yeah i said it..
look, im not saying he wanted to play that role because he does seem like a humble guy but.. imo that what he pretty much was.. the next new american white hype.. look at his resume look at him fight he isnt a special fighter.. his one decent opponent was taylor and he had life and death struggles against him.. media was building him up like he was superman and had legendary powers.. going as far as saying he had power equilavent to hagler and all other bs.. like i said from jump, he is a basic 1 to 2 punch fighter all he does is the a jab and come with a strong right hand after that.. he has no plan b, c, or d.. he cant adjust to situations, his defense sucks, his chin is ok and he has decent power but not grade A hercules power like they say.. if there was any other fighter like him he wouldnt be getting the same publicity.. and he got exposed.. he also fights dirty.. i told people he couldnt handle calzaghe, shit he barely got past taylor, bhop absolutely destroyed him, jones would probably destroy him, and overall he's a decent fighter but far from elite, he hasnt beaten anyone to claim such.. he got exposed
People are crazy. He lost to a legend. There's no shame in that. How can you gie him crap and say he's hype. Last week I saw a guy in Peter who quit after 8 rounds. Kelly took a 12 round beating like a man and was humble after the fight. He's tough as hell with major heart. And he moed up 10 pounds in weight. What more do you want? He lost he'll bounce back like Paul Williams.
All you American nut huggers on this forum as usual got over excited about your boy and to think you're always giving us Brits some stick about the way we over hype our fighters, shocking.
Atleast Calslappy as you lot call him got a result against Hopkins, whether or not it was the right decision atleast calzaghe made it more of a fight against Hopkins than your pride of America Kelly Pavlik did. Hypocrites
Now i'm gunna watch all you American bum boys on this forum say how Pavlik was overrated, bla, bla bla.
Pavlik's still a good fighter. He just has distinct weaknesses (as most fighters do), and a master like Hopkins was able to exploit them fully and make Pavlik look shitty.
Pavlik still is the man @ 160 and may have a nice reign in the future.
I'm glad Pavlik lost, because now apparently he will stay at 160. I didn't want to see Pavlik fight Calzaghe....I always would rather have seen Pavlik-Abraham.
Pavlik needs a new trainer. Loew wasn't giving Pavlik any kind of useful advise. All I heard was "double up the jab" in between almost every round. No encouragement. NOTHING! Loew SUCKS!
1. Nobody confused him with Jesus or with having the athetic abitity or skills of Roy Jones.
2. Nobody picked him to KO Hopkins because of what Pavlik can do, some did that because of what they thought Hopkins can't do ANYMORE. They were wrong and alot of us were as well.
Still stands, not a hyped fighter and didn't get exposed in the sense that he still will be back and could go on to do great things at 160 and that the loss didn't come to a nobody BUT an all-time great.
Night.
1. alot of people thought he had insane strength and had power equivalent to or greater than guys like marvin hagler etc,
2. alot of people maybe not u and i sure as hell didnt, predicted pavlik would ko hopkins no matter what.. some fools were saying even if bhop was younger he would still get koed by pavlik
3. bhop is an all time great no doubt.. but im going to ask u again, dont u think someone with the skills of pavlik would be able to do just a tad bit better against a 43 year old fighter??
he may continue to be a good fighter at 160 i guess we will see..
not a bad fighter but was overhyped
adios
like i said man, people were talking like he was the 2nd coming of Jesus or something.. if u were unaware if the hype i dunno where u were.. it aint nonsense to me... he was picked by many to not only beat bhop but to ko him.. and he lost and lost badly..
1. Nobody confused him with Jesus or with having the athetic abitity or skills of Roy Jones.
2. Nobody picked him to KO Hopkins because of what Pavlik can do, some did that because of what they thought Hopkins can't do ANYMORE. They were wrong and alot of us were as well.
Still stands, not a hyped fighter and didn't get exposed in the sense that he still will be back and could go on to do great things at 160 and that the loss didn't come to a nobody BUT an all-time great.
Night.
Listen to what you're saying guy. He struggled with Taylor.......yes but so did Hopkins and so did Winky Wright. At least he won both fights.
Did anybody say that he has Roy Jones skills or confuse him with Floyd Mayweather on a P4P scale???? No he was hyped for what he is, a very good fighter who is still working on becoming great. I said, don't write him off based on one loss to a great fighter in Hopkins and I stand by that. He can still be great.
