What the hell is Antonio Margarito doing?

What I dont get is that both Tony and PWill are better fighters than the first time they met. It was a close fight and all. I saw Pwill winning even though I didnt know him nor did I like him at the time. He never hurt Tony and Tony actually stunned him a couple times not to the point of ending the fight but paul was a little stunned so with all that being said why not fight this guy and get it over with why not want the rematch Is tony really scared of losing his belt again or did he learn from his first lesson that being the lack of money and teh shorter payout? I want to see this now and I didnt before

Trust me people would come out with another name like clottey or berto and they would try to tell you how both fighters were gagging for the fight but margarito only wanted oscar or that Rito chose the easy option in williams. You cant please us boxing fans, Well nice debating with you am off..thanks yup is was fun. Later

Its cool bro, no biggie. Thanks...........

The thing with Margarito right now is, who will accuse him of ducking anyone right now when his only real option is Paul Williams. If he fights Paul Williams who are they gonna say he ducked? Theres nobody to say hes ducking anyone because Williams is the only Obvious choice for both fighters, money wise and for legacy. Unifying the titles is perfect time right now because of the fact they both have no opponents named. It would make for a great fight win or lose. Trust me people would come out with another name like clottey or berto and they would try to tell you how both fighters were gagging for the fight but margarito only wanted oscar or that Rito chose the easy option in williams. You cant please us boxing fans, Well nice debating with you am off..thanks

No am not one to accuse boxers of ducking unless its plain and obvious a boxer was avoiding a certain challenge for certain reasons. I also want to see the best against the best thats why you would never see me post how Mayweather duck margarito or how margarito duck williams, All i know is when you're at the top then it becomes more difficult to pick the right fights without people accusing you of ducking someone, Calzaghe was accuse of ducking pavlik because pavlik was suppose to be this dangerous beast, Mayweather was supposely ducking Margarito because rito was this dangerous beast when in fact its all about money to every one of them. Margarito has to work hard to get to the top and he has to chose carefully before he takes is next one and thats what happen when you're at the top not because you;re scared of another boxer. The thing with Margarito right now is, who will accuse him of ducking anyone right now when his only real option is Paul Williams. If he fights Paul Williams who are they gonna say he ducked? Theres nobody to say hes ducking anyone because Williams is the only Obvious choice for both fighters, money wise and for legacy. Unifying the titles is perfect time right now because of the fact they both have no opponents named. It would make for a great fight win or lose.

Dude I understand, I don't know what made you think this but you don't have to tell me. If I was in Mayweather's shoes, I would do the same thing, just like 99.9% of the people in here. All I said in this thread is that Mayweather was flexing on how great he is and stuff unlike Margs who only said he was the best Welterweight after the Cotto fight. I truely agree with your post here 100%, I must have reply to the wrong post earlier..sorry.

I told someone before, I am fan of all fighters, and the only thing that matters is that this fight should happen. You want me to say it? Fine Margarito is ducking Paul Williams, I was only saying he wasn't because of the Margarito fanatics. I like Marg too but I know he doesn't want to fight Paul Williams. This should be a unification bout and they should both be the best fights for each other right now since there both fighting nobody. Money to me doesn't really matter, Im not the one getting a cent of anything they make, and I don't know why it should matter to you either. Fighters should fight the best and thats how it should always be. When you fight the best, the money usually come with it. No am not one to accuse boxers of ducking unless its plain and obvious a boxer was avoiding a certain challenge for certain reasons. I also want to see the best against the best thats why you would never see me post how Mayweather duck margarito or how margarito duck williams, All i know is when you're at the top then it becomes more difficult to pick the right fights without people accusing you of ducking someone, Calzaghe was accuse of ducking pavlik because pavlik was suppose to be this dangerous beast, Mayweather was supposely ducking Margarito because rito was this dangerous beast when in fact its all about money to every one of them. Margarito has to work hard to get to the top and he has to chose carefully before he takes is next one and thats what happen when you're at the top not because you;re scared of another boxer.

When was Margarito the champ??? Last time i checked Judah was the champ(Ring/3 belts) then baldomir became the champ, I dont recall Margarito being anything apart from a beltholder, My whole point is if you agree that Mayweather ducked Margarito then you cant tell me Margarito isnt ducking Williams. You pointed to an $8 million offer to mayweather,but didnt margarito got offered $4million dollars to take a fight with williams as well. I told someone before, I am fan of all fighters, and the only thing that matters is that this fight should happen. You want me to say it? Fine Margarito is ducking Paul Williams, I was only saying he wasn't because of the Margarito fanatics. I like Marg too but I know he doesn't want to fight Paul Williams. This should be a unification bout and they should both be the best fights for each other right now since there both fighting nobody. Money to me doesn't really matter, Im not the one getting a cent of anything they make, and I don't know why it should matter to you either. Fighters should fight the best and thats how it should always be. When you fight the best, the money usually come with it.

Of course Mayweather ducked Margarito, Marg was champ at the time and he even confronted mayweather in the arena and Floyd said yes, but guess what the fight never happened because of Floyd. 2 factors come in to play money and the danger factor. Margarito was a huge danger factor to Floyd because of his size and punch volume and chin. Marg didn't bring anything to the table except for the belt and 8 million dollars to fight him. Which FLoyd took the same 8 million to fight Baldomir instead of Marg. Why didn't Floyd fight Marg instead chose to fight Baldomir, because he knew Marg was a much more established and dangerous opponent for him then Baldomir. Fact it Floyd ducked him and theres no other way around it. Enough of Floyd. Yes everyone fights for money when there on the top, but they also find a way to fight the best available to them and the best available opponent for Marg is Paul Williams. You seriously think hes gonna make tons of money fighting anyone else beside Paul? Who can he fight right now that would bring him more money. Oscar is busy fighting and his second biggest money fight is Paul Williams, not Clottey. Beside we don't even know if Oscar is willing to fight Margarito, so hes probably just wasting his time sitting there waiting for the Hoya fight which will most likely not happen. When was Margarito the champ??? Last time i checked Judah was the champ(Ring/3 belts) then baldomir became the champ, I dont recall Margarito being anything apart from a beltholder, My whole point is if you agree that Mayweather ducked Margarito then you cant tell me Margarito isnt ducking Williams. You pointed to an $8 million offer to mayweather,but didnt margarito got offered $4million dollars to take a fight with williams as well.

All fighter fight for money Margarito included, When rito wanted the money fights he called out Mayweather because he knows he would get paid and win or lose he would get his name out there. But rito didnt bring anything to the table apart from the WBO belt but that didnt stop people from accusing everyone of ducking him because he was "Dangerous"...Not because he doesnt bring much to the table. The facts are when you're at the top then you would chose your fights carefully just like Margarito is doing NOW and just like the Mayweathers ...oscars...were doing in the past NO boxer is different when they get to the top. The Margarito that would fight anyone was the margarito that didnt have any exposure/didnt bring much to the table, But the Margarito that we have now is a different Margarito who has to chose carefully before he choose his next victim. Of course Mayweather ducked Margarito, Marg was champ at the time and he even confronted mayweather in the arena and Floyd said yes, but guess what the fight never happened because of Floyd. 2 factors come in to play money and the danger factor. Margarito was a huge danger factor to Floyd because of his size and punch volume and chin. Marg didn't bring anything to the table except for the belt and 8 million dollars to fight him. Which FLoyd took the same 8 million to fight Baldomir instead of Marg. Why didn't Floyd fight Marg instead chose to fight Baldomir, because he knew Marg was a much more established and dangerous opponent for him then Baldomir. Fact it Floyd ducked him and theres no other way around it. Enough of Floyd. Yes everyone fights for money when there on the top, but they also find a way to fight the best available to them and the best available opponent for Marg is Paul Williams. You seriously think hes gonna make tons of money fighting anyone else beside Paul? Who can he fight right now that would bring him more money. Oscar is busy fighting and his second biggest money fight is Paul Williams, not Clottey. Beside we don't even know if Oscar is willing to fight Margarito, so hes probably just wasting his time sitting there waiting for the Hoya fight which will most likely not happen.

Margarito has the right to petition himself for mandatory fight with after losing the belt while williams also has the right to go after an optional defence of the belt.

