the official is Roy Jones shot thread ? right there seems to be a lot of people suggesting he is not shot and i for one think he could not be anymore shot
for me he is shot to bits lets get your final cast on whether he is shot or not cause when Calslappy beats Roy im sure the same people who are saying he is not shot are going to be saying yeah but Roy was shot if Calslappy wins
please dont saying well Roy is shot and but he aint completley shot lets get your opinion yes or no
I don't think so, although they aren't fresh, he still has his legs, speed and some timing, those are things that go when fighters are shot but he's definitely not the same fighter.
he may or may not be shot...
i for one say he is not shot, but quite close... he may be far enough gone to where he cant be calzaghe...
Arturo Gatti proved he was shot when he got destroyed by alfonso gomez
jose luis castillo proved he was shot when he couldnt win a fight on wednesday night fights
THATS SHOT.
badi ajamu, hanshaw, and trinidad... are not elite fighters by any means...
but truly shot fighters arent beating anyone, just like gatti and castillo...
I dont think hes shot in the sense of those two... but hes definitely far from being what he once was... with the change in his style, and a 3 fight win streak, its possible that hes gotten his body properly prepared to fight...
there really is no yes or no to this question... we will see on november 8th
Obviously the word "shot" is subjective. I think most people here are basing it on the incredibly high level Roy fought at for many years before. But "over the hill" is probably a more accurate description of someone who would probably still beat all but a handful of the lightheavies.
he may or may not be shot...
i for one say he is not shot, but quite close... he may be far enough gone to where he cant be calzaghe...
Arturo Gatti proved he was shot when he got destroyed by alfonso gomez
jose luis castillo proved he was shot when he couldnt win a fight on wednesday night fights
THATS SHOT.
badi ajamu, hanshaw, and trinidad... are not elite fighters by any means...
but truly shot fighters arent beating anyone, just like gatti and castillo...
I dont think hes shot in the sense of those two... but hes definitely far from being what he once was... with the change in his style, and a 3 fight win streak, its possible that hes gotten his body properly prepared to fight...
there really is no yes or no to this question... we will see on november 8th
It all depends on what you measure it against. If the measure is a prime Jones then yes the man is shot. Having said that I think he can still perform at a level that is significantly higher than the vast majority of other "shot" fighters.
If/when Joe beats Jones' ass it's his own fault for not fighting Calzaghe when he wasn't past it. Jones had his chance a long time ago, so anyone who bitches about Joe fighting Jones now needs to consider that Jones should and could have fought him a long time ago. The same thing with Hopkins. Joe C was calling out BHOP and Jones 6 or 7 years ago.
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all Roy`s fault
“I have no interest any more in Roy Jones and no interest in Antonio Tarver. Jones is washed up and Tarver was never that good anyway. He just caught Jones when Jones was shot and Johnson did the same.”
from 'No Average Joe' by Mr Joe Calzaghe
All you Calzaghe Haters,you heard it from the man himself!
If/when Joe beats Jones' ass it's his own fault for not fighting Calzaghe when he wasn't past it. Jones had his chance a long time ago, so anyone who bitches about Joe fighting Jones now needs to consider that Jones should and could have fought him a long time ago. The same thing with Hopkins. Joe C was calling out BHOP and Jones 6 or 7 years ago.
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And you know damn well that's the way the game is played here. :lol1:
Yep a couple of people have already ducked the question so they can change tack if all goes pear shaped
“I have no interest any more in Roy Jones and no interest in Antonio Tarver. Jones is washed up and Tarver was never that good anyway. He just caught Jones when Jones was shot and Johnson did the same.”
from 'No Average Joe' by Mr Joe Calzaghe
All you Calzaghe Haters,you heard it from the man himself!
yeah but the fan boys and Calz haters will overlook that but they will be quick to point it out after the fact
And you know damn well that's the way the game is played here. :lol1:
he has been Brutally Ko'ed twice and shown signs that his reflexes are not what they were and his stamina is poor and he cant take a punch
Yes, brutally KO'd, but he hasn't been Lacy'd.
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I'm convinced that he is shot. His last three carefully selected opponents just disguised it.
nearly jones' entire career is made up of carefully selected opponents.
jones may or may not be shot, but he is not in his prime either. with that said i think joe would beat jones in his prime anyways. it was easy to look like a god against some of the opponents jones faced. he had a few good fights in there but jones simply should have been making bigger fights when he was the center of boxing.
my opinion, if jones is hungry, he still has something left in the tank but he wont win any superfights. he is trying to cash out probably cause the rappers put a dent in his cash.
Roy is shot. He's just so damn naturally talented that even with his huuuge drop in skill, he's still a competitive matchup for Calzaghe. Which is pretty damn good for a shot fighter.
Past his best? Yes. Shot? No. He hasn't had enough beatings to be shot.
he has been Brutally Ko'ed twice and shown signs that his reflexes are not what they were and his stamina is poor and he cant take a punch