So again, stop the nonsense and over the top analysis as if he just got humiliated by a club fighter.
like i said man, people were talking like he was the 2nd coming of Jesus or something.. if u were unaware if the hype i dunno where u were.. it aint nonsense to me... he was picked by many to not only beat bhop but to ko him.. and he lost and lost badly.. to a legend no doubt but u would think with all the skills he has he'd be able to put up a better fight with a 43 year old man right? am i right or am i wrong? maybe pavlik can be a great fighter, maybe he wont be only time will tell.. my whole thing was imo, he was being overhyped and i didnt think he had earned it.. not saying he's a bad fighter, just saying he hadnt done enough yet to get all that hype
That's the first thing that when through my head when he was knocked down by taylor the first time, Pavlik is very 1 dimensional but no shame in losing to Hopkins he is a great fighter.
listen jerk off if u dont agree with what i have to say than dont respond or reply to me simple as that get off my dick..
first off taylor never got the respect he deserved he got hated on when all he did was fight the best
miranda was always garbage too me and im actually glad pavlik beat no destroyed him because like i said miranda is trash and wash hyped up
i guess u do not know how to read or just dont ****in get it.. like i said, whether he wanted it or not, kells was being marketed as the new hope for america and boxing pretty much.. i said he was a decent good fighter but he was far from great and hadnt done nothing to get all the hype and credit he was getting.. he seems like a humble dude and it aint really his fault im just saying dude was hyped up and he isnt as good as the media and alot of people who dont know anything about boxing portray him as..if u struggle twice with jermain taylor, a guy for some reason who is perceived as not a legit champion than why and how does pavlik get all this hype???
Listen to what you're saying guy. He struggled with Taylor.......yes but so did Hopkins and so did Winky Wright. At least he won both fights.
Did anybody say that he has Roy Jones skills or confuse him with Floyd Mayweather on a P4P scale???? No he was hyped for what he is, a very good fighter who is still working on becoming great. I said, don't write him off based on one loss to a great fighter in Hopkins and I stand by that. He can still be great.
So again, stop the nonsense and over the top analysis as if he just got humiliated by a club fighter.
Wow so he struggled against a unbeaten fighter in Taylor, who was competitive against a younger Hopkins and Winky Wright- who is difficult to beat. Taylor a guy who never got knocked out before.
WOW.....shame on the hype job Pavlik for not dominating Taylor in both fights. LMAO at the high standards.
Dude you're making yourself look stupid, just drop it and come back with a new mindset in a few days. Nobody agrees with you.
listen jerk off if u dont agree with what i have to say than dont respond or reply to me simple as that get off my dick..
first off taylor never got the respect he deserved he got hated on when all he did was fight the best
miranda was always garbage too me and im actually glad pavlik beat no destroyed him because like i said miranda is trash and wash hyped up
i guess u do not know how to read or just dont ****in get it.. like i said, whether he wanted it or not, kells was being marketed as the new hope for america and boxing pretty much.. i said he was a decent good fighter but he was far from great and hadnt done nothing to get all the hype and credit he was getting.. he seems like a humble dude and it aint really his fault im just saying dude was hyped up and he isnt as good as the media and alot of people who dont know anything about boxing portray him as..if u struggle twice with jermain taylor, a guy for some reason who is perceived as not a legit champion than why and how does pavlik get all this hype???
Pavlik didn't become a bad fighter overnight. I've never heard the guy hype himself at all, he must be one the most down to earth and humble people in boxing. Why is there always a bandwagon to rubbish a good fighter after his first loss? He just got beat by the better man, end of.
you are ****ing insane.. dude, he got knocked down by taylor and was LOSING on all the scorecards before he won the 1st fight..
the 2nd fight was close and barely won that fight
Wow so he struggled against a unbeaten fighter in Taylor, who was competitive against a younger Hopkins and Winky Wright- who is difficult to beat. Taylor a guy who never got knocked out before.
WOW.....shame on the hype job Pavlik for not dominating Taylor in both fights. LMAO at the high standards.
Dude you're making yourself look stupid, just drop it and come back with a new mindset in a few days. Nobody agrees with you.
I disagree, he has very good wins over Miranda and Taylor twice, he knocked them both out and beat Taylor by clear decision in their second fight, styles make fights, Hopkins had a terrible style for him which was what most people knew, as I said in another thread, it was just his age and his apparent stamina problems that made people pick Pavlik.
People need to give him time, he's only 26 years old, a lot of people forget this because of what he's already accomplished, he can still be a very good fighter.
And I'll say this again, what he does, he does very well, no he's not the most versatile fighter but he knows what he's doing in there and he's good at it. He'll just come back better after this loss.
Two posts in a row said your thread was stupid.......and it will continue.
LMAO at you feeling the need to make another thread out of this unstead of leaving it at the other thread.
He is not a hype job. He deserved his position by beating two other hyped up guys in Miranda and Taylor - who were also very good fighters despite the "hype" word being thrown around.
This is ****ing dumb.
Barely got past Taylor? He knocked him out cold.
Just stop the nonsense and go to bed. drunk ass.
you are ****ing insane.. dude, he got knocked down by taylor and was LOSING on all the scorecards before he won the 1st fight..
the 2nd fight was close and barely won that fight
Bullshit. Every time a white fighter or a Euro loses, they were hype. Kelly beat Miranda when everyone avoided him. He knocked him out. Kelly KOED Taylor when he was unbeaten. Then he outboxed him in a rematch. He isnt "the great white hope" he just fought a guy with the ability, skills and intelligence to school him badly. Hopkins style and ability are better then those of Pavlik. **** Im tired of the racism shit on this board.
This is ****ing dumb.
Barely got past Taylor? He knocked him out cold.
Just stop the nonsense and go to bed. drunk ass.
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