Who showed more heart, Vargas against Tito or Cotto against Margarito?

Vargas showed more heart by far..... For one he went out on his shield while Cotto went out on his knees

I voted both but I'd say Vargas showed more in a more desperate situation. He was nearly out in the 1st rd. Somehow surviving that and many low blows to the 12th where he's desperately holding on for the last 3 minutes. Heck even after he went down for the 3rd time in the 12th, he attempted to get up. Yes, Fernando did try to get up after the final knockdown, what a warrior.

I voted both but I'd say Vargas showed more in a more desperate situation. He was nearly out in the 1st rd. Somehow surviving that and many low blows to the 12th where he's desperately holding on for the last 3 minutes. Heck even after he went down for the 3rd time in the 12th, he attempted to get up.

Which one left with more brain damage?

Yeah so like I said both

Is this a joke or what? Anyone who has said Cotto or "both" should kill themselves right now. Let's compare the two performances in detail: -Vargas got knocked down TWICE in the first round and came back to put Tito on his ass on round 4 and give him what Tito considered his toughest fight, and definitely the one in which he received the most punishment -Cotto was winning the first half of the fight and then got destroyed in the second half. -Vargas could've used his superior boxing ability to beat Tito but decided to go toe-to-toe with the guy billed the harder puncher -Cotto was billed the harder puncher and his performance blurred the line between "boxing" and "running" -Vargas got knocked down twice by devastating shots that should've made the ref stop the fight, and he got up immediately after each hit. -After taking a knee for his first knockdown, Cotto retreated without throwing one punch until the ring did not allow him to, at which point he intentionally went to the floor to escape punishment Cotto may have been smarter in that he tried to win while avoiding punishment, and took a knee to secure his health, but this topic is not "who demonstrated more intelligence by trying to prevent serious injuries to himself while losing a fight", the topic is who showed more heart, and in this department there is no comparison. Also, the 2000 version of Vargas DESTROYS any version of Cotto. This guy was putting the hurt on Tito and Oscar in many stages of their fights, and beat two guys with MUCH more boxing ability than Cotto in Winky and Quartey. Did I mention he beat them both before turning 22? Vargas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cotto

id go with cotto to outbox him and win a close split decision Fernando would beat Cotto.

the question was who had showed more heart? It's a simple question. Even to you dick riding cotto fans that twist everything to the end. Don't you think vargas could have done the same thing after the second knock down, the third, or the fourth knock down? he could have simply took a knee like cotto did and say i had enough. But no that's not what he did he got up and fired back like a warrior and showed his true heart. Your man didn't do that therefore vargas showed better heart. Now is that a hard question? no! Get cotto's you know what out of your mouth. "he's smarter" is now the new excuse lmao! Vargas fought to the very end. Tito was catching him with every shot in the final seconds of the fight and Fernando was fighting on pure heart. Cotto took a knee while he was still able defend himself. I think it's pretty easy to determine who had more balls.

the question was who had showed more heart? It's a simple question. Even to you dick riding cotto fans that twist everything to the end. Don't you think vargas could have done the same thing after the second knock down, the third, or the fourth knock down? he could have simply took a knee like cotto did and say i had enough. But no that's not what he did he got up and fired back like a warrior and showed his true heart. Your man didn't do that therefore vargas showed better heart. Now is that a hard question? no! Get cotto's you know what out of your mouth. "he's smarter" is now the new excuse lmao! Judging by your stupid response I would guess you just didn't understand what I said. I'm not taking ANYTHING away from Vargas or those who voted Vargas! YOU'RE THE ONE TAKING AWAY FROM COTTO. He didn't have heart just cause he never went down?! BULL!!!! Quiet down and Let the adults talk. Your response is so immature I won't waist my time talking to some kid on his moms computer, or a pathetic adult who hasn't got the wit to respond with respect!!!!! http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/972792tijuanatornado2.gif http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/842786cotto2.0.gif

Let me give you guys a quick primer on steroids. They have this stuff out now called HGH. Anyone ever heard of it? Its undetectible and works way better than steroids. Which brings me to this question about Margarito. The stamina he showed against Cotto was quite unnatural in my opinion. How could ANYONE be that fresh if they werent using some sort of drug? I dont care If he train at the summit of MT EVEREST. Something was not right about that guy....I cant prove it but I feel it in my gut. You know they have stuff that cyclist take(AHEM:Lance Armstrong) that will give you mucho endurance. Im just saying....... first your an alt and second margarito has always had stamina. Your a moron! Cotto did nothing that would slow margarito down. Cotto never worked the body! There's no reason why margarito couldnt go another 11 rounds.

Let me give you guys a quick primer on steroids. They have this stuff out now called HGH. Anyone ever heard of it? Its undetectible and works way better than steroids. Which brings me to this question about Margarito. The stamina he showed against Cotto was quite unnatural in my opinion. How could ANYONE be that fresh if they werent using some sort of drug? I dont care If he train at the summit of MT EVEREST. Something was not right about that guy....I cant prove it but I feel it in my gut. You know they have stuff that cyclist take(AHEM:Lance Armstrong) that will give you mucho endurance. Im just saying....... I know what you mean Slickster. I had similar thoughts too until he was tested after the fight. But I won't take anything away from his hard-earned victory without proof. Look at the other side of the spectrum though. The more stress you put your body through in training - the more stress your body can handle in the ring - INCLUDING resistance to ko hits. Marg felt like this was the biggest fight of his career, even Kellerman said, "I wouldn't wanna be Cotto. I wouldn't want to be in the ring against a guy who thinks he's finally arrived". Marg FINALLY got his shot after being avoided for so long, so I can see him motivated enough to go through dangerous level training. Which is exactly what he needed to walk through Cotto's bombs. http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/972792tijuanatornado2.gif http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/842786cotto2.0.gif

Stupid question & Easy answer? Vargas was down a bunch of times so that automatically wipes Cotto from having heart? It's not a stupid question! It's DEBATABLE. Your opinion is just close-minded. If you or ANYONE picks Vargas - I can understand why, but don't act like Cotto had no heart just because in your opinion Vargas had more. Cotto felt defeat coming for the first time, was smart enough to take a knee cause he knew he reached his limit, but he's discredited because he wasn't knocked down?! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEART NOT STUPIDITY. You think adversity comes ONLY AFTER YOU GET KNOCKED DOWN. So of coarse in your opinion it's gonna be Vargas! HE WENT DOWN EARLY! But Heart is your ability to rise up against tough adversity in the ring, no matter how grave the the circumstance or situation becomes. That point of adversity hit REALLY early for Cotto against Marg. THAT'S the point you have to measure from. NOT THE END WHEN THE FIGHT WAS OVER. From the point he realized that Marg could take his best hit in round 2, through the score card shift and broken nose midway, those late rounds he was STILL hitting accurately and moving good, regardless of the look of defeat on his face in those last 4 rounds. He didn't dodge a guy who's avoided by some of the best, AND EVEN AFTER A DEFEAT LIKE THAT, he says he's gonna fight him again one day. You pick Vargas? good for you. But DON'T discredit this question as being stupid or not debatable just because you think adversity means being knocked down. the question was who had showed more heart? It's a simple question. Even to you dick riding cotto fans that twist everything to the end. Don't you think vargas could have done the same thing after the second knock down, the third, or the fourth knock down? he could have simply took a knee like cotto did and say i had enough. But no that's not what he did he got up and fired back like a warrior and showed his true heart. Your man didn't do that therefore vargas showed better heart. Now is that a hard question? no! Get cotto's you know what out of your mouth. "he's smarter" is now the new excuse lmao!

Maybe he is always on something. Ive never seen another boxer that punches alot like him that fresh against a KILLER like Cotto. NO FUCKING WAY. Is HGH similar to endothil? I heard endothil is some heavey shit and that its legal.

Maybe he is always on something. Ive never seen another boxer that punches alot like him that fresh against a KILLER like Cotto. NO FUCKING WAY. you must not watch enough boxing

Which fighter demonstrated more balls? Fernando in his epic battle agaist Tito Trinidad or Miguel Cotto in his struggle agaist Tony Margarito??? vargas is more warrior than cotto.

Let me give you guys a quick primer on steroids. They have this stuff out now called HGH. Anyone ever heard of it? Its undetectible and works way better than steroids. Which brings me to this question about Margarito. The stamina he showed against Cotto was quite unnatural in my opinion. How could ANYONE be that fresh if they werent using some sort of drug? I dont care If he train at the summit of MT EVEREST. Something was not right about that guy....I cant prove it but I feel it in my gut. You know they have stuff that cyclist take(AHEM:Lance Armstrong) that will give you mucho endurance. Im just saying....... Good point, but Margarito always fights like that.

both showed heart but i go with Vargas

Puerto Ricans and Cotto fans need to stop saying that Cotto was a small fighter. He certainly didn't belong at jr. welterweight. And before he lost to Margarito people were saying that Cotto is a big welterweight but he lost and all of a sudden he's a small welterweight. I remember how many people thought Cotto was going to crush Margarito.

Both are warriors for stepping into the squared circle. But, you got to out of your mind if you think Cotto showed more huevos, more heart then Vargas. Vargas on that night showed to be the ultimate never say die warriror. And find it disrespectfull to say Cotto quiting in the Margarito fight is on par with Vargas performance. Any one who doesn't vote for Fernando is out of there fucken mind. And don't talk size when we're talking about Trinidad. Trinidad wanted Norris and a jump to 154 after Troy Waters but King held out for Delahoya. Trinidad was a big welterweight. Again, Fernando by far and miles showed more heart and huevos then Cotto. Thats just the way it was! Can't deny the truth.

Wow An Article in which Cotto is Compared to Vargas: I think I predicted this: well.. thats not for sure. .until he fights again .. we see the results... and then you can be RIGHT OR WRONG.. until that.. prediceme el bicho ... tito boxeo...tu roncaera no mete cabras!! :boxing: