Fucking HILARIOUS How Some Pac Fans Are Thowing The "Age" Excuse To Discredit JMM Win

JMM was robbed two times! Sarcasm: you're always doing this to me! LOL 4. he got robbed by norwood , john and twice by pacquiao. also his 1st loss was a bad disqualification and shouldn't count. juanma is undefeated!!!!!!!!!!! juanma is #1 p4p you dumb pinoys!!!!!!!!!!!

raheem was not in manny's division. manny was at 130. the erik-zahir fight was at 135. manny fought marco first then erik. marco was the best at 126 when they met in 2003. one could argue sasakul was the best at 112 at the time manny beat him. erik was the man at 130 the fight before his 1st fight with manny. he lost to marco who pac had already beat. jmm is #1 even though manny beat him? :nonono: JMM was robbed two times! Sarcasm: you're always doing this to me! LOL

Honestly Pac 2nd and third wins over Morrales were predicted and it was a shame he fought Eric at this stage(Eric was/is shot) ZAHIR RAHEEM had just whipped Eric's azz easily and Pac still wanted to fight Eric(It was for the $$$). Pac did not want to face RAHEEM or another top guy in his division. IM NOT saying he can or can not beat the other guys, but he chose to face an older battered champ as Eric then Barrera... Now he's facing Oscar(A disgraceful boxer for facing Pac)! I'm pulling for lil Pac. But Pac has NOT faced the best in several years besides JMM. When Pac faced Eric, Barrera etc hmmm were they "The Men"? NOPE JMM BEAT and KO'd he BEST! PERIOD!!! Regardless of age Cass was "The Champ" "The Man" and "#1" in his class... Let Pac face Nate Campbell then the winner face JMM in April! JMM should be #1 after last nights performance IMO, because of his quality of opposition. raheem was not in manny's division. manny was at 130. the erik-zahir fight was at 135. manny fought marco first then erik. marco was the best at 126 when they met in 2003. one could argue sasakul was the best at 112 at the time manny beat him. erik was the man at 130 the fight before his 1st fight with manny. he lost to marco who pac had already beat. jmm is #1 even though manny beat him? :nonono:

Honestly Pac 2nd and third wins over Morrales were predicted and it was a shame he fought Eric at this stage(Eric was/is shot) ZAHIR RAHEEM had just whipped Eric's azz easily and Pac still wanted to fight Eric(It was for the $$$). Pac did not want to face RAHEEM or another top guy in his division. IM NOT saying he can or can not beat the other guys, but he chose to face an older battered champ as Eric then Barrera... Now he's facing Oscar(A disgraceful boxer for facing Pac)! I'm pulling for lil Pac. But Pac has NOT faced the best in several years besides JMM. When Pac faced Eric, Barrera etc hmmm were they "The Men"? NOPE JMM BEAT and KO'd he BEST! PERIOD!!! Regardless of age Cass was "The Champ" "The Man" and "#1" in his class... Let Pac face Nate Campbell then the winner face JMM in April! JMM should be #1 after last nights performance IMO, because of his quality of opposition.

Is anyone actually surprised that Marquez won? Or go as far as to say this was an upset victory?? I mean give Marquez his props but let's keep it real

the thing is a lot of people, including me, were saying Casamayor looked terrible against Katsidis, who is not a good fighter at all. Katsidis showed how bad he is against Diaz yet he gave Casamayor hell. I said several times before this fight that Joel had no shot based on the way he struggled with Katsidis and that was before I saw Katsidis get dominated by Diaz, which REALLY confirmed that Casa can't cut it anymore. Not saying Casa would have beat Marquez four years ago, but Casa is so far past his best it's unreal. Everybody saw that back in November of last year really when he was clearly beaten by Santa Cruz. He lost like 3 rounds. He got his ass kicked in the middle rounds, but then he regained himself and was winning the fight. Anyone who had Katsidis must have been :alcoholic That and Casamayor held his own with Marquez. Yes he was past his prime, but he wasn't shot.

the thing is a lot of people, including me, were saying Casamayor looked terrible against Katsidis, who is not a good fighter at all. Katsidis showed how bad he is against Diaz yet he gave Casamayor hell. I said several times before this fight that Joel had no shot based on the way he struggled with Katsidis and that was before I saw Katsidis get dominated by Diaz, which REALLY confirmed that Casa can't cut it anymore. Not saying Casa would have beat Marquez four years ago, but Casa is so far past his best it's unreal. Everybody saw that back in November of last year really when he was clearly beaten by Santa Cruz. You didnt think Casa looked game this fight? Because I was one of those that said Casa was done too, and he surprised me. He was holding his own, and even started to come on in the 10th round before JMM put him on the deck a few minutes later.

Marquez gets credit from me not for winning but for the way he won - he knocked out a guy who stood up to Corrales, Castillo, and Freitas

the thing is a lot of people, including me, were saying Casamayor looked terrible against Katsidis, who is not a good fighter at all. Katsidis showed how bad he is against Diaz yet he gave Casamayor hell. I said several times before this fight that Joel had no shot based on the way he struggled with Katsidis and that was before I saw Katsidis get dominated by Diaz, which REALLY confirmed that Casa can't cut it anymore. Not saying Casa would have beat Marquez four years ago, but Casa is so far past his best it's unreal. Everybody saw that back in November of last year really when he was clearly beaten by Santa Cruz.