It is true. Tony lost and he's not even trying to avenge his defeat. Seems like the loser should be the on hunting the rematch..not the winner. Paul wants to prove he's the man at 147...Nothing wrong with that. http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=15431 Here are some snippets fromt he article from this very website, the one that actually has a copy of the petition sent to Varcarcel..... "After Williams lifted the WBO title from Margarito last July, Diaz sent a petition letter to the WBO to place Margarito as the mandatory challenger, trying to position his fighter for an immediate rematch (letter provided to BoxingScene). The rematch never came off. Diaz states that Williams and his promoter, Dan Goossen, were not interested in an immediate rematch and instead opted for an optional defense." "After the Margarito/Williams' bout, Antonio asked that we send the WBO a letter asking to be named as the mandatory challenger which would result in an immediate rematch. This letter was sent to the WBO and put in the agenda during the WBO convention" Diaz said. "During this time, During this time, with the lobbying and persistant outcry of Mr. Goossen, the WBO decided that Margarito would become Williams' mandatory, but Williams would be allowed to make an optional defense." "Top Rank put the Williams' defeat behind them, moved forward and fought Margarito in November while Williams rested and waited for his next date (February 08). Margarito fought and defeated Johnson, while Williams waited. Williams finally got his date, but no opponent. After weeks of waiting Williams finally had his opponent. During this time, again Top Rank looking for the interest of their fighter they decided to move forward with Antonio and look for other options instead of waiting. Williams was Top Rank's number-one option since Margarito was his mandatory, but fights with Cintron, Judah, as well as Cotto were being tossed around. Judah turned the fight down, Cotto was a strong possibility, but Cintron made the most sense for Top Rank. You put this bout and the Cotto bout together, then you match the winners - which is what eventually happened. But putting the Cintron bout together was not as easy as everyone thought. That bout was not given a green light until a week after the Williams loss to Quintana. Goossen was pressuring the WBO and the WBO was pressuring us to make a decision as to which way we would go. The Cintron bout was given the green light and obviously that was route we were taking since it included a Cotto fight if Antonio came out victorious. A few weeks ago, Williams held a media lunch in California and called for a Margarito rematch. In the opinion of Diaz, since Williams was not interested in a rematch with Margarito (until he beat Cotto),*he can wait in line while Margarito makes his play. Antonio went after Williams - Williams and his promoter decided to avoid another fight with Antonio and instead fight Carlos Quintana. Antonio reigned as a world champion for five years, with eight-defenses. Paul reigned for six months and lost his title in his first defense and Oscar says Antonio is being disrespectful to Williams? Tony became a two-time world champion when he defeated Cintron. Vacated his belt to fight Cotto, defeated Cotto who at the time was considered by everyone to be the best welterweight in the world and became a three-time world champion and Oscar says Antonio is being disrespectful to Williams? Mr. Goossen flies Williams to LA, invites media to lunch and begins to call out Antonio because Paul just beat the fighter who gave him a beating back in February. If anything, Mr. Goossen and Paul should be thanking Top Rank and Antonio for taking the Cintron bout. It left the door open to rematch Quintana. They weren't saying we were making the wrong decision back in February. There weren't calling Antonio out after he defeated Cintron. They had their own agenda and it did not include Antonio. Now that Antonio beat Cotto and Paul regained the title he should of never lost to begin with, Mr. Goossen and Paul are making their demands. Paul needs to pressure his promoter to keep him busy. "

Ya we know Floyd was fighting for money and not to be the best, but do we really need fighters like that in boxing? We need fighters who want to fight the best and prove there the best. Marg wants to fight Hoya, but dang, he can be fighting soon to and when they both win, theres your big Money fight for Margarito. Assuming Dela Hoya actually wants to fight him. All fighter fight for money Margarito included, When rito wanted the money fights he called out Mayweather because he knows he would get paid and win or lose he would get his name out there. But rito didnt bring anything to the table apart from the WBO belt but that didnt stop people from accusing everyone of ducking him because he was "Dangerous"...Not because he doesnt bring much to the table. The facts are when you're at the top then you would chose your fights carefully just like Margarito is doing NOW and just like the Mayweathers ...oscars...were doing in the past NO boxer is different when they get to the top. The Margarito that would fight anyone was the margarito that didnt have any exposure/didnt bring much to the table, But the Margarito that we have now is a different Margarito who has to chose carefully before he choose his next victim.

