as saying he should have moved up to fight Joe, who himself didn't move up for a long time...it took a former middleweight of 43 years of age to move up. You see, nobody I know can recall Joe trying to get a fight with Roy in his prime. I ask and ask, but nobody has delievered me the source that says Joe not only called out Roy JOnes, he sent a contract over to Roy's people to make a fight happen. Joe was fighting at 168, Jones, 175.

17y ago

Vasyls_dad

great fights happen between great fighters. rjj is shot to bits. the fact that calzaghe couldn't KO a shot and bleeding rjj is a bit telling. The fact that Hopkins nor Roy wanted anything to do with Joe is just as telling.

17y ago

Vasyls_dad

Thank you. The real RJ would've jumped on Joe and would not have let up. The REAL RJ got smashed the **** up by Tarver. Insert excuse ___________.

17y ago

Benny_Leonard

no excuse needed. we all saw how jones has looked in the ring since droppin down the weight from heavy. and just went downhill from there. Well make sure you always include Tarver and Byrd along with Jones Jr. or people will not buy it. Athletes, especially at their age when they did it, fall apart fast. One day you can look good, the next, liked a $2 hooker.

17y ago

robjr

no excuse needed. we all saw how jones has looked in the ring since droppin down the weight from heavy. and just went downhill from there.

17y ago

Benny_Leonard

joe said he hurt his hand around round 8... if you look at the fight he did stop throwing with the same authority and power as before roun d8 He may have, but he may not have. It could be an excuse as to why he didn't knock Jones out. But I can see it being sore from the amount of times he threw and landed on Jones.

17y ago

77Ritchie77

joe said he hurt his hand around round 8... if you look at the fight he did stop throwing with the same authority and power as before roun d8

17y ago

Pullcounter7451

all african american fighters (lacy,hopkins, jones) are godly until they step in with calzaghe. once joe cal beats them beyond imagination they are garbage, and were before the fight? whoever said they were so good? calzaghe ****in sucks, put him in with somebody better. Some people never learn it was no secret that lacy was left-hook happy and not that great pre-calzaghe because he had tough fights agaisnt guys that he shouldn't have. bhop was clearly past his prime cause he lost to taylor. rjj is shot to bits.

17y ago

Pullcounter7451

There is some much bollocks on here. 43 year old Hopkins... Blah, blah, blah, Honestly then, a younger Hopkins who went for it alot more would have beaten Calzaghe? Really this is too much. Calzaghe is the MASTER at beating come forward fighters!!! And Lacy was, according to people on this site (you know who you are) the best thing ever to happen to boxing. On this fight Calzaghe was still winning when the cut happened- much respect to RJJ for the balls he showed. A true great. great fights happen between great fighters. rjj is shot to bits. the fact that calzaghe couldn't KO a shot and bleeding rjj is a bit telling.

17y ago

MANGLER

No excuses here. Joe won, Roy lost. Period. It sucks but I can accept it.

17y ago

77Ritchie77

17y ago