If Pacman fought the fighters in Marquez' resume...

I think pac would have more losses, not because of the good fighters that jmm fought later in his career like csamayor and mab, but because jmm's earliler fights... jmm fought in mexico/usa which is better than any philipino/asian circuit. 2 of juanma's losses were from asian circuit fighters. john and pac. i agree pac was very limited early in his career. if he had nacho early in his career like juanma did who knows.

...would Pacman's record be better than Marquez' 49-4-1 36KOs? I think pac would have more losses, not because of the good fighters that jmm fought later in his career like csamayor and mab, but because jmm's earliler fights... jmm fought in mexico/usa which is better than any philipino/asian circuit.

Oh yea I said his chin was questionable in the begining of his carrer. If he would of fought the fighters on marquez resume at that time he would of probably had more ko losses. the only loss were manny was weightdrained was the singsurat loss. torrecampo was a pure ko. he was a teenager and he got caught flush in the mouth. (it wasn't a low blow though it looks like he got hit with a lowblow on the follow through he was already out from getting caught in the chin initially) the medgoen loss was definitely weight drain. manny was the champion and he missed multiple weigh ins. that's why he loss his belt at the weigh in. the need for money made him go through with the fight. missing your weight and having to struggle and lose more pounds right before the fight is not gonna end well for everyone. hard to say how manny would do if you are comparing his 16 yr. old mini-flyweight self against featherweights. the manny at 122-126 would do very well with marquez's resume. juanma's resume wasn't that great if you take out his recent wins against barrera and casa.

Oh yea I said his chin was questionable in the begining of his carrer. If he would of fought the fighters on marquez resume at that time he would of probably had more ko losses.

His chin is not questionable.. It is due to being weight drained. You're nuts if you didn't know the reasons behind his loss early in his career. Pac has move up 9 divisions.. Do you think Marquez can move up 9 divisions? Get the fuck out of here, how old are you? you probably seen these fights on you tube. Why the hell would he be weight drained? he was a nobody at that time, it's not like he was fighting for some big money against some known fighters that he had to make the weight. but maybe your right, maybe he thought he could weight draine himself to beat up on little guys but it back fire on him and he got knocked the fuck out! a couple times. wait a minute, if he was weight draine the first time he got K.od wouldnt he learn from his mistake.

Do you think Marquez can move up 9 divisions? Of course he can't do it. But why Manny can't beat JMM if he beats all the guys on Marquez resume easy?

The 2 guys that stopped Pac stops Marquez...only quicker. And the only guy who decisions Pac KO's Marquez. yes. torrecampo and singsurat koes jmm. assuming the pac from 126 all throughout. i see manny being undefeated or with only 1 loss fighting marquez's career. obviously manny doesn't fight himself twice. obviously he doesn't fight juanma. medina , barrera , juarez , etc. are very beatable. i don't see manny losing to norwood and john. probably gainer could pose some problems for manny but that depends on which derrick shows up.

If Pac's chin is questionable like Cotto was, how the fuck could he jumped from Light Flyweight to Welterrweight and beating the sh!it out everybody without getting knock down. We can't really count Welter just yet though, as he has only fought up to Lightweight. But Pac never ducked anyone. Although it does seem he is beginning to look for big money fights now (De La Hoya, Hatton).

His chin is not questionable.. It is due to being weight drained. You're nuts if you didn't know the reasons behind his loss early in his career. And if memory serves me correctly, he was stopped by body shots/low blows (1 loss was from a lowblow I think)..

Not sure because Paquiao's chin was hell of Questionable in the begining of his carrer, he god K.od by some nobody's and at flyweight at that.

JMM has never been decisively beaten and is better than all the guys on his res. Pac droopped him 4 times and should have 2 decisions on him. Period.

better than the homo's thats for sure... with higher KO percentage. I thought you're gonna say Pac's gonna have a record that would rival Valero's :lol1:

The 2 guys that stopped Pac stops Marquez...only quicker. And the only guy who decisions Pac KO's Marquez.

Who has JMM fought that stands out that Pac hasnt already beaten or probably would have beaten? Casamayor would be one and the Ultra dangerous (in Indonesia) Chris John :lol1:...thing is, would Pacman have more KOs, less defeats...