Atleast Pavlik isn't a fu%&$$g pussy like Calzaghe.

yea im not talking about polls on boxing sites im talking about betting odds. since i actually bet on the fight i think i would know that lacy was the favorite. if "everyone" thought lacy was gonna win how come he wasn't even the favorite? at the end of the day Joe has never been given the credit for anything that he has done....he beats Lacy and all of sudden Lacy is shot....I actually personally agree and i dont rate lacy however it will be very interesting to see the outcome of Lacy vs Taylor......also how well Kessler does in his career will also determine how Calzaghe is percieved having beat an undefeated fighter in Kessler...seen as though daggum is so anti-Je my question wasnt answered who has Joe Calzaghe ducked in his career??? Again answers on a postcard!....i would even be inclined to agree that Pavlik has a better resume at 26 then Calzaghe did but calzaghe did beat Eubank an old slightly lost his edge Eubank none the less but then when Pavlik fought an "old slightly lost his edge fighter in B-Hop...what happened then???!!! well that was clear to see!...........also i think it has been established that Lacy was the favourite going into that fight a slight favourite but a favourite none the less!!!!

see there you go.. he lost..he doesnt have an 0 anymore..' this is exactley what the thread starter was saying.. He actually risked his 0 early in his career..so what, h elost too more experience legend who Cal wont rematch and also ate the canvas in the FIRST round.. that bloke... I doubt that Pavlik thought the fight was a risk, given how bad Hopkins looked against Calzaghe. A case of believing his own hype and paid the price. Oh and since when does getting dropped equal a loss? The amount of retards who've made the case for a Hopkins win over Joe based on the 1st round is quite discouraging; given that this is supposed to be a forum for boxing fans, ie for those who know what they are talking about.

These flame threads never go outta style on here no matter how ****in repetitive they are. :nonono:

So much hate. God bless America!

daggum is clearly talking out of his arse, Lacy was by far the favourite. only in your mind buddy only in your mind. real boxing experts who set the line for the fight knew lacy was not the favorite.

You are so wrong it isn't even funny. Only 8 out of 24 BoxingScene staff predicted Calzaghe winning. The rest chose Lacy, and many of those said he'd win in just a few rounds. Almost everyone said Joe would be KO'd. Also if you look at any poll on boxing forums and sites, most were around 75/25 in favor of Lacy. yea im not talking about polls on boxing sites im talking about betting odds. since i actually bet on the fight i think i would know that lacy was the favorite. if "everyone" thought lacy was gonna win how come he wasn't even the favorite?

Utter bollox. Lacy was the overwhelming favourite with the bookies. He was even a favourite over here. 99% of American boxing writers picked him to win with a vast majority picking a destruction. He was a slight favourite against Kessler daggum is clearly talking out of his arse, Lacy was by far the favourite.

hahaha what a hater. Can't take the fact that your one-dimensional punching bag lost? see there you go.. he lost..he doesnt have an 0 anymore..' this is exactley what the thread starter was saying.. He actually risked his 0 early in his career..so what, h elost too more experience legend who Cal wont rematch and also ate the canvas in the FIRST round.. that bloke...

not true at all. you probably didnt even watch boxing then. he was a slight fav over lacy and a 2 to 1 fav over kessler. jesus christ you are dumb. You are so wrong it isn't even funny. Only 8 out of 24 BoxingScene staff predicted Calzaghe winning. The rest chose Lacy, and many of those said he'd win in just a few rounds. Almost everyone said Joe would be KO'd. Also if you look at any poll on boxing forums and sites, most were around 75/25 in favor of Lacy. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

who exactly is everyone? calzaghe was the betting favorite in all those fights for a reason. stop trying to rewrite history and make your hero joe look better. i think you are just talking about people who hate calzaghe and want him to lose cause he has a shit style and fights like a girl with broken arms. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

you say calzaghe fought the best? oh wait no one says that cause he didn't. :beerchug:

why dont you just **** off you prick :bottle::bottle::bottle::bottle:

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=3266 Couldn't find odds, but these were the predictions that the boxingscene staff made on Calzaghe v Lacy.

no i can only remember cause i actually bet on the fight for calzaghe cause i realized lacy was a bum. do you have any proof? didnt think so buddy. lacy was not a favorite only in your warped mind he was. Yeah, Lacy was the favorite going in...not an extremely heavy favorite, but he was expected to "expose" Calzaghe by most in the industry. Seems like I remember some places giving 2/1 against Zaggs.

lol this shits funny. yeah Pavlik can take heart from the that he faced marginly better competition at his age than Joe did at 26 but I don't recall Joe ever being bent over and dominated by a guy old enough to be his daddy.

Lacy was actually at least a 2 to 1 favorite over Calzaghe. Also, Calzaghe was a slight favorite, if that, over the prime and rising Kessler at the time. Most people had that one as a pick em fight. Daggum doesn't ever know what the f@ck hes talking about. He just likes to get a rise out of people with his stupid one sentence responses with no evidence to back up anything he says. What are people going to say if Lacy beats Taylor? The same Taylor that got two W's off Bhop? what then? Taylor is shot? lol give me a break. Calzaghe could knockout jesus christ and the best these idiots would come up with is that Jesus was past his prime. Nitpick all you want you retards. I'm sure all the boxing analysts and reporters in the world must not know what they're talking about when they put Calzaghe at #2 P4P.

no i can only remember cause i actually bet on the fight for calzaghe cause i realized lacy was a bum. do you have any proof? didnt think so buddy. lacy was not a favorite only in your warped mind he was. Make a poll asking who the favourite was and see the results dipshit

No you probably didnt. You're whole existence on this forum relates to the Calzaghe vs Hopkins fight and your whinging about it. You disrespect guys like Calderon and Malignaggi too cos they dont punch hard. You havent the first idea about the science of boxing. Go watch MMA or something. Any proof of your ridiculous claims? Everyone knows Lacy was a heavy favourite. no i can only remember cause i actually bet on the fight for calzaghe cause i realized lacy was a bum. do you have any proof? didnt think so buddy. lacy was not a favorite only in your warped mind he was.

not true at all. you probably didnt even watch boxing then. he was a slight fav over lacy and a 2 to 1 fav over kessler. jesus christ you are dumb. No you probably didnt. You're whole existence on this forum relates to the Calzaghe vs Hopkins fight and your whinging about it. You disrespect guys like Calderon and Malignaggi too cos they dont punch hard. You havent the first idea about the science of boxing. Go watch MMA or something. Any proof of your ridiculous claims? Everyone knows Lacy was a heavy favourite.

Well firstly, Kassim Ouma and Cory Spinks arent even middleweights. I just dont get why people throw their names out there when discussing Taylor's resume. Delve deeper and actually watch those fights and you'll see exactly why people think he's overrated. He did turn down a fight with Calzaghe though. I shouldnt even have to say this, not even to mention he had just fought Bernard Hopkins twice. Ended his 20+ fight title run. Then fought p4p 3 Winky Wright. Thier wasnt any better middleweights to fight. This was also at a time when they were both on the rise. Ive seen the fights and Taylor won both fights with ease. I guess what your trying to say is he didnt look good agaisnt Spinks? Nobody looks good against his style. He still won. Other than knockout Ouma, he couldnt have done anything else.