Which of these would be included in the 50 greatest fighters?

Calzaghe of course. Pacman is a bum who always loses. :rofl::rofl::rofl: I'd have to go with Manny. No Joe hate......

Pacman.........

That's an easy one, if Calzaghe takes Roy, he takes the spot. If Manny takes DLH, he might also, but he has a long career in front of him. if cal beat roy then ill put him in top 50 but i had a choice of one i put pac before anyone else

Pac has showed us that he can beat Mexican style boxers. Basically, fighters that come at you. Joe Calzaghe has proven that he can win against any style. I'm not so much of a Calzaghe fan but Pac needs to fight a pure boxer. Calzaghe will probably have enough in him to fight Pavlik, Chad or w/e so we don't know yet. For all we know. Pac might not be the same after DLH K.O's him You are right and all the things you mention must be taken into account. Although Pac did get a win (whether it actually was one or not) over a master boxer in JMM, so that nulifies your point about only winning against aggressive guys.

Extremely tough. They are both really on a level for mine. Calzaghe has it over Pac in a few areas such as skill, dominance, accomplishments and longevity but at this point Pac has a fair advantage over Joe in terms of level of competition faced. Right now I might give a slight edge to Calzaghe but I have a feeling that by the time the two are done Pacquiao will be considered the greater of the two. Both will be alltime top 50 fighters IMO.

I like Pacman really, I was just pretending. I still think JC is the better of the two though. okay, can't argue with an opinion.

That's an easy one, if Calzaghe takes Roy, he takes the spot. If Manny takes DLH, he might also, but he has a long career in front of him.

I like Pacman really, I was just pretending. I still think JC is the better of the two though. If Joe's to be greater than Pacman, he'd have to at least KO Pavlik.

Joe is a bum who always wins. :rofl: I like Pacman really, I was just pretending. I still think JC is the better of the two though.

i didn't know abadger had two handles:boxing:

Pacman.... I guess even if Pac lost to Oscar in embarrassing fashion on Dec 6, he'd still edge Calzaghe.:rofl:

Pacman....

joe will never be even considered in the top 50 greatest so pac easy

Calzaghe of course. Pacman is a bum who always loses.

Pac gets the nod over Joe if only one can get get it. That's the point of the thread.

PacMan, no contest.

Pac gets the nod over Joe if only one can get get it.