Is a 16yr old lightweight named Jason Pagara!!!
Dude obviously has a long way to go but man...this kid can fight!!! His fundamentals are solid and the kid is huge already 4 a lightweight and will probably be at 140 or 147 by the time he gets anywhere near world class level.
I watched this dude fight on the Bautista undercard and I saw alot of special things in this kid. Provided this kid grows up to have a solid chin this guy's going to be able to make a run with the world's elite JR WW and WWs by the time he's in his mid 20s.
nah...... the koala pinoy says you're from ala gym and visayan.
Oops, not "visayan", ilonggos and warays are good boxers, they have a future. Now you won't be the future of anything but a Cebuano soap opera if you are Cebuano and heavily promoted at ALA-ass-kissing website Pacland and Philboxing.com - that's what the koala would say.
no im not from that shitty place called the phillipines
tell me, do you honestly believe that the pinoys are better then mexicans because of that fake ass world cup? would the outcome be the same if the bums that were on the mexican team were replaced by Fernando Montiel, Abner Mares, Ulises Solis, Edgar Sosa, or Christian Mijares? now tell me u fucking bum, would those pinoy "prospects" beat them? even without that fucking GYM... they won because they were supposed to.... DLH prolly felt sorry for your asses and made you believe in the stupid "WORLD CUP" hype, now you got stupid midgets screaming in youtube that they won the "World Cup" and that they are better then Mexicans..
Gorres already beat Montiel
Mijares wouldnt come within 100ft of Donaire
Johnny Gonzales > Abner Mares x100
So who are the bums??:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Di pare, Hector is from uknown lineage... He is half Mexican pero his dad could be anyone who was a paying customer.... or it could be a donkey.
Nyahahaha...I didn't know xcaret's half-mexican-half-goat :rofl:
What do you mean better than US? I remembered the Boxing World Cup was between Mexico and the Philippines, you're from Timbuktu right?
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Di pare, Hector is from uknown lineage... He is half Mexican pero his dad could be anyone who was a paying customer.... or it could be a donkey from tijuana so technically he could be pure mexican just half human.
lol... see what i mean about you fucking pinoys, u guys dont know SHIT about boxing, they headline a card with the name "WORLD CUP" and you guys all believe the stupid hype, who were the fighters that were on the mexican team? only TWO were recognizable.. your "prospects" beat up some bums and you guys all think your better then us, HAHA...
What do you mean better than US? I remembered the Boxing World Cup was between Mexico and the Philippines, you're from Timbuktu right?
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Of course you do. And you are not the 1st and wont be the last to complain about ALA. Im just saying cut them some slack cuz it takes a few seasons to build a dynasty if you know what I mean.
Jerry Rice. Arguably the greatest football player ever used to drop so many balls he would get booed off the field. Noone would dare boo him now.
Same with ALA. They have some inhouse issues im sure they're aware of and need to resolve but they've done good things and they'll hold multiple straps eventually
I'm all for that, I just wish they don't smear other Filipino fighters and promoters to advance their own fighters. Self-confessed friends of the ALA stable does that everyday in Pacland/Philboxing which of course if owned and moderated by ALA buddy Dong Secuya. Want me to direct you to their confessions of a smear campaign?
I think just like you I have the right to be heard too don't you think?
Of course you do. And you are not the 1st and wont be the last to complain about ALA. Im just saying cut them some slack cuz it takes a few seasons to build a dynasty if you know what I mean.
Jerry Rice. Arguably the greatest football player ever used to drop so many balls he would get booed off the field. Noone would dare boo him now.
Same with ALA. They have some inhouse issues im sure they're aware of and need to resolve but they've done good things and they'll hold multiple straps eventually
You really have to cut this ALA crap a break. They are developing experience just as their fighters. Not even Nacho and the famed Romanza gym churned out champs right off the bat. It wasnt even too long ago that Roach couldn't even control his 2 most prized fighters in Pacquiao and James Toney.
With all the criticism of ALA choking you would think the fighters would have enough sense to get "better" trainers but they havent. ALA got them to the show and they have enough faith that they can win titles together.
They're on the right path. They've already produced a world champion caliber fighter in Z Gorres who has just been on the wrong end of a couple of bad decisions
I think just like you I have the right to be heard too don't you think?
you don't actually blame a "gym"...that's stupid. You blame what the "gym" instilled in the minds of these guys. These ALA prospects already trained under Roach and they won the recent Boxing World Cup because of that. Now, they went back to their old ways and... nevermind.
You really have to cut this ALA crap a break. They are developing experience just as their fighters. Not even Nacho and the famed Romanza gym churned out champs right off the bat. It wasnt even too long ago that Roach couldn't even control his 2 most prized fighters in Pacquiao and James Toney.
With all the criticism of ALA choking you would think the fighters would have enough sense to get "better" trainers but they havent. ALA got them to the show and they have enough faith that they can win titles together.
They're on the right path. They've already produced a world champion caliber fighter in Z Gorres who has just been on the wrong end of a couple of bad decisions
Heres the future of Phillipine Boxing:
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Im jk but I thought it would be funny. I really have no idea.
Just like we have no idea who the rising fighters are in say, Thailand, Japan, Brazil, Argentina, Panama and Nicaragua... Boxing may be global, but the exposure is still limited to a small number of countries
He's right though. Why blame the gym? Boxing is an individual sport so all you can really blame is yourself and your preparation. We see on a regular basis its not necessarily the better trained fighter but the hungrier fighter that wins fights. Look at Vasquez. Marquez was by far a better fighter but Vasquez just wouldn't be denied.
you don't actually blame a "gym"...that's stupid. You blame what the "gym" instilled in the minds of these guys. These ALA prospects already trained under Roach and they won the recent Boxing World Cup because of that. Now, they went back to their old ways and... nevermind.
He's right though. Why blame the gym? Boxing is an individual sport so all you can really blame is yourself and your preparation. We see on a regular basis its not necessarily the better trained fighter but the hungrier fighter that wins fights. Look at Vasquez. Marquez was by far a better fighter but Vasquez just wouldn't be denied.
The gym is responsible for guiding a fighter that would otherwise be unschooled in Physiology, technique, etc. They provide sparring partners that can better develop a fighter to cater to his opponent... These are specifics that fighters trust their trainers with.. Most young fighters do not know if they are over trained, undertrained, etc.. They can feel good in the gym and have the confidence that they are in shape but when they hit the ring for a real fight they just may fall short. Banal is an example of a figher ALA claims was accidentally over trained and although he was beating up on his oppenent his body was done. You can try and train yourself and push yourself but fighters need guideline and someone to tell em what to eat, when to eat, when to sleep, when and how to bulk up, etc, etc, etc... trainers make a world of difference and that is why you have your Bersteins, Mayweather Sr.,Stewarts, McGirts, Roachs, Scullys, etc., etc. Because they do make a ton of difference in a fighter aside from the fighters own desire to prepare.
it's funny how xcaret says that why blame the gym? of course they have to. why? because this boxers from the phils dont know that much. they need to be molded properly by a good handler and a world class trainer.
we know the results if a person is not molded properly and that we see in xcaret. his mom and dad never taught him how to be a person that is why he is acting like this here in the forums. his brother and sister in law wants him out of the house. i mean no one wants to be around him because he is not like a human being.
now xcaret who is to blame?
He's right though. Why blame the gym? Boxing is an individual sport so all you can really blame is yourself and your preparation. We see on a regular basis its not necessarily the better trained fighter but the hungrier fighter that wins fights. Look at Vasquez. Marquez was by far a better fighter but Vasquez just wouldn't be denied.
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