Him and Shaw talk about the fight and basically call out the winner of Roy Jones Jr. and Joe Calzaghe or Kelly Pavlik and Bernard Hopkins. That they fear nobody in boxing. If they want the fight to be made it will be and not at a catchweight, but @ 175. There was a rematch clause in the contract, but why would Tarver put himself through that.
With the recent wave of Taylor, Pavlik, Abraham, and Miranda moving up to SMW; the division will be too crowed and not enough belts or money matchups so someone will have to move up to LHW to challenge Dawson.
Id prefer he fights either Pav or Cal.. Although I would like to see Cal lose against RJJ.. but not interested in a CD / RJJ fight...
yeah if RJJ wins he'd have better chance against Pavlik then Dawson because of speed.
Him and Shaw talk about the fight and basically call out the winner of Roy Jones Jr. and Joe Calzaghe or Kelly Pavlik and Bernard Hopkins. That they fear nobody in boxing. If they want the fight to be made it will be and not at a catchweight, but @ 175. There was a rematch clause in the contract, but why would Tarver put himself through that.
With the recent wave of Taylor, Pavlik, Abraham, and Miranda moving up to SMW; the division will be too crowed and not enough belts or money matchups so someone will have to move up to LHW to challenge Dawson.
Id prefer he fights either Pav or Cal.. Although I would like to see Cal lose against RJJ.. but not interested in a CD / RJJ fight...
yeah older guys fighting for ring belt should have priority, pavlik is gonna be around. from looks of poll kessler would have been better option then hopkins
Tavoris Cloud vs Chad in a couple of year would be a dutty fight!!!
winner of roy joe.if roy wins it'll be a sort of passing of the torch, if joe wins.ooh wee.
yeah older guys fighting for ring belt should have priority, pavlik is gonna be around. from looks of poll kessler would have been better option then hopkins
Call me crazy but I'd like to see him fight Andre Dirrell in about a year. Now? Probably Kessler.
he would first need to think about Bute, Froch, Inkin, Cloud, and Manfredo
a couple months ago dawson was shit and got gift against johnson
funny how things change now hes a decent challenger for "the undefeatable man" calzaghe
perceptions vary man, i thought he could beat calzaghe even after the johnson fight... joe never fought johnson or tarver. and your quotations were very appropriate.
Dawson against Calzaghe would be my dream fight, two skilled southpaws with all of the angles included and the craftiness as well. I like Dawson by unanimous decision, and I'm so confident that i would bet every single point that i have.
im with you Slick i can only see a Dawson win and i think it would be a clear win for Dawson i think Calzaghe would struggle massively with Dawson hand speed and angles and just general Boxing skills
Dirrell would need a boat load more experience. He's gotten more aggressive lately because he has been able to overwhelm opponents with his speed. That wouldn't be the case with dawson. But down the line, Yeah, it might turn out to be a fun fight.
yeah
Dirrell is deffo not ready yet he got tagged by Paschall a couple of times
i think pavlik should take his ime, im not his biggest fan here but i like him because hes a hungry young fighter with good strength and power and hes humble. personally i do think hes slightly over-rated but thats no fault of his own, the bandwagon that follows him is something that he can't do anything about.
personally i think kelly should have a few fights 168 after the hopkins bout, otherwise the long term effect could be catastrophic of fighting at 160, then 166, then 160 again and then going up to 170!!! yes the guy has a big frame but he should allow hisbody to gro into a SMW and win the belts there. its not as though the division i lacking in names - taylor, lacey, froch, jean pascal, bute, kessler and maybe even abraham will move up.
dawson will stilll be around in 3/4 years so theres no rush.
personally i favour kelly to walk through him and KO him late in the fight.
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Dawson is a massively bigger threat to Calzaghe than Pavlik is. I can't see how anyone could possibly disagree with that.
Maybe Pavlik sees his future in the 168-175 range? Him vs Dawson would be excellent until Dawson stops him. I'd also like to see Kessler fight him.
Dawson against Calzaghe would be my dream fight, two skilled southpaws with all of the angles included and the craftiness as well. I like Dawson by unanimous decision, and I'm so confident that i would bet every single point that i have.
I don't know why I had it in my head that he fought Adamakm over there, but that was my train of thought. didn't Ice say something about a fight in Germany that ended up being scrapped? Im wrong, but I would've sworn Dawson fought overseas before. No way Erdei come to the US to lose his title without a huge money garuantee, and Dawson just can't provide that yet.
He fought in England before his fight with Harding but that's a different thing, Germany has a bad reputation for fighters traveling there and fighting German fighters.
the winner of jones/cal
pavlik wouldnt stand a chance against chad.. he's one dimensional.. his best opposition was jermain taylor, who isnt a bad fighter, but pav wasnt even dominant in his two fights against taylor.
I doubt Erdei would fight him and I doubt Dawson would travel to Germany to fight Erdei. A Kessler fight could be good, Kessler has expressed his desire to fight in the US, it could be a decent money fight but I'm not sure if it'll outdo a Johnson fight financially in the US.
There is definitely more risk than reward in a rematch with Johnson.
I don't know why I had it in my head that he fought Adamakm over there, but that was my train of thought. didn't Ice say something about a fight in Germany that ended up being scrapped? Im wrong, but I would've sworn Dawson fought overseas before. No way Erdei come to the US to lose his title without a huge money garuantee, and Dawson just can't provide that yet.
I really want to see Pav-Abraham, but just from the rumors I've been hearing on these boards, both have plans to move up pretty soon. Can anybody substantiate any of that?
I'm not sure if anything was released officially but Abraham was having weight problems thats why that Marquez fight was postponed, he has lotta muscle on him. And doesn't make sense for Pavlik to go back down since everyone else that matters is higher unless you wanna see him fight Sturm.
That score sounds about right to the best of my recollection.
As far as Johnson.....ehh, Im still not sold. He might be able to pocket some decent coin in Germany again Zsolt Erdei (sp?) and grab another strap. Or Kessler or Frock might be willing to take a chance, which both could make money. I just cant see the positives of a Johnson fight even though he deserves it. :smashfrea Im thickheaded like that sometimes. :D
I doubt Erdei would fight him and I doubt Dawson would travel to Germany to fight Erdei. A Kessler fight could be good, Kessler has expressed his desire to fight in the US, it could be a decent money fight but I'm not sure if it'll outdo a Johnson fight financially in the US.
There is definitely more risk than reward in a rematch with Johnson.
I really want to see Pav-Abraham, but just from the rumors I've been hearing on these boards, both have plans to move up pretty soon. Can anybody substantiate any of that?
Abraham is expected to move up soon, he was very dehydrated from making weight against Marquez which led to him getting sick which led to the fight getting canceled so him moving up next year if a Pavlik fight can't be made wouldn't surprise a lot of people. Whether Pavlik follows him up, I'm not sure, I don't think he'd having that hard a time making 160 but I could be wrong.
What makes you think Pavlik is going back to 160, nobody is gonna be there for him to fight. and 116-112
I really want to see Pav-Abraham, but just from the rumors I've been hearing on these boards, both have plans to move up pretty soon. Can anybody substantiate any of that?