Trying to negotiate with a totally shot, 45+ year old Ray Mercer because he has 'no other options'.
Tony Thompson called him out. considering that Tony just gave Wladimir one of his toughest fights in a long time, youd think that Haye would want to jump on the opportunity and do better than Wlad did...that would put him at the top of the Heavyweight rankings.
is it possible that Haye fears Tony Thompson? :birthday:
maybe Haye is...a gutless wonder?
are you kidding me? Chagaev gets tired in almost all his fights that go long, most noticably against John Ruiz.
Valuev only can keep his breath because practically all he does is jab.
Povetkin has good stamina.
Povetkin got a shitty defense and gonna get KO'd by Wlad. Haye will take the Chambers, Johnson, Barrett or Chapman fight soon here and were all gonna shut up, vote on who will win and then that's the end of it. This Mercer business is bullshit, Haye is gonna choose one of the above and it's a done deal.
Thompson is better than 2008 age 47 Mercer
Johnson is better than clubfighter JD Chapman
Chambers is better than shot 2008 Rahman
If Haye really is a top heavyweight, he should choose one of the three fighters on the left.
I wanted Haye to fight Sultan Ibragimov since he called him a bum and it would be a good gage to see if he was a legitimate HW before he gets a title shot.
not everyone has the body type to get 6 pack abs. you dont have to be muscular to be in shape. stamina tells the story and all three of those guys have good stamina and can fight at a good pace so theyre in shape my friend
are you kidding me? Chagaev gets tired in almost all his fights that go long, most noticably against John Ruiz.
Valuev only can keep his breath because practically all he does is jab.
Povetkin has good stamina.
Haye should be a man, and fight Kevin Johnson.
Johnson hits even weaker than Tony Thompson(which is saying something), and his punchrate is horrendous.
It stands to reason that if Thompson is calling him out...and he has no other real opponents other than a 47 year old man...and he said he wanted to fight a top fighter in the division...that he should fight Thompson.
unless theres something in the way. like...fear.
Its his first fight fight in his new heavy weight career, I dont think he should bite off more than he can chew till he settles into the weight.
I agree Mercer is an old man and I expected better but accoprding to Hayes camp they are struggling to get an opponent big style.
As for him being a coward?- how many of you lot calling him a coward have stepped in a ring and fought someone? if youv done that then come back and tell me he is a coward.
Also Haye went to France and beat Mormeck when he was a champ- why would he do that if he was a coward?
He then went back down to Crusier despite saying he could only perform at "70 per cent at that weight" to fight Enzo Macrnelli his biggest rival at Crusier weight, despite the fact he had won the ring belt at crusier and didnt have anything left to prove. He faced him for the fans in a fight which he had little to gain and everything to lose.
Coward my arse.
Ask the WBO to rank Mercer in their top 10? jeeeezz, Haye is really a desperate for an easy, profitable walkover. I hope the fans boycott this if it really happens.
Just pick up a challenge!
Rahman, Toney, Chambers, Thompson, K. Johnson, Monte, Bell, Skelton, are all at hand.
Totally agree. I wouldn't mind seeing JD Chapman get KO'd into oblivion and forget about his prospect status ya know? For his second fight there can always be Kevin Johnson or Eddie Chambers. Then after two fights Wlad could choose to fight Haye with his voluntary defense in mid-2009.
Haye should be a man, and fight Kevin Johnson.
Or Tony T, that would be a great test. Or Chambers. Either of those 3 would be good. And I think Tony would have a good chance of winning (Good chin and defense, he could last later into the fight where Haye may gas). Chambers could also beat him, but I think Haye would beat Kevin J no doubt.
Haye, please deliver on what you said. I respected Haye because, while he was talking, if he backed it up then it's good. He said he was going to fight all top guys, no tomato cans or bums, but he seems to be doing the opposite :nonono:
Trying to negotiate with a totally shot, 45+ year old Ray Mercer because he has 'no other options'.
Tony Thompson called him out. considering that Tony just gave Wladimir one of his toughest fights in a long time, youd think that Haye would want to jump on the opportunity and do better than Wlad did...that would put him at the top of the Heavyweight rankings.
is it possible that Haye fears Tony Thompson? :birthday:
maybe Haye is...a gutless wonder?
