hmmm i dont know about this that Pac is waray he was born in bukidnon and raise in cotabato and he speak bisaya since birth hahaha... when you say bisaya that means VISAYAS even though ur ilongo waray or bol anon its still Bisaya hope u understand.... ur hate towards PACLAND is drowning you pls stop the hate man your trying to apply the Crab mentality here dont pull down the others....
even of they migrate to luzon still there blood is bisaya there proud of it you want to know why?
because bisaya had a lot of guts...
usually the luzonians are trying to degrade bisaya thats why there will be no peace and theres a lot of racist among our country...
Crab mentality is when you put down others to advance yourself. That is what Cebuanos at Pacland are doing to Philippine boxing. You know it, I know it, you just don't want to admit it probably because of your ethnic bias.
O yeah? Well Kid Filipino is Filipino and he sucks!
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=27097&cat=boxer
:D
why the hell did kid azteca fight kid filipino like 20 times?
fucker was padding his record!
I'm a Manileno but my parents are Visayans. The clan still resides there too. Pacman and Navarette are Warays, Pancho Villa is Hilagaynon and Espinosa, Echevarria and Ceferino Garcia are from Manila. Visayans may have produced better boxers than Luzon but that doesn't mean Cebuanos can claim they are good boxers - they are not. Hilaygaynons and Warays represent Visayan boxing.
In the Philippines boxing is looked upon as a way to escape poverty, specially in the countryside where many kids cannot even finish elementary school. Pacman used to be a cigarette vendor in Manila and Flash Elorde used to be a porter in Manila piers before they became boxers. You don't see much Manileno boxers because they don't have to resort to boxing to earn a living.
hmmm i dont know about this that Pac is waray he was born in bukidnon and raise in cotabato and he speak bisaya since birth hahaha... when you say bisaya that means VISAYAS even though ur ilongo waray or bol anon its still Bisaya hope u understand.... ur hate towards PACLAND is drowning you pls stop the hate man your trying to apply the Crab mentality here dont pull down the others....
even of they migrate to luzon still there blood is bisaya there proud of it you want to know why?
because bisaya had a lot of guts...
usually the luzonians are trying to degrade bisaya thats why there will be no peace and theres a lot of racist among our country...
well Pacquiao is a Bisaya even though his from mindanao.. so it means bisaya is superior in philippines... the likes of Espinosa, Penalosa's, Pancho Villa, Pacquiao, Navarete, stopo the hate man... and by the way if your from luzon i understand...
Very true... Badboy is just hater...
well Pacquiao is a Bisaya even though his from mindanao.. so it means bisaya is superior in philippines... the likes of Espinosa, Penalosa's, Pancho Villa, Pacquiao, Navarete, stopo the hate man... and by the way if your from luzon i understand...
I'm a Manileno but my parents are Visayans. The clan still resides there too. Pacman and Navarette are Warays, Pancho Villa is Hilagaynon and Espinosa, Echevarria and Ceferino Garcia are from Manila. Visayans may have produced better boxers than Luzon but that doesn't mean Cebuanos can claim they are good boxers - they are not. Hilaygaynons and Warays represent Visayan boxing.
In the Philippines boxing is looked upon as a way to escape poverty, specially in the countryside where many kids cannot even finish elementary school. Pacman used to be a cigarette vendor in Manila and Flash Elorde used to be a porter in Manila piers before they became boxers. You don't see much Manileno boxers because they don't have to resort to boxing to earn a living.
I got interested in boxing watching Rolando Navarette and Dodie Boy Espinosa as a kid. Luisito Espinosa always got me on the edge of my seat because he's got brittle hands and chin...still he got the job done. First time I saw Pacman was in a local boxing program "Blow by Blow" and since then I became a Pac fan. I even have a copy of the FHM magazine that ran a story on him before the first Barrera fight.
Back then, no Filipino hyped their fighters. The only one I could remember being hyped was Morris East who won the light welterweight title at 19...a lot of documentaries and new features was made about him after that, and how his search for his American father was his motivation to succeed in the sport. He found his father after winning the title...lost in on his first defense, stories came out that his father was sick and that Morris' mind wasn't in training. The guy never fought for a title again and never really achieved his full potential.
Now, is there hate between Filipino boxing fans? I don't think so. There are just those protecting Cebuano interests and those that are exposing the Cebuano's selfish agenda. You see, since time immemorial, Cebuanos have been trying to relive the glory days of their only great fighter, Flash Elorde by hyping "next great Cebuano boxer". You have the likes of Tunacao, Mayol, Suico, Rolando Bohol, Ala Villamor, Andy Tabanas etc., who all ended up as journeymen. Today, thanks to Pacland, (which they own and moderate) Cebuano fighters get good press, juicy contracts, and international exposure but always end up put up a mediocre performance in big championship fights. Now, every boxing prospect in the country is measured based on the performance of these Cebuano fighters which a lot of Filipinos think isn't fare. When one vents this on Pacland, they get banned and their region ridiculed.
