You know the saying, you can't put muscles on your chin.
Does everyone agree with this, if not what can be done to improve on your ability to take punches. Obviously you can't turn a glass jaw into a granite jaw or everyone would be doing it.
But can anything be done to just improve the resistance a little?
I have some opinions on this but want to hear everyone elses first.
Can anyone come up with examples of fighters with so called weak chins early in their careers, then the punch resistance seemingly getting better later in their careers.
You can improve punch resistance with lots of neck and shoulder exercise, and also by simply getting used to taking punches. The better you see punches the less they affect you.
Having a good "chin" doesn't mean you have to have a strong chin. I don't believe it has anything to do with the physical structure of your chin itself.
KO's don't come from the chin, they come from the fighter losing his equilibrium or orientation (which comes from the inner ear). Your hydration has a huge effect on this, which is why fighters who move up in weight "improve" their chins. If I were to recommend something that would work, I'd say eat citrus fruits 10-20 minutes before a fight (probably the last thing you do before exiting the dressing room) and drink some ginger ale, both of which are known to help motion sickness (the same effect as when hit while boxing).
I guess you could also give a boxer some Dramamine and see if it helps.
Interesting theory the citrus fruits thing.
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You're forgetting an important thing in all of this. Shock. That's where muscular structure and bone density often come into play. They absorb the shock first that can cause loss of equilibrium and disorientation. They are the first line of defense. What do fighters like Margarito, Baldomir, Andrade, Hagler, Chuvalo all have in common?
It's mostly genetic, but you can get a little of that yourself with neck training and practicing high guard defense.
Oh yeah, and jaw strengthening exercises don't hurt either.
Having a good "chin" doesn't mean you have to have a strong chin. I don't believe it has anything to do with the physical structure of your chin itself.
KO's don't come from the chin, they come from the fighter losing his equilibrium or orientation (which comes from the inner ear). Your hydration has a huge effect on this, which is why fighters who move up in weight "improve" their chins. If I were to recommend something that would work, I'd say eat citrus fruits 10-20 minutes before a fight (probably the last thing you do before exiting the dressing room) and drink some ginger ale, both of which are known to help motion sickness (the same effect as when hit while boxing).
I guess you could also give a boxer some Dramamine and see if it helps.
It's really a bone density/muscular structure type thing. It's no surprise when you see the best chins in boxing usually belong to a man with a nice, thick skull. The head or neck and or jaw are thick, or proportioned, or unusual in some way.
The only things the glass jawed can do are neck strengthening and incorporate a high guard defense to help with the brain scrambling.
If you have a glass chin i cant see it becomming a good chin. I remember watching Cus or Rooney say they took alot of time working on the neck as the believed it helped punch resistance.
That was the other thing I was thinking as well. Nicely pointed out.
If you have a glass chin i cant see it becomming a good chin. I remember watching Cus or Rooney say they took alot of time working on the neck as the believed it helped punch resistance.
That is exactly what I was looking for silencers more than anything else. I can't think of any instances off hand and will have to do some digging but am pretty sure hypnotherapy has been used to improve a chin slightly.
I haven't heard of that actually happening apart from Collins using it as a ploy against Eubank before their first fight, I wonder if it's possible.
Part of being able to take a good shot is also psychological.
That is exactly what I was looking for silencers more than anything else. I can't think of any instances off hand and will have to do some digging but am pretty sure hypnotherapy has been used to improve a chin slightly.
I have never boxed, so this is purely speculation, but I was wondering if simple age does not play a part? I am pretty certain that 27 year old me is bigger, stronger and could take a harder punch than 21 year old me, its the difference I suppose between being a man and a boy.
Conditioning ie. being used to fighting heavy punchers.
Fighting at your correct weight.
Having a top class defence. (recent example: look at Juan Diaz, he hardly got tagged at all against Katsidis the other night)
Ah ofcourse, sorry but it does show that Hopkins being dropped twice by a light puncher in Mercado who lost 10 fights is a drastic improvement from the Hopkins that can't be stopped.
oh yeah for sure.
That wasn't his first title fight.
He faced Roy Jones before Mercado for the ibf title. He fought Mercado for the Ibf title that Jones vacated.
he also said that him being put down was more due to the heat in ecuador.
Ah ofcourse, sorry but it does show that Hopkins being dropped twice by a light puncher in Mercado who lost 10 fights is a drastic improvement from the Hopkins that can't be stopped.
He was dropped twice by Mercado and was the closest Hopkins has ever come to being stopped ever. He was dropped in both the 5th and 7th rounds and pulled a draw out. Considering the fight was in Ecuador the ref could have stopped in there an then and there wouldn't have been any complaint.
That wasn't his first title fight.
He faced Roy Jones before Mercado for the ibf title. He fought Mercado for the Ibf title that Jones vacated.
he also said that him being put down was more due to the heat in ecuador.
What fight was that ?
He was dropped twice by Mercado and was the closest Hopkins has ever come to being stopped ever. He was dropped in both the 5th and 7th rounds and pulled a draw out. Considering the fight was in Ecuador the ref could have stopped in there an then and there wouldn't have been any complaint.
As fighter gain more experience they learn to take punches the right way by rolling with them or moving there head a little so that punches graze but it is very hard to turn a glass chin into a good chin. A good example is Hopkins who was dropped twice by Mercado and almost stopped in his first title fight and a few fights later managing to survive punchers like Roy Jones, Taylor, Trinidad etc. He turned a good chin into a great one, it also helps that it was damn hard to hit Hopkins flush.
That's good but I'm still looking for more opinions and other ideas on this.