Every time you bring up Mike as being one of the greatest heavy Weights of all time you get the arguments that he did not fight anyone. Well if you are on that side of the fence and you think that Mike didn't fight any quality fighters while he was cleaning up the division and doing it mostly by impressive first and 2nd round KO's then name me names of fighters that were around while he was dominating that Mike avoided. I see all these threads of Roy and Floyd saying they avoided all the names named but I always get slack for my credit given to Mike for being the #1 P4P fighter of the mid 80's early 90's......Lefty
I disagree with this When LEwis wanted to fight Tyson before he went to jail and when Lennox was around in the late 90's Tyson had his sights on Holyfield....After which Tyson was suspended for ear biting....When he was allowed to fight he had maybe 3 or 4 fights before fighting Lennox and t6hat at the time was the most PPV sells and in my mind lennox only took the fight cause he knew Tyson was way past his prime in my mind after Tyson foguth Holy in 96 Lennox did not want that man in the same ring as him. I mean Lennox had trouble with Holy and tyson packed much more of a punch then Holy and Lennox won that fight with his jab.....Lefty
Tyson chose Evander over Lennox because he saw Evander as an easy fight at that time. Hence, Tyson ducked Lennox in favor of a man who he thought had a hole in his heart.
Red part is too stupid to argue with.
Lennox Lewis
I disagree with this When LEwis wanted to fight Tyson before he went to jail and when Lennox was around in the late 90's Tyson had his sights on Holyfield....After which Tyson was suspended for ear biting....When he was allowed to fight he had maybe 3 or 4 fights before fighting Lennox and t6hat at the time was the most PPV sells and in my mind lennox only took the fight cause he knew Tyson was way past his prime in my mind after Tyson foguth Holy in 96 Lennox did not want that man in the same ring as him. I mean Lennox had trouble with Holy and tyson packed much more of a punch then Holy and Lennox won that fight with his jab.....Lefty
Every time you bring up Mike as being one of the greatest heavy Weights of all time you get the arguments that he did not fight anyone. Well if you are on that side of the fence and you think that Mike didn't fight any quality fighters while he was cleaning up the division and doing it mostly by impressive first and 2nd round KO's then name me names of fighters that were around while he was dominating that Mike avoided. I see all these threads of Roy and Floyd saying they avoided all the names named but I always get slack for my credit given to Mike for being the #1 P4P fighter of the mid 80's early 90's......Lefty
Tyson fought every pizza delivery guy available. No duckage here, son.
........Rizo
Who did he duck in the 90's.......He went to jail in 91 after fighting Razor Rudduck 2 times came out fought Peter McNeeley (36-1) Buster Mathis Jr. (20-0) Frank Bruno (40-4) Bruce Seldon (33-3) and Evander Holyfield 2 times the second time he bit his ear off and then was suspended for nearly 2 years. He came back fought Francois Botha (39-1) and Orlin Norris (50-5). So all in all in the 90's he fought 13 times he was 10-3 with 9 KO's his 3 loses were to Douglas and twice to Holy with the one loss by ear biting...Who did he duck?..Lefty
He ducked...
Lennox Lewis
Riddick Bowe
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Tommy Morrison
Shannon Briggs
There may have been a few more, but those guys were the top heavys of the 90's and Tyson fought the guys you named instead.
who Did He Duck In The 90's.......he Went To Jail In 91 After Fighting Razor Rudduck 2 Times Came Out Fought Peter Mcneeley (36-1) Buster Mathis Jr. (20-0) Frank Bruno (40-4) Bruce Seldon (33-3) And Evander Holyfield 2 Times The Second Time He Bit His Ear Off And Then Was Suspended For Nearly 2 Years. He Came Back Fought Francois Botha (39-1) And Orlin Norris (50-5). So All In All In The 90's He Fought 13 Times He Was 10-3 With 9 Ko's His 3 Loses Were To Douglas And Twice To Holy With The One Loss By Ear Biting...who Did He Duck?..lefty
Lennox Lewis
During his 80's reign, he never ducked anyone. During the 90's he ducked everyone. The only reason he fought Holy in 96 was because everyone thought he was shot.
Mike has said that his real career ended in Tokyo.
Who did he duck in the 90's.......He went to jail in 91 after fighting Razor Rudduck 2 times came out fought Peter McNeeley (36-1) Buster Mathis Jr. (20-0) Frank Bruno (40-4) Bruce Seldon (33-3) and Evander Holyfield 2 times the second time he bit his ear off and then was suspended for nearly 2 years. He came back fought Francois Botha (39-1) and Orlin Norris (50-5). So all in all in the 90's he fought 13 times he was 10-3 with 9 KO's his 3 loses were to Douglas and twice to Holy with the one loss by ear biting...Who did he duck?..Lefty
During his 80's reign, he never ducked anyone. During the 90's he ducked everyone. The only reason he fought Holy in 96 was because everyone thought he was shot.
Mike has said that his real career ended in Tokyo.
This is true.
Tyson fought everyone there was to fight in the 80's.
I personally think that a Tyson - Witherspoon fight could've been a somewhat competitive one (more than most of Tyson's fights atleast) but 'Terrible' Tim ruined the chance of that happening with his non-performance against 'Bonecrusher' Smith.
During his 80's reign, he never ducked anyone. During the 90's he ducked everyone. The only reason he fought Holy in 96 was because everyone thought he was shot.
Mike has said that his real career ended in Tokyo.
It was a little disturbing to see George 20-0 on his comeback with 19 KOs and Holyfield already with 5 or 6 decent HWs under his belt after being undisputed CW champ, and then Tyson fights 42-1 underdog Buster Douglas instead.
George Foreman was 20-0 fighting less then nameable competiton a fight with George at this time wouldn't have been as attractive unless George had a belt. After george won the belt he had the fight ready to go but Foreman elected not to fight Tyson. See the cut out from From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Shortly after the Moorer fight, Foreman began talking about a potential superfight against Mike Tyson. The WBA organization, however, demanded he fight their No. 1 challenger, who at the time was the competent but aging Tony Tucker. For reasons not clearly known, Foreman refused to fight Tucker, and allowed the WBA to strip him of that belt. He then went on to fight mid-level prospect Axel Schulz of Germany in defense of his remaining IBF title. Schulz was a major underdog, but the experts who dismissed his chances did not take into account his toughness and mobility. Schulz jabbed strongly from long range, was never troubled by Foreman's power, and grew increasingly confident as the fight progressed. Foreman finished the fight with a grotesque swelling over one eye, but was awarded a highly controversial majority decision (two judges scored for Foreman, one called it even). The IBF ordered an immediate rematch to be held in Germany, but Foreman refused the terms and found himself stripped of his remaining title.
As for Holyfield I am not to sure but after Holy beat Buster for thwe title Tyson had a planned match up with Holy but it never happened cause the man was sent off to jail. He had Holy as the next fight after Douglas but as we all know Tyson lost to Douglas and Holy took the belts from Buster.....Lefty
buster was mike's oliver mccall..without the redemption
oliver mccall may have also been mike's buster had they fought. prime oliver mccall beats any lennox imo. the mccall that lennox "ko
ed" was strung out from a crack binge and was on the verge of a psychological meltdown. actually, he basically did have a nervous breakdown materialize in the ring. he sacrificed himself to lennox by not fighting back, allowing lennox to score his best punches, yet still was never knocked off of his feet. basically, oliver mccall beat himself using lennox as his instrument of destruction...
]Every time you bring up Mike as being one of the greatest heavy Weights of all time you get the arguments that he did not fight anyone. Well if you are on that side of the fence and you think that Mike didn't fight any quality fighters while he was cleaning up the division and doing it mostly by impressive first and 2nd round KO's then name me names of fighters that were around while he was dominating that Mike avoided. I see all these threads of Roy and Floyd saying they avoided all the names named but I always get slack for my credit given to Mike for being the #1 P4P fighter of the mid 80's early 90's......Lefty
The arguement isn't that he never fought anyone, it's that he lost against all of his toughest opponents.
George Foreman.
It was a little disturbing to see George 20-0 on his comeback with 19 KOs and Holyfield already with 5 or 6 decent HWs under his belt after being undisputed CW champ, and then Tyson fights 42-1 underdog Buster Douglas instead.
I think at this point there was much attention going to Evander and they were lining up a big money fight with him Lennox wasn;t worth as much at the time that is why I think Bowe Holy and Tyson all decided not to fight him at that time. in my mind Tyson before jail would have crushed Lewis but that never happened and the fight in 2002 Tyson took a vicious beating....Lefty
because Buster Douglass was better than Lennox...lol
not 100% sure but i remember his handlers not wanting to fight lennox...he was supposed to fight him before ruddock
I think at this point there was much attention going to Evander and they were lining up a big money fight with him Lennox wasn;t worth as much at the time that is why I think Bowe Holy and Tyson all decided not to fight him at that time. in my mind Tyson before jail would have crushed Lewis but that never happened and the fight in 2002 Tyson took a vicious beating....Lefty