They also claim "Visayan" boxing greatness as their own, saying that the truly great Filipino boxers are Visayans (and that includes them of course). Yes, it may be true but an Ilonggo is not a Cebuano and Warays aren't Cebuanos. In fact, the best Filipino fighters past and present are either Warays or Hilagaynons while Cebuanos are the weakest (for a province that produces the most boxers). There is no North and South rivalry in Philippine boxing...it only exists in the minds of Cebuanos. There are people like me who try to get this message across that Philippine boxing doesn't just depend on one hyped gym in Cebu and there are those that obviously are Cebuanos or are defending their Cebuano friends - that's where the conflict lies.
well Pacquiao is a Bisaya even though his from mindanao.. so it means bisaya is superior in philippines... the likes of Espinosa, Penalosa's, Pancho Villa, Pacquiao, Navarete, stopo the hate man... and by the way if your from luzon i understand...
I got interested in boxing watching Rolando Navarette and Dodie Boy Espinosa as a kid. Luisito Espinosa always got me on the edge of my seat because he's got brittle hands and chin...still he got the job done. First time I saw Pacman was in a local boxing program "Blow by Blow" and since then I became a Pac fan. I even have a copy of the FHM magazine that ran a story on him before the first Barrera fight.
Back then, no Filipino hyped their fighters. The only one I could remember being hyped was Morris East who won the light welterweight title at 19...a lot of documentaries and new features was made about him after that, and how his search for his American father was his motivation to succeed in the sport. He found his father after winning the title...lost in on his first defense, stories came out that his father was sick and that Morris' mind wasn't in training. The guy never fought for a title again and never really achieved his full potential.
Now, is there hate between Filipino boxing fans? I don't think so. There are just those protecting Cebuano interests and those that are exposing the Cebuano's selfish agenda. You see, since time immemorial, Cebuanos have been trying to relive the glory days of their only great fighter, Flash Elorde by hyping "next great Cebuano boxer". You have the likes of Tunacao, Mayol, Suico, Rolando Bohol, Ala Villamor, Andy Tabanas etc., who all ended up as journeymen. Today, thanks to Pacland, (which they own and moderate) Cebuano fighters get good press, juicy contracts, and international exposure but always end up put up a mediocre performance in big championship fights. Now, every boxing prospect in the country is measured based on the performance of these Cebuano fighters which a lot of Filipinos think isn't fare. When one vents this on Pacland, they get banned and their region ridiculed.
They also claim "Visayan" boxing greatness as their own, saying that the truly great Filipino boxers are Visayans (and that includes them of course). Yes, it may be true but an Ilonggo is not a Cebuano and Warays aren't Cebuanos. In fact, the best Filipino fighters past and present are either Warays or Hilagaynons while Cebuanos are the weakest (for a province that produces the most boxers). There is no North and South rivalry in Philippine boxing...it only exists in the minds of Cebuanos. There are people like me who try to get this message across that Philippine boxing doesn't just depend on one hyped gym in Cebu and there are those that obviously are Cebuanos or are defending their Cebuano friends - that's where the conflict lies.
Well they didnt count the knockdown but got deducted a point 4 hitting Marquez while he was down. How is it possible to hit a guy thats down if he was never down??
Take that 3pt swing into consideration and it goes from SD Marquez to UD Barrera
that fool jay nady should be banned :D or maybe hell get another punch from zab while doing the chicken dance LMAO!
No kidding man. Then they have the nerve to say that "No one makes Casamayor-Marquez threads. Marquez fans are just obsessed with pacquiao"
Now look, there have been a lot of Marquez-Casamayor threads and they say "He sucks JAPANESE DICK LOL LOL LOL and IS A CRYBABY LOL LOL" Actually that's in any marquez thread. The funniest thing is when they try to say barrera got robbed against Marquez :lol1:
Well they didnt count the knockdown but got deducted a point 4 hitting Marquez while he was down. How is it possible to hit a guy thats down if he was never down??
Take that 3pt swing into consideration and it goes from SD Marquez to UD Barrera
you are one a few, but like i said, its understandable. sometimes it just gets a little annoying when you're trying to have a debate and 23892089 pinoy fans just come into the thread, make the typical "JUANITA IS JUST MAD BECAUSE PACQUIAO DESTROYED HIS GAY ASS HAHAHALOLOL HE SHOHULD GO BACK TO HIS JPANAESE BOYFRIEND HAHA LOLOLOLOLOLOL"
No kidding man. Then they have the nerve to say that "No one makes Casamayor-Marquez threads. Marquez fans are just obsessed with pacquiao"
Now look, there have been a lot of Marquez-Casamayor threads and they say "He sucks JAPANESE DICK LOL LOL LOL and IS A CRYBABY LOL LOL" Actually that's in any marquez thread. The funniest thing is when they try to say barrera got robbed against Marquez :lol1: