does anyone think that there are any fighters who are be rank on the ATG list and does anyone think theres a fighter you can crack the top 10 ATG list ? please explain:boxing:
Man I'm impressed so much by Floyds resume that I forget to look at Roy's resume and fail to relize he's even better then Floyd, losses or not Roy was damn near super human, and really made it look easy
Ok he beat Cotto can't take that away from very good win like I said earlier that is his only high profile notable win. Margarito's win over Clottey some view as controversial because of how the fight was going before Clottey injured himself. Some will say well Margarito was injured also but the fact remains everybody's body react differently to their own injuries. He lost to Williams. So this 1 very good win, a controversial win, and a lost. That is a very shaky foundation IMO but I get what you are saying.
LMAO at the bold
And I see where ur gettin at too, good debate, but you cant deny that Golden Johnson is a Limousine Ridin', Jet Flying, Kiss Stealin', Wheelin' Dealin', Son of a Gun
I'm definately not making the case for him to be in right now but as of right now those he beat ARE the whos who of the division and a good foundation for him getting into the hall of fame.
Also, even tho he won by the skin of his teeth, Margarito beat, Golden Johnson, GOLDEN ****IN 24 KARAT JOHNSON, can Ray Leonard do that?
Ok he beat Cotto can't take that away from very good win like I said earlier that is his only high profile notable win. Margarito's win over Clottey some view as controversial because of how the fight was going before Clottey injured himself. Some will say well Margarito was injured also but the fact remains everybody's body react differently to their own injuries. He lost to Williams. So this 1 very good win, a controversial win, and a loss. That is a very shaky foundation IMO but I get what you are saying.
LMAO at the bold
The bold is not a who's who list in boxing. None of those fighters are considered great. Those are good names as of right now but none of those fighters has done anything themselves to be in the hall of fame.
Getting in to the hall of fame is still a tough nut to crack. Also voting isn't based on who people might have thought ducked you. So
I'm sorry if Margarito retired right now there is no way he would make the hall of fame. I would love to see someone make a legit case for him to be there.
I'm definately not making the case for him to be in right now but as of right now those he beat ARE the whos who of the division and a good foundation for him getting into the hall of fame.
Also, even tho he won by the skin of his teeth, Margarito beat, Golden Johnson, GOLDEN ****IN 24 KARAT JOHNSON, can Ray Leonard do that?
i think floyd could crack the top 10 because he beat four future HOFers(digeo corrales ,jose luis castillo,autro gatti and oscar de la hoya) he won six different belts and five different weights classes all while undefeated he also has one of the the greatest defences in boxing history. has been named boxer of the year two times (1998 and 2007) and was number 1 p4p for 4 years if thats not a ATG resume then what is
Not a Marg fan but he beat, Cotto, Clottey, and lost a close one to Williams and is a multi time champion.
And with the way the HOF is now he has an excellent shot cuz they'll argue that he never ducks anyone and he himself was ducked
The bold is not a who's who list in boxing. None of those fighters are considered great. Those are good names as of right now but none of those fighters has done anything themselves to be in the hall of fame.
Getting in to the hall of fame is still a tough nut to crack. Also voting isn't based on who people might have thought ducked you. So
I'm sorry if Margarito retired right now there is no way he would make the hall of fame. I would love to see someone make a legit case for him to be there.
Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Juan Manuel Marquez
Manny Pacquiao
Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Shane Mosley, Bernard Hopkins, Felix Trinidad
SMH@anyone saying Kelly Pavlik
WTF has Margarito done to be in the hall of fame?
You trippin that man has only 1 count it 1 high profile notable win. Margarito as of right now shouldn't even get on the ballot for it to be discussed for him to get in the hall of fame.
I am not saying Margarito can't go on to accomplish the things to get himself into the hall of fame because its possible.
Not a Marg fan but he beat, Cotto, Clottey, and lost a close one to Williams and is a multi time champion.
And with the way the HOF is now he has an excellent shot cuz they'll argue that he never ducks anyone and he himself was ducked
margarito is a guaranteed hall of famerif he can beat cotto again and mosley and win a title at 154 and 160 i think he can be an all time great
WTF has Margarito done to be in the hall of fame?
You trippin that man has only 1 count it 1 high profile notable win. Margarito as of right now shouldn't even get on the ballot for it to be discussed for him to get in the hall of fame.
I am not saying Margarito can't go on to accomplish the things to get himself into the hall of fame because its possible.
And guys like, Tony M, Cotto, Joe C still have a lot to prove lol at Joe he's been around as long as alot of guys and he just aint done shit for me to be considered a ATG, now he maybe HOfer worthy cuz of his status as champ,but not his staus as far as a resume!
And Tony M is defintely not Hofer worthy if he retired today... Floyd is Pac-man aint, Joe C would get in, JLC maybe, if Corrales was alive he wouldnt.. Hatton wouldnt, Mosely would, both Marquez wouldnt, maybe the one who fought Pac... Taylor wouldnt, Im on the fence with the Klit bros. there aint a current cruiser who'd get in.. Tarver aint no HOFer
Roy, Hop and Toney been around since the early 90s and why debate there status we know there HOFers... its guys like Floyd, ODLH, Mosely who are proven but still where like, hmm damn he lost that fight, or he shoulda fought him, him and him... IMO
Roy dont count, Hopkins or Toney.. The fact is you dont see noone sayin Joe C , cuz he aint no ATG just a great champ... thats the difference between guys like, JLC and Shane Mosely, JLC was a great champ Mosely is a ATG IMO| Pac-Man is a toss up so are alot of guys..
Why Roy dont count? or Hopkins?
And yea u got it pretty right with the JLC Mosley comparision although I think Castillo could have beaten Mosley with the way he fought against Mayweather, Mosley was a machine at lightweight tho
Roy dont count, Hopkins or Toney.. The fact is you dont see noone sayin Joe C , cuz he aint no ATG just a great champ... thats the difference between guys like, JLC and Shane Mosely, JLC was a great champ Mosely is a ATG IMO| Pac-Man is a toss up so are alot of guys..
I think Floyd is an ATG, I gotta see more from Kelly, and while not p4p atg, I think Jose Luis Castillo is an ATG at lightweight, and Pac Man and Marquez as well