Are Castillo And Corrales Hall Of Famers?

Dice17y ago

I was reading an old Ring Magazine and they were talking about Floyd's retirement. One if the segments was on his pound-for-pound legitemacy and said he's only beat one sure fire Hall of famer in Oscar and 3 with slim chances to get in the hall of fame (hernandez, castillo, corrales) First I though that it was a discredit to Floyd because he convincely beat Corrales and while many think Castillo won, he was still mega competitive with a man on top of his game while Floyd sported an injured shoulder to boot. Mostly I felt disrespected on behalf of Corrales and Castillo (hernandez as well), because of there incredible resumes. Personally I think Castillo prime for prime would be the best Lightweight not just during his era (which was damn near golden age) but during this era as well (as stacked as it is now), with Corales on Castillo's heels, also factor in Corrales run at 130 and finally, the 2 part battle they had with each other and really I can see how the morons at Ring could think that they both have a "slim" chance.

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ferocity

I think they both get in. And if either was in todays 135 division they would rule the division.

17y ago

Scott9945

Lloyd Marshall has wins over Hall of Famers Teddy Yarosz, Charley Burley, Ezzard Charles, Jake LaMotta, Holman Williams, Joey Maxim, and also beat former/future world champions in Ken Overlin, Ceferino Garcia, and Freddie Mills. And he's not in Canastota. Go figure. I don't know of any other fighter who beat the quality of fighters that Marshall did and is not in the IBHOF. The IBHOF annoys me sometimes. The major sports (MLB, NFL, NBA) have it all over boxing when it comes to hall of fames.

17y ago

Thread_Stealer

While Danny Lopez and Lupe Pintor aren't even on the ballot. That is shameful. Check their records if you don't believe me. The HOF is a joke with a strong east coast bias. Lloyd Marshall has wins over Hall of Famers Teddy Yarosz, Charley Burley, Ezzard Charles, Jake LaMotta, Holman Williams, Joey Maxim, and also beat former/future world champions in Ken Overlin, Ceferino Garcia, and Freddie Mills. And he's not in Canastota. Go figure. I don't know of any other fighter who beat the quality of fighters that Marshall did and is not in the IBHOF. The IBHOF annoys me sometimes.

17y ago

Scott9945

why do people take HOF seriously Barry McGuigan,Gerald McClellan are in there FFS you dont have to be that great to get in it just popular While Danny Lopez and Lupe Pintor aren't even on the ballot. That is shameful. Check their records if you don't believe me. The HOF is a joke with a strong east coast bias.

17y ago

The_Texican

Definitely Castillo, still iffy on Corrales. They were both "A" fighters, but not "A+".

17y ago

deuce_drop

career wise it can be debated, although they would both get my vote, but for their first fight, MOST DEFINITELY, their first fight is classic hall of fame battle that deserves every right to be in the hall of fame..... but like i said, their careers could be debated, i think that castillo's record is hall of fame worthy, chico's, yes and no, but i don't want to shit on either man, they're both hall of famers in my book, their first fight was the best fight i've ever been to, it was a great night, a great fight, and one of the most memorable night of my life...........

17y ago

Thread_Stealer

Probably. The IBHOF doesn't have the highest standards anyway.

17y ago

Dan

Given who is in the HOF I would say they definately are.

17y ago

warp1432

if that qawi guy got in then anyone can Qawi was a pretty good Light Heavyweight and Crusierweight champion.

17y ago

warp1432

Without a ****ing doubt. Anyone who says no, especially to Castillo, is in idiot.

17y ago

Miburo

check this out Mclellan to be inducted into the BHOF http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165888 That's World, not International. It's basically a cheap knockoff. When anyone mentions the HOF they mean Canastota.

17y ago

IMDAZED

Actually Frietas and Casamayor are quality opponents, and no one is pretending we being realistic, but we can agree to disagree, thanks for puttin in your two cents by the way Agreed. Quality...just not Hall of Fame-type quality. You're welcome.

17y ago

Grrrr

Most probably no... They just gave a great fight both of them...

17y ago

Dice

Yeah it's not their fault there weren't any guys like Duran but umm...TOO BAD! That doesn't mean that we should just pretend Freitas and Casamayor are as good! They're not...and that's why they probably won't go to the HOF. Actually Frietas and Casamayor are quality opponents, and no one is pretending we being realistic, but we can agree to disagree, thanks for puttin in your two cents by the way

17y ago

IMDAZED

You gotta understand, those guys they beat were the best in there division, and the guys they won the belts from were true belt holders with credible records. Its not there fault that a prime Duran, a prime Leonard, a prime Hearns werent there to fight them, but a prime Frietas, and Casamayor were, and they infact fought competition when they were prime and there lower name opponents all have good records as well. Yeah it's not their fault there weren't any guys like Duran but umm...TOO BAD! That doesn't mean that we should just pretend Freitas and Casamayor are as good! They're not...and that's why they probably won't go to the HOF.

17y ago

TheGreatA

check this out Mclellan to be inducted into the BHOF http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165888 It's a different HOF. IBHOF is what people usually talk about when they discuss boxers being inducted into the HOF. http://ibhof.com/

17y ago

Dice

Castillo might be a HOF'er but, honestly, those names listed for both don't do the trick. I mean, belts are nice but anyone can pick one of those up. So it's about who you beat...and I'm not convinced. Although I might vote for JLC. You gotta understand, those guys they beat were the best in there division, and the guys they won the belts from were true belt holders with credible records. Its not there fault that a prime Duran, a prime Leonard, a prime Hearns werent there to fight them, but a prime Frietas, and Casamayor were, and they infact fought competition when they were prime and there lower name opponents all have good records as well.

17y ago

Dice

damn right they should be in the hall!!!! better question why not Green k for you, extra for supportin my man Floyd

17y ago

IMDAZED

I feel they are definately great, not even about a Mayweather factor, just cuz of there resume and how it compares to other boxers Corrales: IBF Superfeatherweight Champion WBO Superfeatherweight Champion WBC Lightweight Champion WBO Lightweight Champion The Ring Lightweight Lineal Champion Beaten: Roberto Garcia Joel Casamayor Jose Luis Castillo Acelino Frietas Angel Manfredy Castillo: 2x WBC Lightweight Champion The Ring Lightweight Champion Beaten: Diego Corrales Joel Casamayor Stevie Johnson Javier Jauregui Ceasar Bazan Herman Ngoujo The only man to look competitive against Floyd Mayweather Jr. A lot of ppl in the Hall Of Fame have less resumes then this, and most boxers can only dream to have a list like this, you don't have to win 16 titles in 16 weight classes to be great Castillo might be a HOF'er but, honestly, those names listed for both don't do the trick. I mean, belts are nice but anyone can pick one of those up. So it's about who you beat...and I'm not convinced. Although I might vote for JLC.

17y ago

Dice

Yea his heart was huge, sad to see both of those guys go out the way they did

17y ago