double standards!!

taylor beat hopkins 2x pavlik beat taylor 2x interesting pavlik vs hopkins pavlik by KO

when jermaine taylor beat hopkins no one used his age as an excuse but when the british fighter beats a still great hopkins people say that hopkins was old and finished when he fought joe,you could also apply that pavlik, joes 37 yet pavliks still the young buck so why arent ya'll(as you say)criticising the ghost????umhhhh funny that.... isnt it strange how now the best heavyweights are white the division is now called a joke....klitchko couldnt lick ali,tyson,lewis etc boot's let alone go a round with them,yet a good looking british "brother" and a cruiserweight hints at stepping up hes suddenly the saviour of the division with a "transatlantic fanbase " yet again ummhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! and finally i went to see jay-z at glastonbury(i was just about the only one who did)and get no credit for my fortitiude/perseverance/and willingness to embrace a supposed culture/lifestyle(hiphop) and open my mind to mainstream commercialism and media influenced corporate america unsubtlely telling me through the means of this supposed art form how to gesticulate/dress and shout!!i must say it had a certain effect on my choice in headress and sneakers/trainers!!! i currently now reside at her majestys pleasure wormwood scrubs..... :rofl: http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r177/jaststewart/roflbotulpnjb1.jpg :rofl: This thread failed!:rofl:

Sarcasm. We are referring to the idiot threadstarters dumbass thread. Check out my signature link. Sarcasm...... In that case then just ignore me haha. I've not seen these threads you're talking about. I try to steer clear of all the bullshit posted daily on this site.

Vitali is a top ten all time Heayweight you dumb yank.His potential was immense and his injuries kept him from being the number one all time great.If it wasn't for his delicate skin the man would of beat Lewis into retirement instead scaring him into it. Well that was his downfall then wasn't it you tit. Delicate skin!! haha. Did Ricky Hatton have delicate skin aswell? Im gonna copy and paste your post and change a few words to show you how fucking idiotic you are... "Roy Jones is a top ten all time great you dumb yank.His potential was immense and his chin kept him from being the number one all time great. If it wasn't for his delicate jaw the man would of retired unbeaten." You can make excuses for anybody. Maybe Vernon Forest could have been the best? His potential was immense. If only he didn't injure his shoulder. Point is... Vitali IS NOT and NEVER will be a top 10 all time heavyweight.

Back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark? He will always be marky mark! Mistakes like that never leave u his just gotten rid of the funky bunch over time thats it

He was welcomed at the marky mark reunion Back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark?

You also think Vitali Klit is a top 10 all time great heavyweight. Nuff said. Haha. Is that true? I'm not denying Joe is good, but if he would have fought Hopkins in 2005 instead of 2008 he would of lost, simple as that.

are you blaming the hip hop for favoritism and double standards favoring black fighters. and when u made attempte to embrace hip hop you werent welcomed or celebrated? He was welcomed at the marky mark reunion

Shit, watch the Winky fight. Both of those guys aged 10 years in the ring, right before our eyes. I've seen it. Yeah that was probably the major turning point when you could really see the difference.

me neither are you blaming the hip hop for favoritism and double standards favoring black fighters. and when u made attempt to embrace hip hop you werent welcomed or celebrated?

Hopkins has slowed down ALOT since the Taylor fight. Watch the 2 Taylor fights then watch the Calzaghe fight. He's twice as slow and throws half as many punches. If Bernard would have fought Joe around the same time he fought Taylor he would have won. Shit, watch the Winky fight. Both of those guys aged 10 years in the ring, right before our eyes.

I just think Joe at his best (Lacy, Kessler) wouldn't beat Hopkins at his best (Taylor, Trinidad, Tarver). Joe has come in to his own over the past two years where as Bernard has slowed down dramatically. It pointless arguing because neither of us can ever be proven to be right. It's just my opinion on the matter.i do.........

i dont get the jay-z reference me neither

Well BHop was still the man at MW at the time plus he was much fresher. He has slowed down significantly since then.

what makes you think the same couldnt be applied to calzaghe,joe was far from his best that night that i can say,hopkins looked the same old same old to me!! I just think Joe at his best (Lacy, Kessler) wouldn't beat Hopkins at his best (Taylor, Trinidad, Tarver). Joe has come in to his own over the past two years where as Bernard has slowed down dramatically. It pointless arguing because neither of us can ever be proven to be right. It's just my opinion on the matter.

i dont get the jay-z reference

Hopkins has slowed down ALOT since the Taylor fight. Watch the 2 Taylor fights then watch the Calzaghe fight. He's twice as slow and throws half as many punches. If Bernard would have fought Joe around the same time he fought Taylor he would have won. What this cunt said :luvbed:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202936

Hopkins has slowed down ALOT since the Taylor fight. Watch the 2 Taylor fights then watch the Calzaghe fight. He's twice as slow and throws half as many punches. If Bernard would have fought Joe around the same time he fought Taylor he would have won. What he said.

Hopkins has slowed down ALOT since the Taylor fight. Watch the 2 Taylor fights then watch the Calzaghe fight. He's twice as slow and throws half as many punches. If Bernard would have fought Joe around the same time he fought Taylor he would have won. what makes you think the same couldnt be applied to calzaghe,joe was far from his best that night that i can say,hopkins looked the same old same old to me!!