Read my post again, I said the first time PAC fought MAB, EM, and JMM, they were all on the P4P list so they were nowhere near as shot as CASA is now...POINT ONE... I knew someone was going to say triangle theory, BUT, in this case triangle theory doesnrt apply because you'll be hard pressed to find anyone that doesnt think PAC would beat CASA or Santa Cruz... Except the haters on this site... Not really because Morales had just lost to Barrera before then for a 2nd time. I'm not really sure what your point is with Marquez and Morales the first time since once he lost and he drew, and personally thought he lost, with Marquez. The Barrera win was fantastic though. Especially since Barrera racked up such quality wins after. And I agree that Pacquiao would beat Casamayor and Santa Cruz, but Casamayor would do equally as good of a job that against Pacquaio as he did against Marquez.

I swear, you Mexican nuthuggers are the the ultimate jock riders by far.... To even assume that Morales, Berrera, JMM, were as shot (when Pac first fought them) as Casa is now is fukkin ridiculous... Was Morales, Barerra, JMM, not on the P4P list when PAC first fought them??? NOW, where is CASA's place on the P4P list as of two days ago????You nut slobbers dont think anyone else has tvs????? Was CASA not thoroughly beaten by Santa Cruz, who got knocked out by Diaz, who PAC made look like his son???? Just fukkin imagine if PAC chose to fight CASA and knocked his ass out??? You homos would be saying the same old shit.... Please, take your double standards and shove them up JMMs ass... He might like it... Morales the second time and especially the third was more shot then Casamayor. The Morales wins are very good for Pacquiao, but Casamayor had more left in the tank then Morales those times. Also Casamayor is way better then Diaz. Triangle theories don't work especially since Santa Cruz was beating his ass until he got caught and knocked out.

See 2501 v2.0, read your thread and look who first threw the lowblows(¡VIVA MEXICO!)

pacquiao fans are very ignorant. pacquiao is a good fighter but he cannot beat an elite mexican in his prime. he lost to morales in his prime and he lost twice to prime jmm. jmm is just a much better fighter than him and they are scared to admit this fact. its just plain and basic common sense. ignorance. an elite fighter is an elite fighter. no matter the race. the fact that you said elite "mexican" makes you look stupid. if you want to talk seriously. name a level/fighter that manny can't beat NOT the race manny can't beat.

I mean, this are the same dudes who are always complaining bout people saying Morales and Barrera were passed their prime and now they seem so bothered by the amount of credit Marquez is getting for the win. You guys are running your mouths saying the win isnt shit because Casa was passed his prime? So then we can go ahead and disregard Manny's win over Morales and Barrera right? You guys wont have a problem with that...............oh but wait, if we do that, thats practically most of Pacquiao's resume. You guys TRULY cannot be this stupid. Do you even think about what you post? Give JMM the credit he deserves. JMM, a SMALL Jr. Lightweight, moved up to 135 to CHALLENGE THE division's Lightweight Champion who just happened to be one of Boxing's most craftiest and knowledgeable figthers, who also happened to knock out one of the division's most violent and able fighters in Michael Katisidis and OUTBOX and KNOCK HIM OUT. I am a Pac fan as well. Chups, Shadefizzle, Left Hook Tua all can vouch for me as I have defended Pac manny a times on this forum. But you fools cant discredit Marquez's win when Manny moved up and challenged the division's WEAKEST Champion to test the waters at Lightweight. Dont make yourselves seem stupid. JMM just earned his #2 spot behind Pacquiao. I agree with this and those Pacquiao fans who are doing this are stupid. What they should do is - praise JMM for beating Casamayor because it makes Pacquiao win over him look better. You don't belittle JMM - a guy Pacquiao holds 2 victories against. That makes Pacquiao look weak since he had two close victories against him who some think he should've lost.

pacquiao fans are very ignorant. pacquiao is a good fighter but he cannot beat an elite mexican in his prime. he lost to morales in his prime and he lost twice to prime jmm. jmm is just a much better fighter than him and they are scared to admit this fact. its just plain and basic common sense. He beat Barrera in his prime....

pacquiao fans are very ignorant. pacquiao is a good fighter but he cannot beat an elite mexican in his prime. he lost to morales in his prime and he lost twice to prime jmm. jmm is just a much better fighter than him and they are scared to admit this fact. its just plain and basic common sense. first you say shit like this, then you say shit like this.shut up.

they're 2 years apart.................

Your basically doing the same way. thats a fact though and the first time I've ever said that. I've never discredited any of Pac's wins except the 3rd Morales win. I've given Manny his props many times and I'm happy that someone like him is #1 p4p.

agreed. rafael would fuck bobby up. don't matter if bobby comes in at 140. Couldn't agree more

Marquez is better than Pacquaio. agreed. rafael would fuck bobby up. don't matter if bobby comes in at 140.