Williams and Goosen had to hunt down Marg to make that fight..now we know why. so is that why they went to Puerto Rico, the headquarters of the WBO to make sure that the fight went down, inspite of his own promoter's threat of a lawsuit?

I understand but i also wish people like you actually understand why Mayweather was fighting other money fights instead of fighting Margarito..Rito is basically doing the samething now and more power to him. Ya we know Floyd was fighting for money and not to be the best, but do we really need fighters like that in boxing? We need fighters who want to fight the best and prove there the best. Marg wants to fight Hoya, but dang, he can be fighting soon to and when they both win, theres your big Money fight for Margarito. Assuming Dela Hoya actually wants to fight him.

Miguel Cotto doesn't have an opponent also, and so do other boxers like Clottey. Why don't you say anything about them? 2 things about a rematch with PW. 1, PW has only beaten Margarito & Quintana BUT he lost to Quintana once. I'm sure once he makes a name for himself(LIKE MARGARITO) THEN Margs would most likely do the rematch due to more money involved. 2, I don't think Margs would want to act on his own again and risk being sued by Arum. I want to see the fight too, but I know its not going to happen soon like we want it to. People talk mad crap about him chasing DLH but really...who isn't?? I bet you PW or anyone else would brush anything just to fight DLH. Hell even RJJ was saying he will drain himself to fight him. I understand but i also wish people like you actually understand why Mayweather was fighting other money fights instead of fighting Margarito..Rito is basically doing the samething now and more power to him.

Dude Margarito only said he's the best Welter after the fight with Cotto. He's not flexing that shit like Floyd did. With PW, one thing is saying he wants to fight the best and actually doing it. Besides Margarito & Quintana, what other top guy has he fought? How many defenses has he done with his belt? You go ahead and thing Margs is scared of PW. Paul Williams hasn't fought any top guys besides Margarito. Shamba Mitchel was not a top guy no more so I don't count that. The thing with Paul is, he beat a guy who was on top of the Welterweight division for some time and took his belt. None of the top fighters wants to fight Paul, but by beating the Top rank Welterweight in the division, doesn't that give him the right to try and prove hes the best in the Welterweight division by fighting Margarito again, who claimed he was the best at Welterweight after beating Cotto. Who cares about Floyd, we all know he was all talk even when Margarito confronted Floyd and said lets fight. Floyd said ya, but it never happened. Doesn't really matter how many time Paul defends his title ( he already beat Marg), he wants to Unify the Welterweight division and fighting Margarito is the only real option for both fighters if they wan to prove there the best. Margarito is the only fighter that can make this fight happen, if it doesn't happen doesn't mean hes scared of Paul, it just means hes not confident enough to be able to beat him yet.

Marg needs to fight PWill this year and thats comming from a Marg fan.... **** all the he's ducking this and all this other hater shit....After Marg destroys Cotto again, the Pwill fight should happen in September on Mex Independence Day weekend

After raping Cotto, he can do watever he wants now

Miguel Cotto doesn't have an opponent also, and so do other boxers like Clottey. Why don't you say anything about them? 2 things about a rematch with PW. 1, PW has only beaten Margarito & Quintana BUT he lost to Quintana once. I'm sure once he makes a name for himself(LIKE MARGARITO) THEN Margs would most likely do the rematch due to more money involved. 2, I don't think Margs would want to act on his own again and risk being sued by Arum. I want to see the fight too, but I know its not going to happen soon like we want it to. People talk mad crap about him chasing DLH but really...who isn't?? I bet you PW or anyone else would brush anything just to fight DLH. Hell even RJJ was saying he will drain himself to fight him. Well for one Cotto really need to regain himself again. After a beating he took from Margarito, he need a tuneup before he fights anyone of any threat. The thing about Margarito is, he claims to be the best Welterweight out there and you got a guy like Paul Williams who want to fight the best out there and prove hes the best against all Welterweights, but the guy whose claiming hes the best doesn't really want to avenge the man that took his titles from him. Don't get me wrong, I like all fighters including Margarito, but you got to face the facts, if you claim to be the best at Welter, you better beat the guy who beat you and wants to prove hes the best. Paul Williams wants to prove that, but does Margarito (who claims hes the best at Welter) want to give Paul Williams a shot at a Title that Paul may possibly take again?