There has never been anything offical saying Haye has ever opened talks with Mercer, Ok this Chapman guy isnt very good but that is who Haye will most likely be fighting, I would have like to see him fight Barrett but as long as he is one step closer to Wlad who cares.
Povetkin,Chagaev,Valuev look in good shape to you
not everyone has the body type to get 6 pack abs. you dont have to be muscular to be in shape. stamina tells the story and all three of those guys have good stamina and can fight at a good pace so theyre in shape my friend
equally Haye could end Wlads HW reign
equally my a$$. haye hasnt even shown yet that he can ice big quality heavyweights yet,,while wlad has knocked out 45 heavies and is a better defensive fighter than haye. come on man. haye has been stopped and wobbled by guys with a fraction of the power of wlad. haye is going to fall hard from the first so much as grazing left or right from wlad. haye has to make a hell of a lot less mistakes than wlad
he just wants to jump to Wlad straight away, and see if he can catch Klitschko's weak chin early.
i doubt haye can get inside, and if his chin is as weak as people say, then i doubt he will stay in long against klitschko, cause when wlad is on, he hits, and he hits fucking HARD.
say what you want about wlads chin, but for a big man, he sure has a fantastic defense dont you think?
in anycase he is better than Tony Thompson like i said Thompson is slow one paced and methodical
Haye is not going to struggle with that kind of oponent regardless how poor a HW he turns out to be
no disrespect to Thompson he seems like a decent guy
thompson would beat haye. he's a big awkward guy and would wear haye out and stop him late. thompson is slow but he's crafty and awkwardly clever. I doubt very much they'd match haye with a big sturdy heavyweight that can go rounds
my personal pick, if haye wants to make a statement would be to fight either monte barrett or tony thompson.
other choices:
ibragimov
briggs (preferably not but i guess better than mercer)
holyfield (old and washed up, really just needs to be boycotted...still better than mercer)
chambers
lamon brewster (i think haye would get fucked up)
hasim rahman
james toney
oleg maskiev
i bet all of those guys would take a fight from haye, but yet haye is calling out no bodies, then when they respond to his call out, he gets all scared.
ive never seen anyone talk so much trash and look like THAT much of a sissy.
Show me something that proves Haye's camp have been in talks with Mercer
he's definitely trying to get a fight with jd chapman who's probably even worst than an old shot mercer. the guy is so slow and has no ability at all. he's just been fed bum after bum. Im losing respect for haye. he's clearly taking the easy road to wlad and just looking to cash out. deep down I dont even think he feels he can beat a hard punching heavyweight. his shit talking just makes him look like a bigger idiot
Well being a coward is synonymous with being English....but Haye is really Jamaican and represent Turkish Cypriots on his shorts.
How is he really jamaican?
You are mixing you English with the French too.
Trying to negotiate with a totally shot, 45+ year old Ray Mercer because he has 'no other options'.
Tony Thompson called him out. considering that Tony just gave Wladimir one of his toughest fights in a long time, youd think that Haye would want to jump on the opportunity and do better than Wlad did...that would put him at the top of the Heavyweight rankings.
is it possible that Haye fears Tony Thompson? :birthday:
maybe Haye is...a gutless wonder?
How many fights do you have, chief?
haha yea, Thompson is slow as hell and cant really punch hard either.
otherwise, he wouldve beaten Wlad. a damn shame, but you cant just magically give fighters those qualities.
that being said, Thompson would BREAK Haye. I think Haye knows that, thats why he refuses to fight anyway worthwhile...he just wants to jump to Wlad straight away, and see if he can catch Klitschko's weak chin early.
i cant see Tony Thompson beating him
all i know is he is making a fool of himself at the moment he should just fight a respected up and comer like Chambers
Thompson is to slow he looked slow against Wlad he would look like a snail against Haye
Thompson has a good D but the problem is Haye would take adavantage of that high gloves type defence that Thompson has he would rattle of punches and keep Thompson playing D whilst winning rounds
Thompson is too one dimmensional and slow to beat Haye
haha yea, Thompson is slow as hell and cant really punch hard either.
otherwise, he wouldve beaten Wlad. a damn shame, but you cant just magically give fighters those qualities.
that being said, Thompson would BREAK Haye. I think Haye knows that, thats why he refuses to fight anyway worthwhile...he just wants to jump to Wlad straight away, and see if he can catch Klitschko's weak chin early.